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CaroG1282 wrote:I have watched her KatChats, and to my recollection she has not mentioned anything that we were asking about. So yeah.

She seems like a nice girl and I too started watching her because of her Naked 3 tutorials (the best ones out there IMO), but she just seems really one-dimensional. For someone so young I feel like she should have more going on than just YouTube and her husband. But that's just my opinion.
She has mentioned about where she's from, her middle school and high school in KatChats. I guess you could ask her a question about college the next time she plans a Q&A. She has mentioned that its hard for her to keep a job because of Danny's deployment. YT and Danny are two things she loves, but there's obviously more to her life than what we see for some 20minutes in a video... She recently created a lipstick so maybe she'll slowly start having her own makeup as well
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I love Kathleen and I was so relieved that in her November Favorites video she didn't mention her colourpop products (the ones she created). I'm sick of gurus who shove their products that they made in your faces relentlessly and I was holding my breath the whole video thinking she would bring it up and was honestly really happy that she didn't.

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I just recently discovered her on Youtube because of her ELF hauls, which are very useful to me because ELF is the main makeup brand that I use.

I feel like a lot of popular Youtube gurus don't review ELF at all because they are "above" that brand or something, but ELF, despite its price point, actually have a lot of good stuff. I'm glad that Kathleen reviews ELF, and it's also one of the reasons why I'm rediscovering emilynoel83. I love that Emily, despite having made close to 1000 videos, still showcases ELF products every now and then.

I don't know if Kathleen's accent is put on or not, but I honestly like it a lot. I'm from California, and my husband is Mexican, and her accent actually reminds of people I used to hang out with back home; even though I know that she's Cuban.

She appears to be very mature beyond her age and I like that she doesn't air her dirty laundry online. For example, I really liked that she didn't go into details about her parents' divorce or the extent of her dad's injuries after the accident in her anxiety video. I feel like that's very respectful. She just mentioned that those were two very traumatic experiences that triggered her anxiety and for the most part kept the chat about herself.

I don't really care to know if she has any higher academic plans or anything more about her personal life than she cares to share. I like that she keeps her professional life on Youtube separate from her personal life (for the most part).

As for her actual tutorials, I suppose they are kind of one-note, but I actually enjoy her unboxing videos, haul videos, and KatChats more because I kinda just like listening to her talk and her mannerisms, haha.

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I'm going to post part of a discussion being held with regards to Kathleen in CoffeeBreakwithDani's thread. Kath doesn't have a thread in the rant section - so I'm curious to hear what you guys think.
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ihatesnobbyyters wrote: I like her too, but as far as her commenting back to her subscribers, that's one reason I dislike her. I've commented on many of her videos and she replies to pretty much everyone else that commented at the same time but not to me. And I'm talking every single time. So I just don't even bother anymore.
YES!! I was just going to say this. She is nice, but honestly she never connects with her subbies. Its not just a recent thing that she has more subs either, she literally ignores most of her subs. She also spams the hell out of a lot of bigger YouTubers comments. She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel. I like Kathleen, but as humble as she acts and as "grateful" as she says she is to her subs, she sure doesn't seem to like connecting with them much......I even told her that we share the same anniversary date, several times, and still nothing. Several people have complained about it too so its not like she just has so many subs she can't keep up. She was like this even when she had a few thousand.
I actually unsubscribed to her for that very reason. I'm so glad someone finally acknowledged this. Even back when she had a measly 5000 subs, I never noticed her answering comments. She just complains when people leave hate about her relationship with her husband because he looks older than her.

She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel.

^ I need to see that. That's probably how she got popular so fast. I remember back when she did collabs with AlisonLovesJB and had her name dropped in videos by MissBel01xox (Belinda Selene).
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socialight wrote:
WhisperingSoul wrote:
ihatesnobbyyters wrote: I like her too, but as far as her commenting back to her subscribers, that's one reason I dislike her. I've commented on many of her videos and she replies to pretty much everyone else that commented at the same time but not to me. And I'm talking every single time. So I just don't even bother anymore.
YES!! I was just going to say this. She is nice, but honestly she never connects with her subbies. Its not just a recent thing that she has more subs either, she literally ignores most of her subs. She also spams the hell out of a lot of bigger YouTubers comments. She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel. I like Kathleen, but as humble as she acts and as "grateful" as she says she is to her subs, she sure doesn't seem to like connecting with them much......I even told her that we share the same anniversary date, several times, and still nothing. Several people have complained about it too so its not like she just has so many subs she can't keep up. She was like this even when she had a few thousand.
I actually unsubscribed to her for that very reason. I'm so glad someone finally acknowledged this. Even back when she had a measly 5000 subs, I never noticed her answering comments. She just complains when people leave hate about her relationship with her husband because he looks older than her.

She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel.

^ I need to see that. That's probably how she got popular so fast. I remember back when she did collabs with AlisonLovesJB and had her name dropped in videos by MissBel01xox (Belinda Selene).
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Hehehe, I go to her for tutorials and recommendations, I'm not looking to make a best friend (coz that would be ridiculous) or share some emotional connection with. For example, my birthday coincides with the date her lippie stix released (26/11) but I really didn't bother sharing that tidbit because, well, I couldn't be bothered. I would never unsubscribe someone whom I'm learning so much from just because they don't answer to my comment, but maybe that's just me. Her skills are what matters more to me.

As for answering comments, whenever she releases a video, I always scroll down to see the comments and literally every one of them is answered. Probably when people comment a day or two after the video she doesn't reply? I can provide screencaps of her comments if anyone is interested. Its unfortunate that all comments don't get replied to though. Wish there was a way out there :(

I do follow a lot a bigger YTers and the only one that Kathleen left a comment on just ONCE was Jaclyn Hill. I really don't think her popularity is due to the reason that she comments on bigger blogger's channels. She is talented and grounded, uses a lot of drugstore products and has a lot of variety in the tutorials she does....as of now. I also find her techniques easy to follow and she doesn't look ridiculous when she does her highlight and contour routine. She mentions the YTers she follows and watches all the time in her videos, that's why I feel she genuinely likes them and she's not just using them for popularity.

Honestly, she's a breathe of fresh her from the so-called "gurus" on Yt and that's why she's getting so popular.
(hope she still stays this sweet and grounded)

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I love her

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tired_of_bs wrote:I would never unsubscribe someone whom I'm learning so much from just because they don't answer to my comment, but maybe that's just me. Her skills are what matters more to me.

Honestly, she's a breathe of fresh her from the so-called "gurus" on Yt and that's why she's getting so popular.
(hope she still stays this sweet and grounded)
I agree 100%. She has replied to my comments in the past, and tbh I see her commenting back to subscribers much more often than other youtubers. I get that this site is for complaining, but honestly let's not dig up reasons to trash someone when there aren't any. Kat is probably one of my favorite gurus at the moment, she's just so genuine and sweet and she has a really fresh take on makeup. Let's appreciate that because it's hard to find these days despite the abundance of "beauty gurus/experts".
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Waldorfdarling wrote:
tired_of_bs wrote:I would never unsubscribe someone whom I'm learning so much from just because they don't answer to my comment, but maybe that's just me. Her skills are what matters more to me.

Honestly, she's a breathe of fresh her from the so-called "gurus" on Yt and that's why she's getting so popular.
(hope she still stays this sweet and grounded)
I agree 100%. She has replied to my comments in the past, and tbh I see her commenting back to subscribers much more often than other youtubers. I get that this site is for complaining, but honestly let's not dig up reasons to trash someone when there aren't any. Kat is probably one of my favorite gurus at the moment, she's just so genuine and sweet and she has a really fresh take on makeup. Let's appreciate that because it's hard to find these days despite the abundance of "beauty gurus/experts".
Yeah, I always see that she's replied back to comments on YT. Probably not Insta, but definitely on YT. And I feel that she does indeed connect with her followers. That's why she has a "Kat Chats" series where she shares parts of her life. Honestly, I've seen people come up with more ridiculous reasons for thrashing people. One person on this forum complained about her forehead. :? :?

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socialight wrote:I'm going to post part of a discussion being held with regards to Kathleen in CoffeeBreakwithDani's thread. Kath doesn't have a thread in the rant section - so I'm curious to hear what you guys think.

YES!! I was just going to say this. She is nice, but honestly she never connects with her subbies. Its not just a recent thing that she has more subs either, she literally ignores most of her subs. She also spams the hell out of a lot of bigger YouTubers comments. She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel. I like Kathleen, but as humble as she acts and as "grateful" as she says she is to her subs, she sure doesn't seem to like connecting with them much......I even told her that we share the same anniversary date, several times, and still nothing. Several people have complained about it too so its not like she just has so many subs she can't keep up. She was like this even when she had a few thousand.
I'm genuinely confused as to why you think she should care that you have the same anniversary as hers.

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matte wrote:
socialight wrote:I'm going to post part of a discussion being held with regards to Kathleen in CoffeeBreakwithDani's thread. Kath doesn't have a thread in the rant section - so I'm curious to hear what you guys think.

YES!! I was just going to say this. She is nice, but honestly she never connects with her subbies. Its not just a recent thing that she has more subs either, she literally ignores most of her subs. She also spams the hell out of a lot of bigger YouTubers comments. She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel. I like Kathleen, but as humble as she acts and as "grateful" as she says she is to her subs, she sure doesn't seem to like connecting with them much......I even told her that we share the same anniversary date, several times, and still nothing. Several people have complained about it too so its not like she just has so many subs she can't keep up. She was like this even when she had a few thousand.
I'm genuinely confused as to why you think she should care that you have the same anniversary as hers.
You missquoted me. WhisperingSoul wrote the thing about the anniversar, not me.

I just copied critics on Kathleen from Dani's thread. Don't shoot the messenger She doesn't have a rant thread so there isn't any where else to write this stuff.

From personal experience, she has never answered any of my comments and I always saw lot's of unanswered praise and questions in her videos back when she started and way way less subscribers. I got bored of her videos and got a uppity vibe from her.

There's no reason for people in this thread to be devasted that there are people who are not keen on kathleen. It's not the end of the world.

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I liked how in her MUG Foiled Eyeshadows review she straight-up told us she's affiliated with MUG and that she gets a small commission if her viewers place an order on MUG through her link. That was the first time I've ever heard a youtuber being so upfront and transparent with their subscribers. :respekt:

It's important that viewers, especially young ones with little to no experience in marketing and advertisement tactics are fully informed about those things, because lately more and more gurus have been shady with their disclaimers. "Some affiliate links may be used above" (*cough Essiebutton cough*) is just so sneaky because it's like they're saying to your face "I may or may not be getting paid for some of that shiz I pretended to looove in this video but you'll never know which ones. Ha!"
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socialight wrote:
matte wrote:
socialight wrote:I'm going to post part of a discussion being held with regards to Kathleen in CoffeeBreakwithDani's thread. Kath doesn't have a thread in the rant section - so I'm curious to hear what you guys think.

YES!! I was just going to say this. She is nice, but honestly she never connects with her subbies. Its not just a recent thing that she has more subs either, she literally ignores most of her subs. She also spams the hell out of a lot of bigger YouTubers comments. She doesn't spam her channel or anything, but she makes sure to comment on almost every single bigger YouTubers channel. I like Kathleen, but as humble as she acts and as "grateful" as she says she is to her subs, she sure doesn't seem to like connecting with them much......I even told her that we share the same anniversary date, several times, and still nothing. Several people have complained about it too so its not like she just has so many subs she can't keep up. She was like this even when she had a few thousand.
I'm genuinely confused as to why you think she should care that you have the same anniversary as hers.
You missquoted me. WhisperingSoul wrote the thing about the anniversar, not me.

I just copied critics on Kathleen from Dani's thread. Don't shoot the messenger She doesn't have a rant thread so there isn't any where else to write this stuff.

From personal experience, she has never answered any of my comments and I always saw lot's of unanswered praise and questions in her videos back when she started and way way less subscribers. I got bored of her videos and got a uppity vibe from her.

There's no reason for people in this thread to be devasted that there are people who are not keen on kathleen. It's not the end of the world.
When there's a huge, sloppy jumble of quotations, misquoting might happen. Oh well. But my point still stands: Youtubers don't owe anyone anything except transparency when they're selling shit. I will never understand why people expect to connect on a personal level with a stranger who posts makeup videos.

Also, why don't you (or a mod, or however that works) start a thread in the trash section about Kathleen? I'm neutral on Kathleen--seems like a nice enough girl and has some good tutorials, although I personally don't care for her Kat Chats videos--but it's really funny that you're always bitching that people like her or defend her given the point of this thread. :tu:

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Thus comment made me lol.
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Japanlover666 wrote:Thus comment made me lol.
OMG, are these people for real? :roll:

I will say that while it's nice when a YTer responds to a comment, to EXPECT or DEMAND a response and then act whiny and passive-aggressive when you don't receive one is ridiculous. I hope people who leave comments like that are pretty young. (Do any gurus send thank yous to everyone who buys their merch? I can't imagine Jaclyn Hill or Bunny doing that unless it was a form email or generic thank you to everyone in a video or on Twitter.)

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matte, you made a point I should have made a long time ago!!
sociallight, you really dislike Kathleen and through all your posts you've just tried to turn people against her. That ain't gonna happen now.
And this is a Rave forum, take your complaints to the Trash section

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For the most part I like her, but there's something that's been bothering me about her tutorials. She never seems to apply concealer on the inner corners of her eyes. And a pet peeve of mine that I've seen her and other Youtubers do is apply their inner corner highlight without applying concealer first. Where you can see the bluey-purple shadows underneath shimmery eyeshadow. Am I making sense? Idk its really stupid and insignificant but it bothers me for some reason. :|

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(This is after she's applied concealer.)

* and I would write this in her trash thread except she doesn't have one and I don't know how to make one

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^^ someone made a trash thread so I'll be moving this post there and any moderators are free the delete the post from this thread

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^ we can delete our own posts, no need to call mods for it.

haha, people are gonna bitch about her then? LOL

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This may be a weird reason to love her, but as a Cuban teenager living in Miami, it's just so great to see someone that represents almost everything you grew up with/live with. Just knowing she was Cuban and having that connection, and then seeing her beautiful tutorials and stuff I'm hooked. I really love the way she presents herself in videos, regardless of whether she replies to comments or not (she seems to reply to at least some!), and I think that while she is with Danny, other than YT she doesn't do that much else because she is milking the time she has with him, being without your lover/best friend for 6 mo. at a time must be tough. Overall, she's such a breath of fresh air that I'm really scared for the moment she starts gaining a LOT of viewers/subscribers and becomes a sell-out. Hopefully she doesn't, but you never know with youtube. :D

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She is one of my favorite..I hope the fame doesn't go to her head.

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