No. The only difficult thing about breaking a habit (one that is not physically addictive) is your mentality. People may think they have the desire to do something. But if the only thing stopping them is themselves then they obviously don't want it enough. They don't truly want it. If someone truly decided in their mind that they really want to break a habit then they will. For some people it may take some time for them to really reach that decision even though they think they have. So it may become a process for them. But that is because they have not truly decided that is what they really want enough to actually do it. If you really reach that decision in your mind then it is easy.CinnamonShe wrote:That's a pat answer and untrue. It might be easy for some people to change. I've known smokers who desperately want to quit. Many have made solid attempts and then resumed the habit. It's not easy when those chemicals have been acting on one's brain for some time. It's the same with certain foods. Throw in emotional/psychological issues, and there's more to address. Not everyone has the fortitude to make an easy shift, even when the need or desire is there. It can be done, but it's not always easy or simple.no1partyanthem wrote:Totally agree. If someone really wants to make a change in their life then it will be easy. Eating meat is not physically addictive. If they had really set their minds to it would be easy to give up eating meat and they would feel better for it for whatever reason they decided to in the first place. Once you really make that decision for the right reasons for you and to do the moral thing then it would not be difficult. There's nothing difficult about it. If you are struggling to stop yourself from doing what you apparently want then you obviously just don't really want it. Otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for you. The same with people who say they want to exercise, stop eating junk food and lose weight or people who say they want to stop smoking. If they truly wanted to then it would be easy for them. Think about it. It is true.
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Emotional and physical needs/impulses are different though. You may be physically addicted to a substance like an illicit drug therefore you need to treat that physical urge/dependency when trying to detox compared to something that is simply a habit or emotional crutch such as always having a can of coke at 3pm or always having cheese with your baked potato and beans.daddyoh wrote:lol you clearly don't understand addiction in the slightest.
We vegans aren't some super race, ANY ONE can join this ethical stance you owe it to your conscience and just need the WILLPOWER that's it. Let go from your meat/dairy/animal by product consuming habits and do what's right

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I don't understand the discussion here. If you've easily transitioned into veganism, good for you. But it's pretty obvious that it isn't as easy to every single person. So just because you did it, it doesn't mean everybody will. I don't know but this seems like pretty basic knowledge to me.

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^^ Exactly. Anecdotes are not evidence.
As I said earlier, consider people who live in food deserts. A good amount of them live in poverty as well. Sure, Bite Sized Vegan and Happy Healthy Vegan and all them have bikes and shit, and say things like "See? You can do it too!" But it totally ignores the fact that not everyone is going to blow almost a thousands dollars on a bike with bills and rent due in a few weeks and kids to feed and put through school.
Not only that, but food plays a large role in many cultures, and it's asking for a lot for many people to give it up.
I'm personally making the transition to being a vegan after being an on and off vegetarian for years and it's fucking hard. There's a lot of things I can't make any more, and I'm spending a lot of money trying different recipes. On top of that, I live in DC proper, which is one of the most expensive cities in the US, and I'm a graduate student who doesn't make very much money. The whole experience is trial and error. You had your recipes you liked when you ate meat, and now you have to say goodbye to most of it.
Becoming a vegan for some people also means losing friends and family. Not all people can or will drop people they love like that for the sake of a lifestyle.
You may not be a "superhuman" but you're incredibly lucky to have the support (or not have to worry about it) and resources you allow you to do so. For a lot of people it's not nearly as easy as willpower.
As I said earlier, consider people who live in food deserts. A good amount of them live in poverty as well. Sure, Bite Sized Vegan and Happy Healthy Vegan and all them have bikes and shit, and say things like "See? You can do it too!" But it totally ignores the fact that not everyone is going to blow almost a thousands dollars on a bike with bills and rent due in a few weeks and kids to feed and put through school.
Not only that, but food plays a large role in many cultures, and it's asking for a lot for many people to give it up.
I'm personally making the transition to being a vegan after being an on and off vegetarian for years and it's fucking hard. There's a lot of things I can't make any more, and I'm spending a lot of money trying different recipes. On top of that, I live in DC proper, which is one of the most expensive cities in the US, and I'm a graduate student who doesn't make very much money. The whole experience is trial and error. You had your recipes you liked when you ate meat, and now you have to say goodbye to most of it.
Becoming a vegan for some people also means losing friends and family. Not all people can or will drop people they love like that for the sake of a lifestyle.
You may not be a "superhuman" but you're incredibly lucky to have the support (or not have to worry about it) and resources you allow you to do so. For a lot of people it's not nearly as easy as willpower.
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^ Why the hell would you have to lose friends/family? And if someone is willing to cut ties with you over not eating meat maybe they are too intolerant to be in your life anyway, good riddance to be honest.
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I definitely agree you should surround yourself with certain people. Most people won't explicity "I can't associate with you because you don't eat meat." But some people do look down upon others for not doing so, in the same way some vegans look down upon meat eaters. They likely will think that you believe you're better than them. You'd be surprised how many of my friends would say "I have more respect for so-and-so after them talking about being vegan." When I would ask what that meant- it was that they weren't preachy. They automatically assumed that this person was a stereotypical vegan, and had reservations about being around them.
Some people will though. Look back on all the awful things your friends may have done to other people and you overlooked it or took their side because they were friend. Consider if it eventually happened to you. You might get upset at first, but eventually go back to being their friend. I have no problem dropping friends. In fact, in the past year alone, I cut a lot of people out because they turned out to be toxic people. But sometimes that mentality makes you lonely, and others might be afraid to come around you if you appear so cold.
As for family, my parents and cousin were the only ones who supported me in my decision. My other family members made fun of me and my grandmother made passive aggressive comments about me denying her hospitality every time I visited her. Cutting out family members isn't exactly easy for a lot of people, depending upon their values and upbringing. Because my grandma is who she is, if I never spoke to her again, she would make sure to tell everyone who would listen I'm a horrible person and my ego won't let that happen. Although I don't have the best relationship with my family, they raised me and they worked really fucking hard so I didn't have to live the way they did when they were my age. To cut them out would be selfish, I feel.
People aren't going to automatically drop you. It's not that simple. But an important step in becoming a vegan is getting the support of your friends and family. The point I was trying to make it that not everyone will get 100% support from their friends, and it makes the transition much harder.
Some people will though. Look back on all the awful things your friends may have done to other people and you overlooked it or took their side because they were friend. Consider if it eventually happened to you. You might get upset at first, but eventually go back to being their friend. I have no problem dropping friends. In fact, in the past year alone, I cut a lot of people out because they turned out to be toxic people. But sometimes that mentality makes you lonely, and others might be afraid to come around you if you appear so cold.
As for family, my parents and cousin were the only ones who supported me in my decision. My other family members made fun of me and my grandmother made passive aggressive comments about me denying her hospitality every time I visited her. Cutting out family members isn't exactly easy for a lot of people, depending upon their values and upbringing. Because my grandma is who she is, if I never spoke to her again, she would make sure to tell everyone who would listen I'm a horrible person and my ego won't let that happen. Although I don't have the best relationship with my family, they raised me and they worked really fucking hard so I didn't have to live the way they did when they were my age. To cut them out would be selfish, I feel.
People aren't going to automatically drop you. It's not that simple. But an important step in becoming a vegan is getting the support of your friends and family. The point I was trying to make it that not everyone will get 100% support from their friends, and it makes the transition much harder.
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See I don't take sides with anyone because they're my friend, I side with who I agree with lol, I don't have that loyalty to a fault gene, never have, it's just not in me. And I feel the same about family, I have no default loyalty to someone just because we share dna, I find the whole "blood is thicker than water" concept ridiculous. If we have a good relationship, great, if we don't, oh well we don't have to force it just because we're related.
But I do think people get defensive when someone else says they're vegan because they know on some level what their meat consumption entails, and no one wants to be reminded of the way they get that food. It says more about the person judging someone for not eating meat than the person who isn't doing it. Like, if someone simply calling themselves vegan puts you into defensive mode it might be time for some self reflection lol.
But I do think people get defensive when someone else says they're vegan because they know on some level what their meat consumption entails, and no one wants to be reminded of the way they get that food. It says more about the person judging someone for not eating meat than the person who isn't doing it. Like, if someone simply calling themselves vegan puts you into defensive mode it might be time for some self reflection lol.
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Honestly she is disgusting. She leeches on to beauty guru youtubers because she doesn't have any other topics to discuss and then covers them as "bring freaking awareness" being your awareness some where else dog.
It's not that I hate her but she makes vegans look bad. No awful. No one gives 2 shits about her anyways so what the heck and she is only making these videos because she has no talent. She can only eat so many bananas but that's it. And she thinks it works for everyone. Well it doesn't obviously
So many videos to bash others is 1) cyber bullying 2) quick cash since the subs of the beauty YouTuber will give more attention to videos
Disgusting. Worse than a meat eater
It's not that I hate her but she makes vegans look bad. No awful. No one gives 2 shits about her anyways so what the heck and she is only making these videos because she has no talent. She can only eat so many bananas but that's it. And she thinks it works for everyone. Well it doesn't obviously

So many videos to bash others is 1) cyber bullying 2) quick cash since the subs of the beauty YouTuber will give more attention to videos
Disgusting. Worse than a meat eater
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Freelee is the definition of a preachy pushy vegan, she judges ANYONE who isn't vegan or isn't a Rawtil4 vegan. She put up a video of her reacting to Sia's carpool karaoke video just because Sia is vegan. She likes people only based on the facts whether their vegan or not. Now that's a problem. A serious one.
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Answer is nuts. Peanutbutter is amazing source of protein. So are legumens, like beans.
I am vegan and I get my protein and even more and I have like 2600 calories. Just eat butter, hummus and enjoy.
Simple breakfast like oatmeal with chia, goij, nuts, berries, banana+ few ricecakes with peanutbutter and banana slices are half of the needed calories and protein
I am vegan and I get my protein and even more and I have like 2600 calories. Just eat butter, hummus and enjoy.
Simple breakfast like oatmeal with chia, goij, nuts, berries, banana+ few ricecakes with peanutbutter and banana slices are half of the needed calories and protein

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Yall are rude af.
"People eat what they want, do what tthey want. Its their choice. They do not need to hear her rant"
What about animals? Dont they deserve a choice? Its up do you if you want to go running or read a book, but if your choice is to kill and abuse another living being, its not only about you anymore. Its about other side too. Or they do not deserve to be heard bc they we do not understand their language?
Freelee may be over the top but if her style turns atleast one person into vegan, its a huge win.
There are lot of people who are uneducated and do not know how animals are threated. She helps to open some eyes and I am sure animals are thankful that people like her stand up for them, even if people hate her for it.
Since when caring about animals become a crime.
"People eat what they want, do what tthey want. Its their choice. They do not need to hear her rant"
What about animals? Dont they deserve a choice? Its up do you if you want to go running or read a book, but if your choice is to kill and abuse another living being, its not only about you anymore. Its about other side too. Or they do not deserve to be heard bc they we do not understand their language?
Freelee may be over the top but if her style turns atleast one person into vegan, its a huge win.
There are lot of people who are uneducated and do not know how animals are threated. She helps to open some eyes and I am sure animals are thankful that people like her stand up for them, even if people hate her for it.
Since when caring about animals become a crime.
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Agreed. My problem with her is though, that she prefers just to bash celebrities and other Youtubers instead of providing educational content. I find BiteSizeVegans approach to spreading the message way more effective. I just like her better. I find Freelee way too arrogant.CrystallineKitty wrote:ggeyeliner wrote:Yall are rude af.
"People eat what they want, do what tthey want. Its their choice. They do not need to hear her rant"
What about animals? Dont they deserve a choice? Its up do you if you want to go running or read a book, but if your choice is to kill and abuse another living being, its not only about you anymore. Its about other side too. Or they do not deserve to be heard bc they we do not understand their language?
Freelee may be over the top but if her style turns atleast one person into vegan, its a huge win.
There are lot of people who are uneducated and do not know how animals are threated. She helps to open some eyes and I am sure animals are thankful that people like her stand up for them, even if people hate her for it.
Since when caring about animals become a crime.
I agree with this. I understand her persistent, anger and disgust because it is a very serious issue that people turn a blind eye to. We are destroying our bodies, environment and other living beings. I can understand why she goes to desperate measures to inform people.
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It's actually the contrary, people are turning away from veganism BECAUSE they don't want to be associated to her. Also she's making veganism look very hard, a lot of people do really think you need to be raw till 4 to be vegan....ggeyeliner wrote:Freelee may be over the top but if her style turns atleast one person into vegan, its a huge win.
And, also, make people feel guilty and being total ass with them does not work, they actually turning away from you when you do that....
So, no, i disagree.
And the more i see her videos, the more i think she don't give a damn about animals anymore, it's all about being skinny, bullying people, dramas blablabla...... She's a joke and she's doing no justice for animal. None. And she got an eating disorder too, her diet is fucked up because when she says "i'm forcing myself to drink this smoothie till i'm sick and i'm used to" there's a problem.
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^ I've never heard of anyone who was vegan and stopped because they didn't want to be associated with Freelee. I do see people say they want to be vegan but Freelee turns them off but I find that to be a cop out anyway, if you really wanted to be vegan one annoying person wouldn't stop you, that's ridiculous and just an excuse.
And if people think there is only one way to do veganism that's on them, there are plenty of other youtubers and a ton of information out there, it's up to them to do their research.
And if people think there is only one way to do veganism that's on them, there are plenty of other youtubers and a ton of information out there, it's up to them to do their research.
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I agree that someone who already is, or wants to be a vegan will find a different role model if Freelea puts them off. But it happens all the time that people are introduced to veganism by a person they are interested in, say a youtuber or blogger, and if they like and admire that person they may decide to give a vegan diet a try just because of this person. Someone like Freelea, on the other hand, is horrible enough to repel many people and give vegans a bad name. I know some people actually find Freelea inspiring but I think to most people she is a turn off because she is so vindictive and militant. It's a shame because she has a large following and could do much more for the cause. But ironically she does more damage than good.Chloe_Bean wrote:^ I've never heard of anyone who was vegan and stopped because they didn't want to be associated with Freelee. I do see people say they want to be vegan but Freelee turns them off but I find that to be a cop out anyway, if you really wanted to be vegan one annoying person wouldn't stop you, that's ridiculous and just an excuse.
And if people think there is only one way to do veganism that's on them, there are plenty of other youtubers and a ton of information out there, it's up to them to do their research.
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Don't get met wrong (i know my English is bad) i didnt talk about people who are aldready vegan, i hope they're vegan for animals first and not for someone else ! I was talking about people who don't know about veganism and curious people. Freelee is very popular on youtube and her bullying/bashing videos on stars and other (vegan !) youtubers can definitely be a turn off, and it's very sad actually....Chloe_Bean wrote:^ I've never heard of anyone who was vegan and stopped because they didn't want to be associated with Freelee.
Usually, people who started to be vegan thanks to Freelee just unsubscribe from her if they don't like her anymore. Stoping to be vegan just because Freelee annoys you would be the dumbest idea ever !
But you got a lot more great vegan Youtubers who dont have that much negative, promote anything else but veganism are not that popular because they dont make bad buzz, that's such a pity

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So Casey Ho is trying to shut down freelee's channel. Hate both of them, but it shows how fragile Ho's business is when Freelee can get people to turn away from her 

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Is Freelee over-exaggerating over a copyright strike? As in...Cassey isn't directly trying to sabotage her channel? Because honestly...I don't see why Cassey would feel the need to take down Freelee's channel, she's one of the top 5 fitness bloggers in the world, has her own fitness clothing line...would she reeeallly want to waste time on Freelee ?
I'm thinking this is just an elaborate ploy on Freelee's part to generate more attention to her channel, what with this "freefreelee" hashtag.
If it is, what an all time low from Freelee.
I'm thinking this is just an elaborate ploy on Freelee's part to generate more attention to her channel, what with this "freefreelee" hashtag.
If it is, what an all time low from Freelee.