Sarah's Day: Fake Engagement to Boost Engagement - Part 12

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Post by Couch_Potato » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:53 am

Names_Ames wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:42 am
Very basic question... but WHY has she got into this mess? I don’t believe she actually is stupid enough to scam everyone... so is she just lazy/has shitty priorities? Did she lose interest in giving money to charity after she was praised for raising it? Just a bit baffled at her thought process.
Until she provides evidence of donations, it’s entirely possible that this might be a scam imo. I truly hope not but her actions are so concerning that it might be possible.
- We know she reads here and is likely aware that she was being reported to the ACCC. She confined to make no mention of donating. The first thing most people would do if they realised there were concerns would be to address it.
- Somehow something sparked a deadline of getting the donations completed today. She says she has made two donations but there is evidence. She has also not stated when the next two will be made.
- She promised 391k but now appears to be changing the terms and withholding money for GST. People donated in good faith that ALL their money would be provided to charity. She made the error and could afford this herself. Not addressing it and misrepresenting how much you are donating is a scam.

The overarching theme is that a person who stuffed up but still had honest intent would course correct much better than this. Her actions to date do not align with the honest person she says to be. It’s hard to say what the truth actually is and that’s why I’m hopeful that agencies with the powers to do so will be able to work out what exactly has happened.

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Re: Sarah's Day: Fake Engagement to Boost Engagement - Part 12

Post by 2xblended » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:05 am

Couch_Potato wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:53 am
Names_Ames wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:42 am
Very basic question... but WHY has she got into this mess? I don’t believe she actually is stupid enough to scam everyone... so is she just lazy/has shitty priorities? Did she lose interest in giving money to charity after she was praised for raising it? Just a bit baffled at her thought process.
Until she provides evidence of donations, it’s entirely possible that this might be a scam imo. I truly hope not but her actions are so concerning that it might be possible.
- We know she reads here and is likely aware that she was being reported to the ACCC. She confined to make no mention of donating. The first thing most people would do if they realised there were concerns would be to address it.
- Somehow something sparked a deadline of getting the donations completed today. She says she has made two donations but there is evidence. She has also not stated when the next two will be made.
- She promised 391k but now appears to be changing the terms and withholding money for GST. People donated in good faith that ALL their money would be provided to charity. She made the error and could afford this herself. Not addressing it and misrepresenting how much you are donating is a scam.

The overarching theme is that a person who stuffed up but still had honest intent would course correct much better than this. Her actions to date do not align with the honest person she says to be. It’s hard to say what the truth actually is and that’s why I’m hopeful that agencies with the powers to do so will be able to work out what exactly has happened.
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Sorry to keep quoting you but you're just so spot on with everything you say.

I'm really battling with whether or not her intention was to pocket the money or donate whenever it was convenient. I can see either one being true. The former because she has been scamming people for all these years, and the latter because she is so self-absorbed that she doesn't realise that in itself is wrong.
In the end, my gut tells me she was going to keep it all. Because her acting was so forced, her crocodile tears so obviously designed to garner attention, and her last story of the day being a message of love and praise instead of a receipt indicates that she still wants to portray herself as a victim, thereby deflecting any potential criticism of her lack of transparency over all this.

I need her to be cancelled. How can anyone trust her?

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Post by Firsttimeposter81 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:13 am

I don’t think she was ever going to keep the money for herself. I really believe she was always going to donate BUT I do believe she is trying to capitalise on this as much as she can. Maybe through keeping the funds in her bank for as long as she could so she gains interest? Who knows? Whatever she was doing by not donating the money ASAP it was purely for her gain. And that’s where it is disgusting. Like all you have to do is view Mitch Orvalls Instagram. He didn’t raise as much as Sarah but he kept his followers in the loop the whole time an en he posted receipts as soon as he donated.

Where.are.the.receipts.sarah

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Post by metamorphosis » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:15 am

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve drunk the kool aid but her stories looked like someone who is genuinely in over their head and wrapped up in the throws of procrastination (and whatever guilt that comes with that), and is overwhelmed with the stress of motherhood and this silly photo shoot, rather than someone faking tears to try and cover up some malicious scam.

I get that she should have managed the donation process better and sooner (maybe learn to ask for help?) but I don’t believe she’s a scammer. Just a silly little girl.

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Re: Sarah's Day: Fake Engagement to Boost Engagement - Part 12

Post by 2xblended » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:37 am

metamorphosis wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:15 am
I don’t know. Maybe I’ve drunk the kool aid but her stories looked like someone who is genuinely in over their head and wrapped up in the throws of procrastination (and whatever guilt that comes with that), and is overwhelmed with the stress of motherhood and this silly photo shoot, rather than someone faking tears to try and cover up some malicious scam.

I get that she should have managed the donation process better and sooner (maybe learn to ask for help?) but I don’t believe she’s a scammer. Just a silly little girl.
Even if this is the case, bearing in mind she reads here, I specifically posted various options she could use to get herself out of the hole she dug herself into. Including simply stating a date she would donate by.
Heck, this morning I gave her a word-for-word response about the bank issues with such a big transfer.
This didn't need to get this complicated.If she didn't know what to do, well, we told her what to say.
She is still not showing receipts. Once she shows those, everything will be okay. So long as she's playing victim and making excuses (I'll be in Byron) it creates a reasonable doubt.

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Post by Nae-Nae » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:40 am

metamorphosis wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:15 am
I don’t know. Maybe I’ve drunk the kool aid but her stories looked like someone who is genuinely in over their head and wrapped up in the throws of procrastination (and whatever guilt that comes with that), and is overwhelmed with the stress of motherhood and this silly photo shoot, rather than someone faking tears to try and cover up some malicious scam.

I get that she should have managed the donation process better and sooner (maybe learn to ask for help?) but I don’t believe she’s a scammer. Just a silly little girl.
Soz guys 3rd one today, I agree though I don’t think they were crocodile tears I think it all just caught up with her... but she needs to suck it up everyone has life stresses, and if she isn’t coping then she should do something about it... it really does my head in that she’s made this whole thing about herself and there are people who have to rebuild their entire lives from scratch, that was the whole point of doing a good thing, she didn’t need to jump on social media and cry that’s not what a professional does. You explain, I paid these 2 donations here are the receipts, unfortunately I haven’t had time to do the other 2 today but will get them done over the weekend and will post receipts later. Thanks for understanding guizzz. she made this mess for herself. Not saying it not okay to cry but time and place is important, I’d be embarrassed to cry on social media with brands that I work with seeing that, looks very unprofessional.

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Re: Sarah's Day: Fake Engagement to Boost Engagement - Part 12

Post by hrglss83 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:00 am

Nae-Nae wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:40 am
metamorphosis wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:15 am
I don’t know. Maybe I’ve drunk the kool aid but her stories looked like someone who is genuinely in over their head and wrapped up in the throws of procrastination (and whatever guilt that comes with that), and is overwhelmed with the stress of motherhood and this silly photo shoot, rather than someone faking tears to try and cover up some malicious scam.

I get that she should have managed the donation process better and sooner (maybe learn to ask for help?) but I don’t believe she’s a scammer. Just a silly little girl.
Soz guys 3rd one today, I agree though I don’t think they were crocodile tears I think it all just caught up with her... but she needs to suck it up everyone has life stresses, and if she isn’t coping then she should do something about it... it really does my head in that she’s made this whole thing about herself and there are people who have to rebuild their entire lives from scratch, that was the whole point of doing a good thing, she didn’t need to jump on social media and cry that’s not what a professional does. You explain, I paid these 2 donations here are the receipts, unfortunately I haven’t had time to do the other 2 today but will get them done over the weekend and will post receipts later. Thanks for understanding guizzz. she made this mess for herself. Not saying it not okay to cry but time and place is important, I’d be embarrassed to cry on social media with brands that I work with seeing that, looks very unprofessional.
I agree with you, even if we give her the benefit of the doubt, she's still making it about herself by posting these stories. (I personally do believe though that she was acting and it was very badly done)
If she was just really in over her head because of procrastination, etc. (I can totally relate trust me), it really does not help anyone to post those stories. Obviously she can cry, and I would too if I was in that position, but I wouldn't post it to Instagram. If I had people up my ass about possibly scamming people and taking too long to do what I'd promised, I would have a meltdown by myself and then post proof of why they're wrong or, if I didn't have any proof because they're actually kinda right, I would give them an action plan as to what I'm gonna do to fix this issue. But crying, blaming the bank in a way that doesn't add up AT ALL, claiming you did make 1 or 2 donations but not providing proof and reiterating how much of a good person you are is not the way to go. I can relate to feeling the urge to do that, but I think she needs to starting putting an extra step in between how she feels and what she posts on Instagram. You can do those things (blaming others, crying, saying how much of a good person you are) in your head / on your own, but if you choose to put that out to the public when people are already questioning your motives, you shouldn't be surprised if people think you're putting on a show.

Sorry if that made no sense I'm a little distracted at the moment ha

Edit: dang I knew I forgot to mention something; not only was she reiterating how much of a good person she is but she was saying that SHE just wanted to donate all this money. THIS IS NOT HER MONEY. And was we have now established, she is even deducting, what, 40k for taxes? She could pay this herself easily, didn't they just buy a 2.7 mil house and rip out a completely new kitchen? But she cannot pay the 40k in taxes herself so that the sum she promised to donate would actually be donated in full? Scummy.

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Post by milliebean » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:30 am

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Edit: dang I knew I forgot to mention something; not only was she reiterating how much of a good person she is but she was saying that SHE just wanted to donate all this money. THIS IS NOT HER MONEY. And was we have now established, she is even deducting, what, 40k for taxes? She could pay this herself easily, didn't they just buy a 2.7 mil house and rip out a completely new kitchen? But she cannot pay the 40k in taxes herself so that the sum she promised to donate would actually be donated in full? Scummy.
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THIS EXACTLY. Hi, hello, I’ve not posted here before but I just have to now. Sarah said 100% of proceeds. It’s still up on her posts and in comments. Every penny was to go for donations, but she’s dipping in to THEIR money so she doesn’t have to pay a tax bill. Just like everything else, on someone else’s dime. She CHOSE to spearhead this incentive herself and took every opportunity to put her name and face on it so everyone knows what she’s doing, and now she’s keeping $40k for herself for personal reasons. I call that fraud.

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Post by boobiemcbooberson » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:56 am

Wow I actually can’t believe this b*tch!!!!

Haven’t been on here for a few days and popped on today to check what’s happening and then had to go and watch her stories. Oh my god!!! She’s definitely in over her head! Whether she’s been contacted by the ACCC, the media, or those 800+ emails were all from people asking where the donations are, something has definitely rattled her.

Not sure why’s she’s playing the ‘woe is me’ card either, she’s had ample time to make the donations. She knew she had a shoot and product launch this month, so why has she put off donating so long - she obviously wasn’t planning on donating till Feb. She also DOESN'T WORK so why the hell has she put off going to the bank for so long and then has the god damn cheek to blame the bank!!! I can’t get over the nerve of her. Whinging that she can’t go for a walk because she’s so stressed about getting these donations done?! SHES HAD OVER A WEEK!!!

Then she’s acting all ‘poor Sezzy all she’s trying to do is do some good and donate money’ - acting like it’s HER money. It’s not her money, she’s not putting a cent into this - she’s not even donating the full promised amount because she doesn’t want to make up the difference in GST.

Also calling BS on the lady in the bank not taking her seriously and asking if she had the numbers wrong.

I genuinely think she was aiming to keep the money in her bank for a little while to gain some interest on it then donate it all.

Everything about her is shoddy!

Wow sorry for the word vomit, it probably makes zero sense! I’m just in absolute disbelief at her!!

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Post by spaghettistrap » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:59 am

If she is keeping the 40k for tax reasons, won't she be able to claim them back on her tax return because the money was donated?

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Post by sweetniblets » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:05 am

Hello friends. Not to change the subject, but I noticed something in Sarah’s screenshot she posted when complaining about her texts/emails (which, do we really believe she received 800+ ACTUAL emails in one day? Not just promos/social media notifications? Ha, ok.). ANYWAY, hidden behind her comment is the MyFitnessPal app. Now she hasn’t talked about this in a while, but I remember her always priding herself in never counting calories. Doesn’t quite add up now, does it?
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Post by Oldcatlady » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:16 am

Wow! I really can't get over that she has actually been caught. Question since I'm not Australian, what news outlets broke the story/news about Belle Gibson? Perhaps they can be contacted again about Sarah? I was thinking about trying to contact TMZ, but I don't know if they'd run a story about an influencer. Usually they break news about big name celebrities, which we all know Sarah is not (only in her mind). Either way, once the media gets word of this we should make sure it ends up on Reddit. They are savage when it comes to scams. Hi Sarah. Let us all introduce you to sweet, sweet karma.

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Post by Oldcatlady » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:21 am

Sorry for the double post, but what about the Daily Mail? They did a story on her $1 donation fiasco. Maybe they'd like to do a follow up? Also, E! News ran a story about Belle Gibson. Should I try contacting them as well? I think a lot of her followers are American teens, so they might watch it and get the full story that way? Just brainstorming who to contact to get media coverage of her scam.

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Post by TheGrumpyGuru » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:18 am

spaghettistrap wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:59 am
If she is keeping the 40k for tax reasons, won't she be able to claim them back on her tax return because the money was donated?

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Yes, i was wondering about this too! I'm from Europe but if you have a company, you have to pay 'company taxes' (what would be the 40.000) but if you donate to a good cause i think there are special tax privileges (so for example a tax return). All in all i think it should all end up to the 391660. EVEN if she has to pay taxes i feel it's a bit of a scam since the taxes make the total amount donated less than what she stated?

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Post by Hc3776 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:38 am

Did Kurt never do a post on his Instagram about how they got engaged?!

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Post by hrglss83 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:51 am

sweetniblets wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:05 am
Hello friends. Not to change the subject, but I noticed something in Sarah’s screenshot she posted when complaining about her texts/emails (which, do we really believe she received 800+ ACTUAL emails in one day? Not just promos/social media notifications? Ha, ok.). ANYWAY, hidden behind her comment is the MyFitnessPal app. Now she hasn’t talked about this in a while, but I remember her always priding herself in never counting calories. Doesn’t quite add up now, does it?
Wow, good job catching that. That's definitely MFP. And I've been wondering about this, because I thought I remembered her claiming that she never in her life counted calories, but I recently went all the way back on her Instagram account because I have this fascination with how when people change their facial features, over time you totally forget that they used to look different. And I wanted to compare what she looked like before she got famous to what she looks like now (which is actually crazy? because I thought she only had fillers and horrible fake teeth? oh and I guess different eyebrows too cause those were quite bad back in the day), and I found posts of when she promoted her videos back then, in 2016, where she was all about carb cycling and counting macros. When I saw that, I was kind of confused because I thought I remembered her claiming she's NEVER counted calories. Do I remember that wrong? Please correct me if I do. I could actually see her being like "I counted macros, not calories" which would be the funniest thing ever. The sum of your macros = your calories lol

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Post by Bookieslove23 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:21 am

I just got on this forum and I just logged into my insta account a few days ago. So I have been watching her stories. Why does she have to say how much she’s trying to donate in every store. I’m getting the wrong vibes when she does that. Is she trying to brag or get praise for this??? It just doesn’t sit well with me everytime she posts and explains the amount.

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Post by Gfit » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:31 am

Sarah said “proceeds” on an insta story (don’t have screenshots) but not the actual feed post Kurt said it on his actual feed post.
I understand having to pay tax but she should have put 356,000 on that yoga on the beach photo rather than making it look like she was going to donate that figure
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Post by Sarahtommy » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:43 am

I've been following Sarah since before she met Kurt, when she filmed in her own bedroom.
Although I HATE so much about her.....

I honestly don't think she'd steal money or scam people with not donating to charity. I think ALL that she has made will go to charity.
I think she is just stupid and Crying because she is getting hate from others.

Whether she made almost $400k is the question, I'm still not convinced.

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Post by Ella1234 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:02 pm

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Did Kurt never do a post on his Instagram about how they got engaged?!
Lol barely

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Post by justanothergg » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:27 pm

spaghettistrap wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:59 am
If she is keeping the 40k for tax reasons, won't she be able to claim them back on her tax return because the money was donated?

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Accountant can you clarify?

I thought this would be the case too.

$360k income
$400k tax deduction
$40k GST expense

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Post by drunkatvogue » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:59 pm

Gfit wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:31 am
Sarah said “proceeds” on an insta story (don’t have screenshots) but not the actual feed post Kurt said it on his actual feed post.
I understand having to pay tax but she should have put 356,000 on that yoga on the beach photo rather than making it look like she was going to donate that figure
Saying that she will donate 100% of sales is very different from donating 100% of proceeds, which if she owes tax would be the net amount after expenses. This is not her first day out, this is another deliberate deception. The crocodile tears and blame-shifting illustrate that.

All her credibility as Such An Honest Person and a Boss Babe has been torn to shreds, by her and only her.
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Post by oscastaf2018 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:01 pm

justanothergg wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:27 pm
spaghettistrap wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:59 am
If she is keeping the 40k for tax reasons, won't she be able to claim them back on her tax return because the money was donated?

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Accountant can you clarify?

I thought this would be the case too.

$360k income
$400k tax deduction
$40k GST expense
So gst and income tax are two different types of tax, so the GST isnt claimed when she pays her income tax. Income tax is paid on an annual basis, and for her would likely not be until March following the end of financial year (for example, 30 June 2020, she wouldn't pay her income tax until March 2021).

However, if she still matched the total sales $391k as a deduction, she would get some of that GST amount back when filing her income tax because it would decrease her taxable income (income - expenses).

How much of that would depend on what tax rate she is on. I highly doubt she would get the full $35k in tax savings in her income tax because your income tax is based on a percentage of taxable income. So the extra amount in the deduction can only reduce her income tax by the percentage of her tax rate, so she would end up out of pocket still.

Again, just want to reiterate i am not defending, just trying to provide info on accounting/tax side.

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Post by B Bop » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:05 pm

I doubt her intention was to keep the money herself, the entire situation around the bushfires and raising money is all too public for he to be able to swindle everyone.

What I do think, is that she wanted to capitalize on all the hype around celebrities and influencers raising money and getting media attention. Yes she wanted to raise money, but it was also all about engagement and future self promotion.

The fact that she has failed to even investigate how to donate over a week later points to her complete lack of common sense. Dragging out the actual donation part is disgusting, it should have been a priority. Instead she has been creating shitty tiktoks, doing her secret cooking project, going to the gym, house renos and getting her hair done - which by the way was a perfect time to research how to donate to 4 charities. I’m not saying she still couldn’t have done all those things, but it proves how warped her priorities are. I mean grow up Sarah. How she actually runs a business is beyond me.

On another note, it’s meant to be raining all weekend in the Northern Rivers/Byron area. So that might not be great for whatever they have planned....bonus!!


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Post by ggg1991 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:08 pm

Sarah and Kurt would 100% have finance professionals they could turn to for advice on transferring the funds.
They have bought two properties and would no doubt have had conversations with finance professionals.
If it was too much responsibility for her to make the transactions, pay someone to do that bit.
Her crying about it doesn’t help the money raised by her followers get to the people who need it any quicker.

If she gets overwhelmed with all her emails, finances and going to the bank to the point of crying on her instagram unable to come up with any solutions except for saying how good she is for donating so much money, hire an executive assistant.
They are experts in assisting people with the day to day running of peoples lives.

Also...in Aus when you buy a property you need to pay 10-20% deposit...
For the apartment that would have been a transfer for 160k and the house a transfer of $270k.
She seemed to sort that out ? ?
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