JackSepticEye Part 7 - Jack “YouTube’s the problem not me” Septiceye

[Zamn]

The hypocrisy of this thread is really something else. You people just tried to expose Felix's sexuality even though it's absolutely none of your business. You even went that far and watched a bunch of streams and videos to prove that he might be bisexual. But you guys lose your shit when someone says faggot. Like, if you wanna be PC then be it. But sticking your nose in someone's sex life and openly discussing if someone's gay and then lose your mind when a person says a word. Wow. Uncomfortable. I'm out.

No disrespect but how are we exposing him, if he himself said he was bi? He said it live on stream and a podcast. If it was such a problem, he would have taken all these things down or never said it in the first place.

EDIT: As a regular viewer I happened - like many others - happen to watch his streams live. And as long as they're still uploaded, it's nothing bad. People don't watch his old things to expose him, it's pretty common knowledge in his fandom he said it (we had a long discussion about it in his threads about it as well). I think if he's saying he's indeed bisexual on multiple occasions, there's not much exposing for us here to do. All we are trying to figure out if it's true or if it's a joke in bad taste; because it's the latter, that's really messed up.

[Chibi Mooncat]

Now Jack has removed the link to the new editors Twitter. Trying to cover your tracks now are you Jack? Doesn’t matter because we and other people have the receipts.

[Salt_And_Lemons]

The hypocrisy of this thread is really something else. You people just tried to expose Felix's sexuality even though it's absolutely none of your business. You even went that far and watched a bunch of streams and videos to prove that he might be bisexual. But you guys lose your shit when someone says faggot. Like, if you wanna be PC then be it. But sticking your nose in someone's sex life and openly discussing if someone's gay and then lose your mind when a person says a word. Wow. Uncomfortable. I'm out.

Expose??? When he said it? If he said he’s Bi, he’s either bi or joking and entirely comfortable with the side-effect of people thinking he is bisexual. There’s a difference between that and literal slurs. That’s like you coming to me and saying “Hey, Lemons! You said you hate it when people use the “hard R” but you also LOVE Dave Chappell’s black jokes...which is it????” People on here act like toeing the line of being bigoted is a wonderful talent. If I want to here homophobic slurs in public, I can go stand on a Bible-thumping street corner.

[aaaaaaaaaah]

Completely unrelated to the current topic, but with all the Hong Kong stuff going on and people mentioning what brands are supporting China, I remembered that all the Cloak merch is made in an "ethical" Chinese factory. I also can't find anything he's said about HK which honestly surprised me? With all the good (and ego stroking) he tries to do with the charity livestreams and PMA, HK seems like the perfect thing to talk about, even just to raise awareness. It's non-inflammatory and the only people who would be angry at him are pro-CCP. It's not like he could've missed it either, especially not what's going on with Blizzard right now. Stuff about HK is literally everywhere.

Also, even if the factory is ethical for the workers, it supports a government that is destroying minorities and harvesting organs from refugees and their own citizens. I get that Cloak is an essentially insignificant portion of the money, but it's support nonetheless. Just seems weird that neither Mark nor Jack have mentioned HK while they talk about doing so much good for the world and they've got a factory in China.

[Salt_And_Lemons]

Completely unrelated to the current topic, but with all the Hong Kong stuff going on and people mentioning what brands are supporting China, I remembered that all the Cloak merch is made in an "ethical" Chinese factory. I also can't find anything he's said about HK which honestly surprised me? With all the good (and ego stroking) he tries to do with the charity livestreams and PMA, HK seems like the perfect thing to talk about, even just to raise awareness. It's non-inflammatory and the only people who would be angry at him are pro-CCP. It's not like he could've missed it either, especially not what's going on with Blizzard right now. Stuff about HK is literally everywhere.

Also, even if the factory is ethical for the workers, it supports a government that is destroying minorities and harvesting organs from refugees and their own citizens. I get that Cloak is an essentially insignificant portion of the money, but it's support nonetheless. Just seems weird that neither Mark nor Jack have mentioned HK while they talk about doing so much good for the world and they've got a factory in China.

Mark did talk about HK on that whole “Peens” Twitch thing he does with Wade and Bob. He said he was against the protesters being painted as rioters and Blizzard kowtowing to China for money over morals. HOWEVER, I do think they should suspend shop until Hong Kong gets what they want. I don’t care that it is in a “ethical” and “green revolution” part of China; the corrupt government controls it all. It’s a small difference but it’s about showing public support. Any good done by if not using sweat shop companies is negated until Hong Kong is free. Protesters lives don’t matter less. I hope Jack speaks on it too, maybe they can come to a consensus (if they still speak, lmao. Wonder what happened there?)

[AcadiaScarlet]

As I still lurk Jack on Twitter, this happened around 3 weeks ago incase ya'll didn't see it.


I don't think he ever liked these types of posts before the 2018 change and this is not the first time. Is he needy/horny that he needs to look at those types of pics, doesn't Gab give him the satisfaction? But don't they have so much in common and isn't Gab such a lovely person?

[aaaaaaaaaah]

Completely unrelated to the current topic, but with all the Hong Kong stuff going on and people mentioning what brands are supporting China, I remembered that all the Cloak merch is made in an "ethical" Chinese factory. I also can't find anything he's said about HK which honestly surprised me? With all the good (and ego stroking) he tries to do with the charity livestreams and PMA, HK seems like the perfect thing to talk about, even just to raise awareness. It's non-inflammatory and the only people who would be angry at him are pro-CCP. It's not like he could've missed it either, especially not what's going on with Blizzard right now. Stuff about HK is literally everywhere.

Also, even if the factory is ethical for the workers, it supports a government that is destroying minorities and harvesting organs from refugees and their own citizens. I get that Cloak is an essentially insignificant portion of the money, but it's support nonetheless. Just seems weird that neither Mark nor Jack have mentioned HK while they talk about doing so much good for the world and they've got a factory in China.

Mark did talk about HK on that whole “Peens” Twitch thing he does with Wade and Bob. He said he was against the protesters being painted as rioters and Blizzard kowtowing to China for money over morals. HOWEVER, I do think they should suspend shop until Hong Kong gets what they want. I don’t care that it is in a “ethical” and “green revolution” part of China; the corrupt government controls it all. It’s a small difference but it’s about showing public support. Any good done by if not using sweat shop companies is negated until Hong Kong is free. Protesters lives don’t matter less. I hope Jack speaks on it too, maybe they can come to a consensus (if they still speak, lmao. Wonder what happened there?)

Oh, thanks for letting me know! I don't keep up with Mark all that much.

It's good that he spoke about it, but money speaks a lot louder than a guy saying "hey that's bad don't do that" to a whole country. Imo it's kind of like someone talking about how bad slave labor is and then showing off all their nike shoes. When you've got the means to make an actual show of support, no matter how small, then it's worth it to try to help. Both of them talk about improving the world (I remember Mark used to tell a story about throwing back washed up turtles on a beach where even if you can't save them all, you saved the one you threw back) and this is a place where they can take a strong stance, but they aren't. It makes it look like they only want to do good stuff as long as it doesn't hurt their profit margins.

[lilprincesst]

Welp guys, ive finally unsubscribed from jacks channel. Its been months since ive watched any of his videos, so ive pretty much just been scrolling past his videos and i judging from what ive seen from his thumbnails, i assume hes gotten worse. I know i haven't been on here a while (i missed hearing you guys opinons, so ill be back to read them and interact (: ), but ive just gotten to the point to where i dont even care about him anymore.

If he wants to be with a woman that uses him for his money, lie to his fans and himself, and kiss peoples asses for a small gig, then so be it. He's basically just a guy version of Gab. Anyways, i guess i was just waiting for a time for him to just come to his senses and just make a vid of him expressing how he was wrong, his actions, ect. Then i came to the conclusion that hes never gonna come around, and to stop wasting my own time. This guy is choosing to live in a reality where everything is OK and hes "the happiest hes ever been!" And its honestly, so sad. I pity this man. Now look at him, wilding out on the internet and lashing on others--along with gab-- for attention.

[teetyme]

The hypocrisy of this thread is really something else. You people just tried to expose Felix's sexuality even though it's absolutely none of your business. You even went that far and watched a bunch of streams and videos to prove that he might be bisexual. But you guys lose your shit when someone says ******. Like, if you wanna be PC then be it. But sticking your nose in someone's sex life and openly discussing if someone's gay and then lose your mind when a person says a word. Wow. Uncomfortable. I'm out.

He literally said it publicly. In a stream. More than once. It's not a private topic at this point. You can argue this about Jack maybe, but this site is literally made for gossiping, which sometimes includes people's sex life. Also, just FYI, a lot of posters here don't give a squat about being "PC" or not.

I've personally always gotten strong "bi vibes" from Jack, but I honestly don't care one way or the other.

[onyxmartiz]

I haven't been on this thread in a while, honestly because Jack has been just.. bleh. A drum cover? Wow. Wasn't that 2 years ago when he released his first and only one, but now we're dragging that back out? Get out of here.

Also has anyone noticed how when Cloak released some new products, Jack was the only one to announce it. Not Mark. If he did then I totally missed it but, if its correct. Mark might have distanced himself from the brand. Sure he's worn the brand but, he hasn't promoted it at all and it seems like Jack is carrying the whole Cloak brand because its just him. Well he did turn the whole Cloak brand twitter page into his fan page so... Something doesn't seem right.

Also in general, i'm kinda bored of him and his 30 million other projects that he has going on, wants to do or is going to do. Like sure variety is the spice of life but he seriously needs to make his damn mind up on what he wants to do. Does he want to do voice acting? Does he want to become a drummer again? Does he want to run this clothing brand? Does he want to be an interviewer? Does he want to be a lets player. Does he want to be a reviewer? Does he want to become an actor.

He needs to pick 2-3 things off his list and focus on those things only. Because him spreading his butter onto every single piece of bread, is literally wasteful and of course taking away oppotunities from others to use that bread and butter.

Mark announced it in his video

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[onyxmartiz]

As I still lurk Jack on Twitter, this happened around 3 weeks ago incase ya'll didn't see it.


I don't think he ever liked these types of posts before the 2018 change and this is not the first time. Is he needy/horny that he needs to look at those types of pics, doesn't Gab give him the satisfaction? But don't they have so much in common and isn't Gab such a lovely person?

Jack and Jessica nigri are friends. Hes being supportive of his friends. They used to attend the same conventions and hang hout before they both got too busy... ive said this before

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[AcadiaScarlet]

As I still lurk Jack on Twitter, this happened around 3 weeks ago incase ya'll didn't see it.


I don't think he ever liked these types of posts before the 2018 change and this is not the first time. Is he needy/horny that he needs to look at those types of pics, doesn't Gab give him the satisfaction? But don't they have so much in common and isn't Gab such a lovely person?

Jack and Jessica nigri are friends. Hes being supportive of his friends. They used to attend the same conventions and hang hout before they both got too busy... ive said this before

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Ah then I probably haven't seen it Kind of weird if you didn't know that!

[Chibi Mooncat]

What’s this? Ego content involving Chase? Will Stacy let him see his kids? Probably not, will he be severely depressed and hitting the bottle hard? Most likely.

But let’s see where Seán’s going with this.
(Found this on his YouTube story.)

[rainbowsoldier]

What’s this? Ego content involving Chase? Will Stacy let him see his kids? Probably not, will he be severely depressed and hitting the bottle hard? Most likely.

But let’s see where Seán’s going with this.
(Found this on his YouTube story.)

He also posted an audio file teaser on discord and its on tumblr too now.

https://hawkeye221b.tumblr.com/post/188 ... cord-panic

[onyxmartiz]

As I still lurk Jack on Twitter, this happened around 3 weeks ago incase ya'll didn't see it.


I don't think he ever liked these types of posts before the 2018 change and this is not the first time. Is he needy/horny that he needs to look at those types of pics, doesn't Gab give him the satisfaction? But don't they have so much in common and isn't Gab such a lovely person?

Jack and Jessica nigri are friends. Hes being supportive of his friends. They used to attend the same conventions and hang hout before they both got too busy... ive said this before

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Ah then I probably haven't seen it Kind of weird if you didn't know that!

Oh yea def. Lol most people dont bc they dont get to hang out as much anymore it seems but he still talks to her here and there on twitter

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[takingouttrash]

Oh God he really did change it to an Adidas hat. Bet he's wanting that sponsorship.

[SlitheringSerpentine]

As an illustrator and as someone who critiques/copy edits the occasional draft for aspiring authors, I see his mentality a lot. In people who get nowhere.

It is fulfilling to have people notice your artwork, whether it's drawn, acted, written, or filmed, but if you get stuck in the "I NEED to make this great before I show anyone" mentality, then you never show anyone and you can never improve. Your standards for your own work are insanely high. You see every mistake, every single slip up, and every moment where something could've been better. When other people see it, especially people who don't know as much about your chosen art form as you do, they only see the impressive parts. They look at it as a whole as see how it all fits together, and that's it.

Some people will look closer and see faults, but those people often know more about the craft so they can appreciate it as a flawed, but good, piece. Some people won't like what you make. I don't like the egos (including Mark's) but I can see when effort went in and appreciate that. My job is professional illustration; I've illustrated children's books alongside a few covers for adult and YA, as well as general media stuff, and guess what? Some people just don't like a certain art style. You can't get caught up in other people's opinions if they'll get in the way of creating what you feel a need to create. People's expectations are just their expectations -- they don't have to mean anything to you.

It's the same as (in his Mark/ego apology) when he said that "all creative people get like this sometime". They don't. People who put too much emphasis on other people do. What Jack's doing might be ambitious, but there's no ambition in putting it off constantly. He should put less pressure on himself, but how can he do it when he's still a people pleaser? He said it himself, he wants to do the egos justice for the fans too. Nothing will change if he can't separate himself from fictional characters that he/other people made up.

Your craft is not your baby. It might come from you and feel personal, but it is something you've created. It isn't alive, it won't get hurt if people don't like it, but like a baby, if you coddle it and never let it see the light, all you get is a messy, regressed thing that never got what it needed to get better. So what if Jack's ego videos aren't great straight away? He can improve. The worst thing an artist can be is stagnant. When I said that your own standards are high, if you're inexperienced then your standards are high without any way to become more realistic. You can look at a painting and think "I could never do that" but then, once you learn the techniques and different brushes, it all becomes a lot simpler. While you won't become Bob Ross overnight, you have the tools to get better. By keeping his ego project hidden, he can't get the tools to create something better. He'll stay inexperienced and he'll never be able to create something that meets realistic standards, because he doesn't know what a realistic standard is.

Also, I don't think we're on the cusp of a big change since the entire post reads as "you guys put too much pressure on me and it made me sad!! i just wanna do you guys justice." He's still being a victim, so it doesn't look like he's had that much of a mental epiphany. His mentality is one that a lot of artists start out with, but they end up nowhere because they're unable to get past the fear of getting something down on paper. I hope he's continuing therapy now that he's back in England. That's the only way I see that he could start moving past these problems. (sorry for the essay guys, turns out I have a lot to say about this and it might be a bit rant-ish because I'm currently dealing with someone like this irl)

This is incredible advice, thank you for sharing. I never thought of things that way and though it was meant for Jack, I find this very useful for myself too.

Edit: sorry, I know it was from a few pages back and I usually avoid commenting when I’m playing but catch up, but this post was just so genuinely wonderful I couldn’t help myself.

[NiamhWInters]

So "Chase" is premiering in an hour. It's going to have to be a freakin' spectacle of cinematic magic in order for it to be worth literally months of stalling and apologies

I think that's why I tend to respect Mark a lot more than I do Sean - because Mark just usually gets shit done without feeling like he has to constantly apologise or make excuses for himself.

Like in a recent video he explained that he's been practising music for two years or something - imagine if in all that time he was just like "Guys I'm so sorry I haven't done any more singing yet I know you guys are getting inpatient but I only have one shot at this and want this to be perfect and I keep beating myself up about it oh and if you guys could make a bunch of fanart of me singing that I'll post multiple times a day for the next TWO YEARS that'll be great"

[Justforkicks]

So "Chase" is premiering in an hour. It's going to have to be a freakin' spectacle of cinematic magic in order for it to be worth literally months of stalling and apologies

I think that's why I tend to respect Mark a lot more than I do Sean - because Mark just usually gets shit done without feeling like he has to constantly apologise or make excuses for himself.

Like in a recent video he explained that he's been practising music for two years or something - imagine if in all that time he was just like "Guys I'm so sorry I haven't done any more singing yet I know you guys are getting inpatient but I only have one shot at this and want this to be perfect and I keep beating myself up about it oh and if you guys could make a bunch of fanart of me singing that I'll post multiple times a day for the next TWO YEARS that'll be great"

So true, haha, Mark just seems to do the things he likes rather than doing the things his fans want to see and he therefore doesn't have to post about doing something with music if it's just practice. With Jack it seems like he doesn't really care about these side projects but feels as though he has to make them and he therefore has to capture every second of him working on said project or apologise for the lack of work. I honestly don't think he's really that creative at all and that's fine with me, but I don't get why he beats himself (and us) up about it. He could really just find some very creative people and work with them on content like this to take it to a higher level...

[Chibi Mooncat]

So all of this is just one big ad for SOCKS?! Are you kidding me? That can’t be all there is? Is the hype even worth it?