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madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
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That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️

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madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
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That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️

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WhoWillGetNala2019 wrote:
madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
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That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️
Uh... No. In a phrase like that one it would be "creative like me and my Mom." It is simple to figure out, forget about the " my Mom" part and fill out the phrase just for yourself. Creative like ... Me. We wouldn't say "Creative like I". So it would be me and therefore "my Mom and me." a good editor would have fixed that.

That Angela Oles video was great for showing how absolute crap Cordially Invited is. I don't get Zoe. She has all these opportunities basically handed to her just because she got on YouTube at the right time and her personality then struck a chord, but she doesn't do anything with it.

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QueenBW wrote:
WhoWillGetNala2019 wrote:
madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
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That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️
Uh... No. In a phrase like that one it would be "creative like me and my Mom." It is simple to figure out, forget about the " my Mom" part and fill out the phrase just for yourself. Creative like ... Me. We wouldn't say "Creative like I". So it would be me and therefore "my Mom and me." a good editor would have fixed that.

That Angela Oles video was great for showing how absolute crap Cordially Invited is. I don't get Zoe. She has all these opportunities basically handed to her just because she got on YouTube at the right time and her personality then struck a chord, but she doesn't do anything with it.
In this case, the most correct option is definitely "my mom and I", and a good editor has definitely insisted on that because Zoe, much like you, doesn't know that, but go off I guess.

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CykamoreTres wrote:
QueenBW wrote:
WhoWillGetNala2019 wrote:
madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
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That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️
Uh... No. In a phrase like that one it would be "creative like me and my Mom." It is simple to figure out, forget about the " my Mom" part and fill out the phrase just for yourself. Creative like ... Me. We wouldn't say "Creative like I". So it would be me and therefore "my Mom and me." a good editor would have fixed that.

That Angela Oles video was great for showing how absolute crap Cordially Invited is. I don't get Zoe. She has all these opportunities basically handed to her just because she got on YouTube at the right time and her personality then struck a chord, but she doesn't do anything with it.
In this case, the most correct option is definitely "my mom and I", and a good editor has definitely insisted on that because Zoe, much like you, doesn't know that, but go off I guess.
I m an editor, sweetie. And we would definitely do me instead of I and actually go with "Whether you are creative like me and my Mom, or..." But you go ahead and dig your heels.

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QueenBW wrote:
CykamoreTres wrote:
QueenBW wrote:
WhoWillGetNala2019 wrote:
madcat55 wrote:I'm so confused -- how did the sh*t Zoe wrote for Cordially Invited even get past an editor??!? All I've read so far is the short introduction page and it's completely riddled with grammar mistakes and completely trash writing! Just one of the plethora of grammar mistakes in the introduction: "Whether you’re creative like my mum and I, or you struggle to draw a stick man..." It's my mum and ME, not my mum and I! This is basic grammar! They teach this stuff in elementary school! I'm not surprised that Zoe has the writing skills of a 5th grader but for goodness' sake why didn't the professional editor catch this stuff?!? What the hell was the editor doing? If this is what Zoe's writing looks like after going through numerous edits by a professional editor, I shudder to think what her original draft must've been like. Zoe's writing is complete sh*t; I actually might've been happier if she had had Cordially Invited ghostwritten again because then at least she wouldn't be selling a completely sh*tty product. I genuinely can't believe someone published this sh*t in an actual book.
——

That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️
Uh... No. In a phrase like that one it would be "creative like me and my Mom." It is simple to figure out, forget about the " my Mom" part and fill out the phrase just for yourself. Creative like ... Me. We wouldn't say "Creative like I". So it would be me and therefore "my Mom and me." a good editor would have fixed that.

That Angela Oles video was great for showing how absolute crap Cordially Invited is. I don't get Zoe. She has all these opportunities basically handed to her just because she got on YouTube at the right time and her personality then struck a chord, but she doesn't do anything with it.
In this case, the most correct option is definitely "my mom and I", and a good editor has definitely insisted on that because Zoe, much like you, doesn't know that, but go off I guess.
I m an editor, sweetie. And we would definitely do me instead of I and actually go with "Whether you are creative like me and my Mom, or..." But you go ahead and dig your heels.
Not a very good one, apparently.

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Offtopic: It’s definitely “Mum and I”. “Mum and me” is grammatically incorrect. In the sentence ‘Whether you’re creative like my mum and I’ ‘Mum’ and ‘I’ are the subjects of the sentence. ‘I’ is a subject pronoun and therefore it fits. ‘Me’ is an object pronoun so would not fit.

Sorry. Grammar student. Had to say that.

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CykamoreTres wrote:
QueenBW wrote:
CykamoreTres wrote:
QueenBW wrote:
WhoWillGetNala2019 wrote:
That’s actually one of my pet peeves. It is ‘my mom and I.’ ☺️
Uh... No. In a phrase like that one it would be "creative like me and my Mom." It is simple to figure out, forget about the " my Mom" part and fill out the phrase just for yourself. Creative like ... Me. We wouldn't say "Creative like I". So it would be me and therefore "my Mom and me." a good editor would have fixed that.

That Angela Oles video was great for showing how absolute crap Cordially Invited is. I don't get Zoe. She has all these opportunities basically handed to her just because she got on YouTube at the right time and her personality then struck a chord, but she doesn't do anything with it.
In this case, the most correct option is definitely "my mom and I", and a good editor has definitely insisted on that because Zoe, much like you, doesn't know that, but go off I guess.
I m an editor, sweetie. And we would definitely do me instead of I and actually go with "Whether you are creative like me and my Mom, or..." But you go ahead and dig your heels.
Not a very good one, apparently.
I do believe it's "me" not "I". An easy rule to use is that if the "me/I" is at the end of a sentence, then it's usually "me". If the "me/I" is at the beginning of a sentence, then it's usually "I". For example, "My mother and I ate a cookie." vs "Me and my mother ate a cookie." The former is correct; the latter is incorrect. In contrast, "The cookie was eaten by me and my mother." is correct, whereas "The cookie was eaten by my mother and I" is incorrect. Another easy rule to follow is to just take out the second person (Ex: "My mother") and see if the sentence stills sounds correct.

Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to start a grammar argument. The main point is that Zoe is a terrible writer, so whether it was her intention to or not, she did a good job of removing all doubts about the book not being ghostwritten.

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You know her life is boring when an entire page in this thread is people arguing the use of "I" vs "me"

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madcat55 wrote: Zoe is a terrible writer
The "book publishers" are terrible writer's also - too many Zero's written on the paycheck they sent that greedy cry baby !! :rofl:

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Stay on topic please.

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That's how sad this thread has become, people going off at each other over grammar :(

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I know we’re supposed to stay on topic but I genuinely want to know the answer. I was taught it would be “and me” and I’m so confused haha.

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It's creative like my mum and I because you are the subject of the sentence, when you are the subject it's "and I"

I really don't understand what she's doing posting a vlog that's at least a month old? Does she think we won't notice? We just released a book, I don't understand why she would post this afterwards

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Cordially Un-Invited? idk lol
Sorry, English is my first language.

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It's 'me'. If you were to remove 'my mum' from the sentence you'd have creative like ME, not 'creative like I'.

I'm so confused with the office situation. I never see Alfie there, and when he is they say he's "in meetings", wtf is he doing??
I thought it would be more interesting to see her in the office, and it is a lot better than just seeing her at home slobbing about, but.....idk....Still not interesting enough.

Not keen on this Angela Oles. All she does is sit in a dark room complaining about various other youtubers, and goes on tangents how she makes better content than them (shrug).
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I propose Cordiella: 280390 Creative Tips
Or something like that, idk what to say about the tips
I thought maybe “280390 tips you’d never think of” but that was too long hehe

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Her vlogs in the office are embarrassing, she’s trying to make herself sound busy and important and then plays around like a child.

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