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oqua wrote:Offtopic: I just want to say one more time that I am really enjoying all the new avatars people are getting! I must admit, I imagine you all as looking like your avatars, so it's like I'm finally able to put a face to a name, so to speak. :D (Or an image of a name to a name, in some cases. ;) )

[I guess I actually associate some of you with your signature pic rather than your avatar; for example sweetmm looks like Phil in the awkward couple photo with Dan and illegal looks like Ursula. And then felucca, I randomly imagine you looking like your YouTube profile picture.]
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Since it is the middle of the March, I think it's time to wonder whether there will be a new craft video this year or not or maybe another new channel altogether. I lowkey hope there will be one especially when we are all thirsty for anything at all right now. Throw some stuff at us guys!
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swofro wrote: Since it is the middle of the March, I think it's time to wonder whether there will be a new craft video this year or not or maybe another new channel altogether. I lowkey hope there will be one especially when we are all thirsty for anything at all right now. Throw some stuff at us guys!
While I would really like that to happen either a new craft video or something else, I just can’t see it this year. Please prove me wrong boys. Also give me some more Undertale.

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swofro wrote:
oqua wrote:Offtopic: I just want to say one more time that I am really enjoying all the new avatars people are getting! I must admit, I imagine you all as looking like your avatars, so it's like I'm finally able to put a face to a name, so to speak. :D (Or an image of a name to a name, in some cases. ;) )

[I guess I actually associate some of you with your signature pic rather than your avatar; for example sweetmm looks like Phil in the awkward couple photo with Dan and illegal looks like Ursula. And then felucca, I randomly imagine you looking like your YouTube profile picture.]
Do you think I am a pretty flower? :fit2:

Since it is the middle of the March, I think it's time to wonder whether there will be a new craft video this year or not or maybe another new channel altogether. I lowkey hope there will be one especially when we are all thirsty for anything at all right now. Throw some stuff at us guys!
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oqua wrote:Offtopic: I just want to say one more time that I am really enjoying all the new avatars people are getting! I must admit, I imagine you all as looking like your avatars, so it's like I'm finally able to put a face to a name, so to speak. :D (Or an image of a name to a name, in some cases. ;) )

[I guess I actually associate some of you with your signature pic rather than your avatar; for example sweetmm looks like Phil in the awkward couple photo with Dan and illegal looks like Ursula. And then felucca, I randomly imagine you looking like your YouTube profile picture.]

I do sort of same thing except for some people it's a bit weird. Like for you oqua because your pic has a blue filter on it, I just see you as a girl but with blue skin and dark blue hair?? I don't know why my brain imagines that.. but yeah. Illegal is a cat and felucca is Dan poking his tongue out and swofro you're a person wearing that big flower on your head.. Ok I'll shut up now

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alittledizzy wrote:
whoknows wrote: Well I used to believe in them you know,but now I just can't. There has been to much antiproof and yall are just delusional to think they are a thing. And mean to keep pushing that people have doubts are just putting their heads in the sand. I don't get all these phanfics things that keep pushing them together and can't seem to understand thatpeople actually can be platonic biffles.
Ahhh, delusional. The word that feeds my soul.

Idk man, I find it more delusional to spend all your time talking about how they definitely aren't together anymore. That's some real burying your head in the sand. I mean, phandivorced? It's a weak cover for how much you wish you were in that kind of relationship. It's okay, though. It's exactly what I expect from someone who spends all day watching Alfie.

(And you are the queen of 'I'm definitely not secretly dating my platonic biffle' aren't you? #walex)
Hey, I never said I wouldn't like a relationship like their F-R-I-E-N-D-S-H-I-P like theirs it seems to great. But thats all it is in the end, a friendship. And lbr, if dp put up any kind of content,nevermind the quality, maybe I wouldn't be watching others. At least the gleamers management team seems to have some control over their youtubers and have them update. Something dp are sorely lacking.But until they actually do something, people are going to look elsewhere. I dare say look at this girl name glitterforever17, her videos may seem chilidish but at least she puts some effort into them and uploads on a constant.

DP are fine with the fic, they prolly read and laugh bout the weird phan shippers.

Jhambs you are a strange one for the nose thing.

And wtf is a walex?
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oqua wrote:Offtopic: illegal looks like Ursula.
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Wait what, what are these 6 or so incidents from the evil 2012 period. Was there actually some bad blood between them for a short while. Or did they just look a tiny bit less smitten when they stared at each other?
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I had a feeling they would upload today, since it's St. Patty's day, but I guess not. :(
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oqua wrote:Offtopic: illegal looks like Ursula.
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oqua wrote:Offtopic: I must admit, I imagine you all as looking like your avatars, so it's like I'm finally able to put a face to a name, so to speak. :D (Or an image of a name to a name, in some cases. ;) )
Offtopic: I'm ok with you imagining me looking like Jonny Greenwood. :tu: Daniel, look, a member of Radiohead is on a forum discussing you & Phil!
oqua wrote:Dude, I love Dan's nose so much. I disagree that he rarely shows it, though. Despite his carefully-prepared poses on insta and stuff, half of the time when we see him and Phil together in videos he's staring at Phil, putting his profile (and nose) on display!

I literally have a folder on my computer of photos of Dan where he's in profile, that's how much I like his nose. Maybe I'll post them here under a spoiler later on tonight, for laughs. Would that be excessive? :rofl:
I oddly like his nose too. Thought I was alone in my odd fixation, but I'm glad to know there are other Dan nose fetishists (since all we do here is fetishize ;)) out there. I would welcome some noseporn being posted during the drought! :love2:
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Both, please! I'm greedy.
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please Oqua create a thread for Dan's nose pictures. So then we will be known as the delusional middle aged nose pervert phan shippers :D

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idk. out of shippers who write fanfic and tweet it at them, and most of us, who think they are together, Dan, at least, has made it very very clear who he prefers.

I think rpf ships can definitely have the potential to be creepy, and I also agree that as long as people don't tweet the people fanfics, it's okay. But, with Dan and Phil specifically, I think shipping them is totally fine (shipping as in writing fanfiction, making fanart, ect), mostly because the creepiest thing in rpf is that it seems very non consensual. But if the people involved give their permission, I think it's fair game.

With the phandom, I think the people who ship them and write phanfic are usually very young kids, who are exploring creative writing, and are not old enough to be able to think of them as actual people, which Dan and Phil know. And, as Dan has said, he actually likes that kids are writing and is fine with them using him as a tool to do it.
I just want to make it clear that I'm not justifying this person's methods at all. They seem to be just as immature as the young people they are criticizing. Getting into flame wares with teenagers in the Freebatch tag seems like such a waste of time to me.
I do believe there is a learning curve on the internet about what is acceptable or not acceptable to put out there. Even as a young teenager, however, I don't think I would ever have had the barefaced cheek to post my (not even scandalous) Ryden fanfiction in a platform where Brendon Urie or Ryan Ross might have been able to see it. :rofl: The very thought would have mortified me. And I'm pretty sure even the youngest members of the Phandom know that they frequently use Tumblr/check their own tags.
Can I ask what makes you uncomfortable about the bolded sentence? Because honestly, the entertainment industry has been turning real people and their real life events into fictionalized entertainment since... well, since the beginning of the entertainment industry. No one looks at historical fiction novels and says 'creepy and uncomfortable.' No one thinks twice about biopics or 'based on a true story' movies. The Social Network was a huge blockbuster that was a fictionalized version of Mark Zuckerberg's life, including taking license with his relationships. Is it creepy and uncomfortable because fanfic is written online by women just for fun, but okay when it's primarily men and they get money for it? I mean, Hamilton is the biggest play on Broadway right now and it turns the founding fathers of the United States into fictionalized versions of themselves and no one says Lin-Manuel Miranda is creepy for writing it. I could keep going indefinitely listing examples, but you get my point. The argument that rpf is creepy never sits well with me but in this case it especially doesn't because, as jhamba said, Dan and Phil themselves have never expressed any disapproval over fanfic about them.
You do make a good and intelligent point here. In my opinion, however, I think that a distinction can still be made between the kind of 'fanfiction' along the lines of biopics/historical fiction etc. and rpf. The former tends to keep the boundaries separated between fiction and reality a bit better than the latter, and the people who watch the film/read the book/consumer whatever form of media it is know this. For instance, The Social Network is based off of a biography of Mark Zuckerberg's life, but neither the writer of the biography or the makers/producers of the film claim that any of it is particularly truthful. It's pure Hollywood sensationalism, but the viewers don't care, and they understand this. I'm not saying that rpf claims to represent relationships or sex accurately (lol), but it does tend to influence younger, more impressionable fans to cross certain personal boundaries, because of the 'anything goes' mentality of spectacularly creepy fanfiction on Tumblr. I'm only talking about less than 1 percent of the Phandom here, like people who post 'PHAN IS REAL' on all their Instagram pictures. I'm also saying this as someone who has spent a shameful year or two being one of these creepy people in different fandoms, so I can look back at myself and cringe.

JK, I'm still creepy. I'm on this forum with my fellow middle-aged female nose perverts aren't I :tu:

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something that bothers me as someone who can never decide if they're a thing or not (sometimes I'm certain they are and other times I can't imagine them together) is the over-analysis of every video they do together. It doesn't necessarily come from this thread but the fandom in general. I understand a lot of the time people are half joking or purposely exaggerating what they think is a phan moment but them looking at each other really does not mean shit.

Also, just out of curiosity, how many of you are solely watching them because you're intrigued by the idea of not knowing if they're together or not. If in a few years you come to the conclusion that they aren't together will you stop watching them completely? is that the only thing that keeps you invested?

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Both, please! I'm greedy.
Both seems... Unlikely. Hell, Either, or in fact ANYTHING would do though. (Though ngl, I could REALLY do with a GBFO chunk of Undertale right the hell now...!)

I'm starting to give up hope that we'll see anything before they leave for TATINOF. And that makes me sad - but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Pistachiyo wrote: Also, just out of curiosity, how many of you are solely watching them because you're intrigued by the idea of not knowing if they're together or not. If in a few years you come to the conclusion that they aren't together will you stop watching them completely? is that the only thing that keeps you invested?
Honestly I will watch them as long as they (and their videos) entertain me. I am not watching solely on the basis of Phan. If they turn out not to be together, but just really good friends, then I would still enjoy watching that. I am a sucker for a good bromance after all, and they certainly qualify in that department. Their chemistry would still be there, and I enjoy that.
However, would they break up or stop being friends or whatever than I would still watch their individual videos (again as long as they entertain me), but I would lose a bit of interest. I think I would be a more casual fan of them were that to ever happen.

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bedhead91 wrote:
Can I ask what makes you uncomfortable about the bolded sentence? Because honestly, the entertainment industry has been turning real people and their real life events into fictionalized entertainment since... well, since the beginning of the entertainment industry. No one looks at historical fiction novels and says 'creepy and uncomfortable.' No one thinks twice about biopics or 'based on a true story' movies. The Social Network was a huge blockbuster that was a fictionalized version of Mark Zuckerberg's life, including taking license with his relationships. Is it creepy and uncomfortable because fanfic is written online by women just for fun, but okay when it's primarily men and they get money for it? I mean, Hamilton is the biggest play on Broadway right now and it turns the founding fathers of the United States into fictionalized versions of themselves and no one says Lin-Manuel Miranda is creepy for writing it. I could keep going indefinitely listing examples, but you get my point. The argument that rpf is creepy never sits well with me but in this case it especially doesn't because, as jhamba said, Dan and Phil themselves have never expressed any disapproval over fanfic about them.
You do make a good and intelligent point here. In my opinion, however, I think that a distinction can still be made between the kind of 'fanfiction' along the lines of biopics/historical fiction etc. and rpf. The former tends to keep the boundaries separated between fiction and reality a bit better than the latter, and the people who watch the film/read the book/consumer whatever form of media it is know this. For instance, The Social Network is based off of a biography of Mark Zuckerberg's life, but neither the writer of the biography or the makers/producers of the film claim that any of it is particularly truthful. It's pure Hollywood sensationalism, but the viewers don't care, and they understand this. I'm not saying that rpf claims to represent relationships or sex accurately (lol), but it does tend to influence younger, more impressionable fans to cross certain personal boundaries, because of the 'anything goes' mentality of spectacularly creepy fanfiction on Tumblr. I'm only talking about less than 1 percent of the Phandom here, like people who post 'PHAN IS REAL' on all their Instagram pictures. I'm also saying this as someone who has spent a shameful year or two being one of these creepy people in different fandoms, so I can look back at myself and cringe.
I think your distinction is a bit weak. The only distinction is that one is written (primarily) by men and as a profession, while the other is written (primarily) by women and for fun. For me it's intrinsically linked to the way society teaches us that things teenage girls do are not to be taken seriously and that women, particularly adult women, aren't really supposed to have hobbies that don't fit into a specific narrow field.

Fanfic writers don't make claims that what they are writing is the actual truth. Fanfic even used to come with standard legal disclaimers saying they weren't real, but that fell away due to the pure pointlessness of it. I've never once encountered a single person who believed fanfic was real, and if someone is young enough to be that impressionable then they're way too young for tumblr fandom. A thirteen year old is old enough to tell fantasy from reality in written form. I would even bet money that more people watched The Social Network and believed they were watching something accurate because, hey, that got made into a movie.

tl;dr You'll find conspiracy theorists and people with strong beliefs about the personal lives of celebrities impossible to escape, and it isn't because of fanfic. That's also not something that the phandom has a trademark on. I mean, interest in what celebs and public figures are up to spawned the whole tabloid industry long, long before online fan communities existed. But to your point is that the fourth wall needs to be respected and people don't need to shove things into Dan and Phil's faces - I totally agree.

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^^^^ exactly what SquishPan said btw i love your user name *squish* :HK:

I love their personalitys, I love that they have a lot in common with me. If someday I find they are really not together I would still be phan af, not in the shipper way, I mean I would still love them as much as I do now.

But if they stop being together (in the daily life i mean) I will be less involved. Because there will be less content i supose.

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I find it creepy when people's blogs say that they are into 'gay ships'. I get into shipping, but it's never been particularly aimed at gay men. I do find it weird how people can write the same fanfic for two different m/m pairings (i've seen people repurpose fics from other pairings for phan).
I agree with that blog, rape fics are creepy af. Like, what is the point of them? I mean, if it is a reflection on the author and helping them get through an experience, that is one thing, but otherwise it feels fetishize-y. You can't claim that all shipping is fetishization though. It's just certain ways that blogs talk sometimes about D+P that totally gives off that vibe.

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I admit I watch Dan and Phil solely because of their relationship.

I don't particularly care about their content (I find it more boring than most gleamers, tbh), opinions, music taste, etc. This doesn't mean I hate them or anything, I just feel their are completely average youtubers, and the only unique thing they have is their relationship. Once - if ever - we find out if they are together or not, I guess I'll watch a video every now and then.

I don't write here much because I feel most of you genuinely like Dan and Phil. It's like watching Big Brother for me (the contestants entertain me but I never feel 'proud' of them or anything). I sometimes feel a bit souless bc I'm not able to empathise with you guys.
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