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In Quebec Canada we have a law about smoking,

''Smoking is not permitted on any form of public transit, in restaurants and bars, stores, shopping centers, in cinemas, in elevators, in government offices or in banks, and inside office buildings. Many buildings have cigarette disposal arrangements outside.''

Also, those disposal arrangements outside must be at a certain distance from the building.

The only thing restaurants and bars can allow, if they have a permit, if to smoke the chicha. Now know that some restaurants do not listen to those rules.

My opinion on smoking has change a lot during the years. I am not a smoker, nor are my parents and I was against smoking next to me because I have some health issues. But my boyfriend smokes, as well as his father. The first 2 years, I told him to not smoke in front of me. Which he was fine with it. Even his father went along. Then, they both build a like roof outside their house so they can both smoke during winter and summer. So they both started to smoke their and sometimes I would join them to talk. It didn't bothered me because it's outside. I would just stay away.
Now after 5 years, my now fiance smokes in his car but always with the windows open, but he doesn't smoke in my car or at my place. Even at my place he smokes outside but on the street. He choose too do so.

I've learn to live with it but he stills respect the fact that I don't like it. But as a smoker, he is not against the law we have here. He says in fact it's good because then he has a reason not to smoke.

I believe that laws like this should be made everywhere so then no one is aloud to complain.

Now it is just plain stupid to complain about a person who is smoking if you are walking next to them. But at a restaurant, I agree that no one should smoke, kids or no kids.

(okay I was bored, I am done now :P)
English is not my first language nor my second :) Sorry for any mistakes I make!

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Nothing aggravates me more than when I'm trying to enjoy a meal outside and cigarette smoke starts blowing in my face and I wouldn't want it around my children either.
But hey it's a free country and the law allows smoking outside, so usually I'll just get up and move away from them. Alli is open minded but she does have a right to her own opinion and in this case she doesn't like people smoking around children.

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For reference.
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I don't see a problem with her tweet at all. That might be cause smoking inside has been banned forever and for the past few years you're not even allowed to smoke within 9m (30 feet) of any door or air source, so you couldn't even walk past the patio smoking.

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copperfox wrote:For reference.
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I read through the debate and I agree with Alli - I might not put my thoughts into her exact words but if you see that you are next to a child, put out your cigarette or move away. I'm for everyone doing whatever they want, and if that means smoking then more power to you but if I child comes near you while smoking - move away, if the kid is going to be there for a while, and you plan to stay there for a while, put the cigarette out. It's not really all that hard - moving away, or putting it out and lighting again when the kid's gone.

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I should probably have mentioned that I used to smoke until 5 years ago. Even as a smoker, it was something I only did in areas designated for smokers or at my own back yard - not even at my own home. I wouldn't even smoke at the bus stop. It's was my choice to smoke, and I never thought anyone should sacrifice their own comfort for my decision or that it should affect anyone's health but mine.

I come from a country with one of the highest rates of smokers in the world. When I quit smoking I realized how obnoxious and selfish smokers really are. It's not up to them to decide how far is far enough to smoke away from people. If it bothers someone enough that they have to make a remark about it, you should take it elsewhere or put the cigarette out. Sacrificing a 5 minute cigarette break won't kill you, but it may harm the people around you. Period.

To compare cigarette smoke which contains numerous toxins and can affect people with asthma (such as myself) and other medical conditions to seeing someone having a steak... again, you're either using the wrong metaphors or you're just really blind. No one is forcing you to eat the steak, but you're forcing them to breathe toxins in the air. Toxins that can lead them into hospital if they have an existing medical condition, or, in several years, for a medical condition developed by second hand smoking.

Sheesh...

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OK then I guess there's a special place in hell for all you parents who allow your children to eat sugary fatty foods, sit in front of the TV all day while they turn into zombies watching endless violent shows or playing video games and there's a special place in hell for all of you who drink in your own homes or outside when your children are around because after all your senses are dimmed and your child could be in danger and you'd never realize it..Oh and theres a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to ride bikes, skateboards etc without helmets, knee pads, elbow pads, and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to play contact sports like football and soccer where the chances of a serious injury are very high and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to eat processed fast foods, non organic fruits and veggies loaded with pesticides, meats loaded with antibiotics and steroids, and by all means lets NOT forget the twisted yuppie thinking of "vaccines will kill my child so they aren't getting them" thereby bringing back diseases and viruses log gone because of vaccines....

Oh wait thats right.. None of these count because they don't harm your children and none of YOU would EVER do ANY of the above.. I forgot...And yep, I'm a smoker.. If you go to a public restaurant where it is LAW in the US to have a non smoking and smoking section and you don't want smoke near your kids (meanwhile your choking on all the crap in our air) THEN DON'T SIT IN THE SMOKING SECTION.. and quit your whining. Once you have corrected all of the above then tell me what I can and can not do and where I can and can not do it..Until then I guess we'll all burn together eh?

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I dunno about you but I don't have kids and don't plan to have them. It's not the law, anywhere, to have a designated smoking area. It's up to the restaurant owner to decide. Most restaurants in Australia have no smoking areas at all. You want to smoke, you get the eff away from the premises. There are a lot of smokers in Australia, and in Queensland where I live - and I can tell you I've never once had smoke puffed near me anywhere in Brisbane because people don't need laws to tell them how to act in public and with courtesy to one another...

I guess it's different in the US and Europe... I guess we're a little more advanced as a society still.

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I'm in the uk, well Scotland to be more accurate. We have some of the cleanest sir, i am a smoker, but even if i am walking down the street. And i see someone walking towards me with either a stroller or very young child. I will do what i can to limit the smoke i expose said child too. Be that moving farther away from them or cupping my hand around the cigarette to funnel the smoke away. Would i have worded it the way alli did, well no. But it wouldn't have taken much for the person to move away from the table and smoke away from the kid, or put it out. For me its one thing to smoke around adults, but i do my best to avoid it around young children. Its not common sense, but should be common decency.. Also sorry for a long post, and any mistakes, its not easy typing on my phone. Just my two cents anyway.

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Sunny38 wrote:
Great_mmm2 wrote:The Fiji vlog was boring, but scenic.
Boring ? I thought it was good, not sure what you would have wanted to see :)
In the vlog I thought the water was beautiful, but I wasn't interested, for the most part, of what she had to say. I watched a few of of her other videos and I liked them, but that vlog bored me.

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NotSoSure wrote:OK then I guess there's a special place in hell for all you parents who allow your children to eat sugary fatty foods, sit in front of the TV all day while they turn into zombies watching endless violent shows or playing video games and there's a special place in hell for all of you who drink in your own homes or outside when your children are around because after all your senses are dimmed and your child could be in danger and you'd never realize it..Oh and theres a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to ride bikes, skateboards etc without helmets, knee pads, elbow pads, and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to play contact sports like football and soccer where the chances of a serious injury are very high and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to eat processed fast foods, non organic fruits and veggies loaded with pesticides, meats loaded with antibiotics and steroids, and by all means lets NOT forget the twisted yuppie thinking of "vaccines will kill my child so they aren't getting them" thereby bringing back diseases and viruses log gone because of vaccines....

Oh wait thats right.. None of these count because they don't harm your children and none of YOU would EVER do ANY of the above.. I forgot...And yep, I'm a smoker.. If you go to a public restaurant where it is LAW in the US to have a non smoking and smoking section and you don't want smoke near your kids (meanwhile your choking on all the crap in our air) THEN DON'T SIT IN THE SMOKING SECTION.. and quit your whining. Once you have corrected all of the above then tell me what I can and can not do and where I can and can not do it..Until then I guess we'll all burn together eh?
lol, and there you have it, a perfect example of what kind of IQ level a smoker has! You'll see things differently when you get lung cancer...which you deserve :)

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lol, and there you have it, a perfect example of what kind of IQ level a smoker has! You'll see things differently when you get lung cancer...which you deserve :)
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What in the even hell happened to this thread?

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I am not a smoker and I don't understand why anyone would light a cigarette in a restaurant but I would never say that they will end up in hell for it. That was a bit harsh as was telling someone they deserve lung cancer.^ :?
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IPL wrote:
NotSoSure wrote:OK then I guess there's a special place in hell for all you parents who allow your children to eat sugary fatty foods, sit in front of the TV all day while they turn into zombies watching endless violent shows or playing video games and there's a special place in hell for all of you who drink in your own homes or outside when your children are around because after all your senses are dimmed and your child could be in danger and you'd never realize it..Oh and theres a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to ride bikes, skateboards etc without helmets, knee pads, elbow pads, and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to play contact sports like football and soccer where the chances of a serious injury are very high and there's a special place in hell for all of you who allow your children to eat processed fast foods, non organic fruits and veggies loaded with pesticides, meats loaded with antibiotics and steroids, and by all means lets NOT forget the twisted yuppie thinking of "vaccines will kill my child so they aren't getting them" thereby bringing back diseases and viruses log gone because of vaccines....

Oh wait thats right.. None of these count because they don't harm your children and none of YOU would EVER do ANY of the above.. I forgot...And yep, I'm a smoker.. If you go to a public restaurant where it is LAW in the US to have a non smoking and smoking section and you don't want smoke near your kids (meanwhile your choking on all the crap in our air) THEN DON'T SIT IN THE SMOKING SECTION.. and quit your whining. Once you have corrected all of the above then tell me what I can and can not do and where I can and can not do it..Until then I guess we'll all burn together eh?
lol, and there you have it, a perfect example of what kind of IQ level a smoker has! You'll see things differently when you get lung cancer...which you deserve :)
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lol, and there you have it, a perfect example of what kind of IQ level a smoker has! You'll see things differently when you get lung cancer...which you deserve :)[/quote]

That is insulting and not necessary. I am a smoker and my iq is above 200, I'm a natural born smoker. My mother smoked while pregnant, thus leaving me with a craving for nicotine since vacating the womb. Yes if i continue smoking i lower my life expectancy. As does any other smoker, but to say to one or all smokers that we deserve lung cancer, is disgraceful. Please think before insulting every smoker here.

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Is that even a thing? "Natural born smoker"? Did you leave the womb and wanted to grab onto a cigarette the moment you could? I don't even understand the logic behind it. My mother smoked when she was pregnant with me. I was born after showing distress signs and her placenta was completely dry when she gave birth to me, my umbilical cord wrapped 4 times around my neck and had a knot in it - all because of her smoking while pregnant. I didn't smoke until I was 19, and it was socially... I never once had a craving for it. When I quit smoking I quit cold and never looked back.

Amazing the amount of excuses hard-core smokers come up with to justify a disgusting, selfish habit like that. As a past-smoker, I never made any excuses, maybe I had a better sense of responsibility. But being that I am a past-smoker, I just can't understand the weak-mindedness displayed by some of the smoker posters here... you're justifying harming others or picking up a habit and keeping up with it. Nothing justifies that.

You want to smoke? Do it at your own place. No one but you should be exposed to the toxins in a cigarette.

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nothingwrong wrote:Is that even a thing? "Natural born smoker"? Did you leave the womb and wanted to grab onto a cigarette the moment you could? I don't even understand the logic behind it. My mother smoked when she was pregnant with me. I was born after showing distress signs and her placenta was completely dry when she gave birth to me, my umbilical cord wrapped 4 times around my neck and had a knot in it - all because of her smoking while pregnant. I didn't smoke until I was 19, and it was socially... I never once had a craving for it. When I quit smoking I quit cold and never looked back.

Amazing the amount of excuses hard-core smokers come up with to justify a disgusting, selfish habit like that. As a past-smoker, I never made any excuses, maybe I had a better sense of responsibility. But being that I am a past-smoker, I just can't understand the weak-mindedness displayed by some of the smoker posters here... you're justifying harming others or picking up a habit and keeping up with it. Nothing justifies that.

You want to smoke? Do it at your own place. No one but you should be exposed to the toxins in a cigarette.
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plikity pop wrote:
Google gave me this:
Have you got something more recent, like an actual research that was done by scientists?

By the way, I know it sounds like I was being sarcastic about the whole "natural born smoker", which I slightly was, but I'm interested in knowing if it's an actual thing - because I've never heard of it and it sounds really far-fetched. I know babies who are born to mothers who do drugs grow with "cravings" and have to go through withdrawal after birth, however, nicotine is much different to heroine and cocaine and doesn't stay in the system that long, so it shouldn't create a craving later on in adulthood.
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nothingwrong wrote:
plikity pop wrote:
Google gave me this:
Have you got something more recent, like an actual research that was done by scientists?
lol no. I just thought it was funny. I doubt 'natural born smoker" is an actual thing

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