Luke Conard Part 3
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I had never heard of him until all this stuff blew up and I am just flabbergasted by how repulsive this guy is. And he has the worst taste in hats!
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^That video posted above when Ingrid and Luke weren't official yet shows how much she changed in the course of their relationship. She was bubbly and a bit more assertive (even if it may have been just a pretend cattiness), but later on - around 2012 to the end of their relationship - she developed this sort of stooped, hunched appearance, like she was making herself smaller. She lost that stoop soon after ending things with him.
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^ very true. her stooped shoulders, posture and demeanor were kinda folded into herself, in a defensive and protective stance. to me, that was proof of everything she lost in that relationship (ie, her self confidence).
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Yea regardless of if she felt like Luke emotionally abused her/manipulated (or if he actually did) you could tell she definitely felt "free" after the break up, judging from that no makeup video she did around that timeessyalways wrote:^ very true. her stooped shoulders, posture and demeanor were kinda folded into herself, in a defensive and protective stance. to me, that was proof of everything she lost in that relationship (ie, her self confidence).
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I wouldn't judge it based on the no makeup video. She's done at least three of those and she tells the same story in it every time. She just did that for the views. Plus she turned the exposure so high up that it wouldn't matter that she's not wearing makeup anyway.anonim0use wrote:Yea regardless of if she felt like Luke emotionally abused her/manipulated (or if he actually did) you could tell she definitely felt "free" after the break up, judging from that no makeup video she did around that timeessyalways wrote:^ very true. her stooped shoulders, posture and demeanor were kinda folded into herself, in a defensive and protective stance. to me, that was proof of everything she lost in that relationship (ie, her self confidence).
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So his and Kristina's cover of Can't is too much for me right now, it came on whilst my iPod was on shuffle. It's basically about being in a manipulative relationship, and Kristina sings the lines of the manipulator (it was not their song, it was written by Tom Milsom and Alan Lus-something or another). The words are hitting me hard.
"I can't dream vividly
While nightmares run wild
She locked, blocked and mocked my smile
He's been destroyed
Tears come falling from my trained toy
And with a sigh he can't say why
But he can't say goodbye"
Reverse the pronouns and you've basically described their relationship. Here's another good verse,
"I can't put into words
Just how she made me melt
She molded folded, pasted and cut
His edited heart was my favorite work of art
And it surprised him every day
They way I made him obey"
Again just reverse the pronouns and its basically the anthem to their relationship. Needless to say after this month's revelations I can no longer listen to their music in the same way.
"I can't dream vividly
While nightmares run wild
She locked, blocked and mocked my smile
He's been destroyed
Tears come falling from my trained toy
And with a sigh he can't say why
But he can't say goodbye"
Reverse the pronouns and you've basically described their relationship. Here's another good verse,
"I can't put into words
Just how she made me melt
She molded folded, pasted and cut
His edited heart was my favorite work of art
And it surprised him every day
They way I made him obey"
Again just reverse the pronouns and its basically the anthem to their relationship. Needless to say after this month's revelations I can no longer listen to their music in the same way.
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I'd never listened to their music before so ventured to their YouTube page. The last video 'Make your summer Green' (don't know how to embed, sorry) is just painful, I mean seriously, it seems like Kristina seems in actual pain (as we now know she was being forced to continue and in a good deal of emotional pain) and Luke's sideways glances at the camera make me shudder. The entire thing is so uncomfortable and for only 50 seconds long its remarkably hideous. Obviously it's some kind of sponsored deal or whatever but the forced 'environmental awareness' lyrics, gaaahhh and the autotune/production...don't even get me started on that cacophony. I guess people might not want to give Luke clicks, I have adblock, don't know how much of a difference that makes, but I can't help glimpsing this, it's fascinatingly awful.
Surely not all their music can be this bad? It's clearly the product of two people who are seriously uncomfortable working together.Because I also feel bad as if I'm getting some kind of perverse pleasure out of someone else's pain. That's obviously not my intention, but with the depth of her revelations I couldn't help but be curious to see what the output was like at the time, how obvious the cracks where etc Maybe its insensitive but when its all there on YouTube...
Surely not all their music can be this bad? It's clearly the product of two people who are seriously uncomfortable working together.Because I also feel bad as if I'm getting some kind of perverse pleasure out of someone else's pain. That's obviously not my intention, but with the depth of her revelations I couldn't help but be curious to see what the output was like at the time, how obvious the cracks where etc Maybe its insensitive but when its all there on YouTube...
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She actually had painful vocal nodes towards the end. Go look up their album b min/e on iTunes, that's their best work.horatio wrote:I'd never listened to their music before so ventured to their YouTube page. The last video 'Make your summer Green' (don't know how to embed, sorry) is just painful, I mean seriously, it seems like Kristina seems in actual pain (as we now know she was being forced to continue and in a good deal of emotional pain) and Luke's sideways glances at the camera make me shudder. The entire thing is so uncomfortable and for only 50 seconds long its remarkably hideous. Obviously it's some kind of sponsored deal or whatever but the forced 'environmental awareness' lyrics, gaaahhh and the autotune/production...don't even get me started on that cacophony. I guess people might not want to give Luke clicks, I have adblock, don't know how much of a difference that makes, but I can't help glimpsing this, it's fascinatingly awful.
Surely not all their music can be this bad? It's clearly the product of two people who are seriously uncomfortable working together.Because I also feel bad as if I'm getting some kind of perverse pleasure out of someone else's pain. That's obviously not my intention, but with the depth of her revelations I couldn't help but be curious to see what the output was like at the time, how obvious the cracks where etc Maybe its insensitive but when its all there on YouTube...
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His music production has gotten better. Luke had me fooled that Ingrid could sing. Then I saw this:horatio wrote:I'd never listened to their music before so ventured to their YouTube page. The last video 'Make your summer Green' (don't know how to embed, sorry) is just painful, I mean seriously, it seems like Kristina seems in actual pain (as we now know she was being forced to continue and in a good deal of emotional pain) and Luke's sideways glances at the camera make me shudder. The entire thing is so uncomfortable and for only 50 seconds long its remarkably hideous. Obviously it's some kind of sponsored deal or whatever but the forced 'environmental awareness' lyrics, gaaahhh and the autotune/production...don't even get me started on that cacophony. I guess people might not want to give Luke clicks, I have adblock, don't know how much of a difference that makes, but I can't help glimpsing this, it's fascinatingly awful.
Surely not all their music can be this bad? It's clearly the product of two people who are seriously uncomfortable working together.Because I also feel bad as if I'm getting some kind of perverse pleasure out of someone else's pain. That's obviously not my intention, but with the depth of her revelations I couldn't help but be curious to see what the output was like at the time, how obvious the cracks where etc Maybe its insensitive but when its all there on YouTube...
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Oh dear. It's a shame when people branch out so misguidedly like that. Ingrid is great at what she does but a singer she aint. Luke at the end 'that's the first time she's ever sung live', and the last, hopefully!
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If you don't like what Luke did, go post on Joey's video a comment admonishing Luke's involvement. A sleazeball like Luke doesn't deserve a platform for his music.
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His videos from Vlogmas this year are gone except for the one called empathy. Who's he kidding?
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Odd - I still see all his 2013 Vlogmas videos ... now admittedly he skipped a lot of days, but they are all still there:Tubular wrote:His videos from Vlogmas this year are gone except for the one called empathy. Who's he kidding?
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Maybe. I cleared my cache and rebooted and I still see them.Tubular wrote:Weird! None show up for me now. Maybe it's my phone?
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haha I had a snoop on his fb page and its interesting who is and isn't friends with in the youtube community- plus he has prof pics with kristina that go as far back as 2007/8
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Ugh, he always came across as a bit of a creeper to me. From him hanging out with basically kids, to the weird relationship dynamic with Ingrid. Mister Luke anyone?
Now all this manipulation and abusive behavior allegations. and even in his extremely long tumblr post, he never actually apologized. He said the word apology but never actually was like I'm sorry. And the whole thing was I, I , I, me, me, me.
And pretty much never took responsibility, just read this bit,
"The accusations of manipulation brought up in their posts left me feeling both confused and conflicted. If there were feelings of manipulation, they were surely based on a lack of communication, trust and insecurity; not coercion."
"lack of communication, trust and INSECURITY"?!!!!! And this said in such a way to imply that it was their fault.
Luke, you are a flipping creep. Get off youtube, get a effin real job, because your auto-tuned youtube thing is a joke. Only young naive girls, that you can manipulate watch your crap.
Alex Day, I too always thought was a freaking little weasel looking thing. First I heard of him was when he had that whole big girls shouldn't cosplay crap. These youtube events where some of these youtubers have an entourage or security..it's more like they need to have them for the subscribers who attend.
Now all this manipulation and abusive behavior allegations. and even in his extremely long tumblr post, he never actually apologized. He said the word apology but never actually was like I'm sorry. And the whole thing was I, I , I, me, me, me.
And pretty much never took responsibility, just read this bit,
"The accusations of manipulation brought up in their posts left me feeling both confused and conflicted. If there were feelings of manipulation, they were surely based on a lack of communication, trust and insecurity; not coercion."
"lack of communication, trust and INSECURITY"?!!!!! And this said in such a way to imply that it was their fault.
Luke, you are a flipping creep. Get off youtube, get a effin real job, because your auto-tuned youtube thing is a joke. Only young naive girls, that you can manipulate watch your crap.
Alex Day, I too always thought was a freaking little weasel looking thing. First I heard of him was when he had that whole big girls shouldn't cosplay crap. These youtube events where some of these youtubers have an entourage or security..it's more like they need to have them for the subscribers who attend.
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Luke really does have such a creepiness about him...I can't help but see him as that inappropriate 'uncle' character
Like, there's just something really unsettling about him. and pathetic, if he really thinks he'll ever have a music career worth mentioning.
Like, there's just something really unsettling about him. and pathetic, if he really thinks he'll ever have a music career worth mentioning.
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Plot twist: Luke Conard is MirandaSing's uncleGoldn wrote:Luke really does have such a creepiness about him...I can't help but see him as that inappropriate 'uncle' character
Like, there's just something really unsettling about him. and pathetic, if he really thinks he'll ever have a music career worth mentioning.
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anonim0use wrote:Plot twist: Luke Conard is MirandaSing's uncleGoldn wrote:Luke really does have such a creepiness about him...I can't help but see him as that inappropriate 'uncle' character
Like, there's just something really unsettling about him. and pathetic, if he really thinks he'll ever have a music career worth mentioning.
YESSSS I BET HE IS!!
Btw idk if thus has been discussed, but I've been gone from these boards for a while amd then I saw this Luke/Whitney/Kristina stuff and when I went to unfollow him on twitter, I happened to notice he doesn't follow Whitney on Twitter, but he follows Kristina., nor does she follow him. Is this new or have they unfollowed each other for a long time?