Luke Conard Part 3

[daddyoh]

you can identify as a lesbian but still have sex with a man, you know. sexuality is fluid that way.

[sandyfrink]

Obviously. You can have sex with whoever you want. That's not my point.

They were/are (idk anymore) dating apparently. That's why it's confusing she identifies as being lesbian rather than bi.

[sunshine21]

Obviously. You can have sex with whoever you want. That's not my point.

They were/are (idk anymore) dating apparently. That's why it's confusing she identifies as being lesbian rather than bi.

Maybe it was just friends with benefits.

[Vixenish]

I resolved not to act on it, of course, but when he confessed strong feelings of his own and pulled me into his bed two days before my 21st birthday (he was 30 at the time), I deeply regret to say I gave in.

I just want to say the fact that she says she 'gave in' to me sounds like coercion. She knows it shouldn't have happened but regretting that it happened and that it hurt her friend doesn't = 100% consent.

To me the only 100% consent is ENTHUSIASTIC YES. Not, "I don't want to.. *cue pestering by other person* ...fine."

We also don't know exactly what tactics Luke used that first time. She wasn't specific, but that doesn't mean it she initially said yes and it doesn't mean she wasn't coerced to a yes.

"Sometimes, it's really hard to identify if you've been, or are being, sexually coerced. You ARE being sexually coerced if the following behaviors are noted:
You don't feel you have a choice
You're being pressured constantly
You're being pressured even after you've said "no."
You face possible social consequences if you don't engage in a certain type of sexual behavior.
Someone uses their authority or power to get you to engage in sexual behaviors."

I'm pretty sure she meant she just "gave in" to her own desires...


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[sandyfrink]

I guess but if she were strictly a lesbian what would she gain from being friends with benefits? Seeing how if you are a lesbian you aren't attracted to men.

[anonim0use]

I guess but if she were strictly a lesbian what would she gain from being friends with benefits? Seeing how if you are a lesbian you aren't attracted to men.

Well I guess Mister Lewk does kind of look like a lesbian...?

[Pigeonski]

^Damn- does this mean that Tfxcdude (sp?) was right when he KEPT saying it?!

[Tubular]

A lesbian who likes casual sex sounds perfect for Luke! He's obviously not interested in a commitment of any kind.

Luke is well out of her preferred age range though...

[Rach2004]

Well I guess it wasn't too far fetched that Luke told Whitney Jacki was a lesbian... But obviously something happened since she was found in bed with Luke, she's probably experimenting and confused sexually ... She is still very young. Maybe Luke Manipulated her into being straight lol.

[Tubular]

Does anyone remember Tifany Alvord? I think she was sleeping with Luke at the same time of the end of Kristina/ Whitney/meeting Ingrid. There were a few awkward date vlogs.

[alexandriablue]

Does anyone remember Tifany Alvord? I think she was sleeping with Luke at the same time of the end of Kristina/ Whitney/meeting Ingrid. There were a few awkward date vlogs.

Ew. There were date vlogs? Wasn't Tiffany like 17-18 at the time? I didn't think anything happened between them but wasn't watching too closely.

[Hippo]

Well, the whole Jaki thing turned out to be weird. She's much more intriguing than I originally thought she was. Your emotional attraction and physical attraction doesn't necessarily have to be congruent. Meaning your could be sexually interested in both, but only romantically interested in one, but since she's "looking for casual sex" it seems odd that she would selected gay instead of bi if that's the case for her.

[fondueofyou]

Do any of you think Luke cheated on Ingrid while they were together? Especially since it seemed like they were pretty much attached at the hip... maybe it's the one relationship where he didn't cheat (even though he was still very manipulative).

[Hippo]

Cheating is clearly a pattern for Luke, so I doubt Ingrid was an exception.

[alcoholicferrets]

I think way earlier in the thread someone posted a screenshot of comments people left on Luke's video with Whitney...I went to check it...only 3 comments since Kristina and Whitney posted their stories...and all are basically victim-blaming Whitney/doubting the girls' stories/saying it's jealousy. So he went through the comments and deleted the ones against him...and chose to keep these. Wow, he must have really meant that apology! Keep it classy, Luke Conard.

Oh, and about the Tiffany Alvord thing...I posted about it in Luke's thread in Ingrid's section, but I think something might have happened. She seemed to have a crush on him and they acted flirty in their tour vlogs (her brother was there though, so hopefully nothing would have happened then.) There's a vlog of him hanging out with her alone (she's 17, he's 30...eek): [youtube][/youtube]
He was supposed to produce her album but then it didn't happen and they never mentioned one another again. This was before him and Ingrid were "official".
Plus I feel like he hooked up with that Annie girl...

[an0n]

Do any of you think Luke cheated on Ingrid while they were together? Especially since it seemed like they were pretty much attached at the hip... maybe it's the one relationship where he didn't cheat (even though he was still very manipulative).

I just really don't see when he would have had the time, they were seriously together there 24/7.

[angelaj0921]

Does anyone remember Tifany Alvord? I think she was sleeping with Luke at the same time of the end of Kristina/ Whitney/meeting Ingrid. There were a few awkward date vlogs.

Tiffany Alvord is an innocent little Mormon girl. I highly doubt they had sex. They were collaborating on music videos which is why I think they were in a few vlogs together. Plus, her mom seems to go with her everywhere or at least she did when she was younger. I don't think anything happened between her and Luke. I wouldn't doubt that she's still a virgin.

[Kleineganz]

I've been thinking - the last gift that Ingrid gave Luke before the breakup was a new bed. I wonder if there was some hidden meaning behind that?

[Heynow]

I've been thinking - the last gift that Ingrid gave Luke before the breakup was a new bed. I wonder if there was some hidden meaning behind that?

They seemed off long before his birthday and I suspected they were over at that time, but the whole buying him a bed was the ONLY thing that made me thing otherwise. Unless she bought it way beforehand, like she knew it would take a long time to be delivered.

[Snowflake]

Do any of you think Luke cheated on Ingrid while they were together? Especially since it seemed like they were pretty much attached at the hip... maybe it's the one relationship where he didn't cheat (even though he was still very manipulative).

True, but at the same time, he cheated on Whitney while she was at the same party..