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I used to be a huge Michelle Phan fan in the early days of Youtube because it was cool for me to see an Asian person, especially a woman, become so successful and become such a big name on Youtube, but after her fake manufactured bullshit videos, scammy brands, behavior towards fans, and white washing (as someone pointed out, she's back at it again with making the cartoon of herself white :roll: ), I bowed out.

So I went into this video with an open mind, ready to be brought back into the magic she once had, or at least SEEMED to have in the early days, and like someone said above me, I was with her for about 2 1/2 minutes until she started blaming everyone else, played the victim again about her lawsuits, said money made her depressed but ran off to one of the most expensive places on the planet, and at the end of this giant, dramatic video about ~happiness~ she has the balls to schlep her brand spanking new makeup line she's been working on when you know, she hasn't had any wifi living off the land in Switzerland..as usual with everything Michelle has done for the last few years, I'm calling bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. The last thing anyone ever wants to hear is a filthy rich person saying "money can't buy happiness".

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I thought Michelle drew her comic herself? How did people find out she wasn't the artist?
I was shocked to realize that someone else drew the whole Why I Left video... kind of odd when Mish has always talked about how she loves art. I would assume she would love to draw the content in her videos...

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Princeaqua wrote:I thought Michelle drew her comic herself? How did people find out she wasn't the artist?
I was shocked to realize that someone else drew the whole Why I Left video... kind of odd when Mish has always talked about how she loves art. I would assume she would love to draw the content in her videos...
It's stated in the description box. https://www.instagram.com/averyota

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Woah! I'm really impressed by her art
Michelle couldn't catch up to her talent in a lifetime!!
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Avery was the choice for the web comic and it wouldnt suprise me if avery was used in her previous videos as well. I also think that everything is partial truth and lies, most of the Public relations work done behind the scenes. KFD pubic relations team but i wonder whom were the previous team that worked with her before that.

I watched this thinking was it a joke or just another sob story for another sell using manipulation. the later came truth. The public 'persona' crap never worked on me & MP knows it. I sometimes wonder if she still has that video that the PR team took of me while she was in syd or not. Watch it MP if you have and seriously get back to me on it. I wanna know if you're going to accept responsibility and accountability or are you going to hide constantly and telling more fibs?
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"Why I left" = this as the total explanation...best described in pictures below!
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Oh and Michelle if you are here...if it took you to run away cause you couldnt handle the BS you had created and won't take responsibility or accountability and keep on hiding behind your crew cause you mentally can't handle it. Maybe its really time to hang up the awards on the shelf and be humble. Everyone can see the BS, they all knew it but just like you and your public persona they took it for granted and were in denial. Ya dont earn :respekt: by being a goofball, you earn it cause ya put the hard yards & proved it.

Ps don't self-diagnose, seriously see a psych before ya totally wreck yourself and maybe lay off the 'recreational fun'. Public persona or not but seeing character bleed while you were on stage in syd...i knew you were a wreck from the get go. Get yourself help.
There are many reasons for why Arissa is famous, but "looking like Michelle Phan" isn't one of them~Chiyou

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amuto_lover wrote:Woah! I'm really impressed by her art
Michelle couldn't catch up to her talent in a lifetime!!
I don't think Michelle has any natural drawing talent. If I remember wasn't she outed for tracing ? And her makeup skills were mediocre and only looked good on her..I won't discount her completely because her old videos were the blueprint into big production makeup tutorials for YouTube . But Her main talent is public perception and knowing how to get over on people


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amuto_lover wrote:Woah! I'm really impressed by her art
Michelle couldn't catch up to her talent in a lifetime!!
thats because Michelle thinks she can do 10 different things and be a well rounded artist at the same time, meanwhile professional artists are good because that's their focus and they work hard at it. It has 10% to do with talent and 90% to do with work and practice.

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All that meditation and you still can't control your aggressiveness.
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amuto_lover wrote:All that meditation and you still can't control your aggressiveness.
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I didn't find that aggressive.
I do wonder if its an ad because she is really not doing good enough marketing to say the brand has been relaunched for a couple months now . It woulda made more sense to release the video when the brand first launched. I also don't see many influencers doing reviews... Unless Asia is new main target audience


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amuto_lover wrote:All that meditation and you still can't control your aggressiveness.
This is funny. Does she really think that the criticisms were from people who had no context of her? Girl still making herself look like a fool.

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^^ right, She can preach continuously about meditation and being a student if life, but she hasn't changed at all. She continues to embarrass herself 10 years later. Is she doomed to have the mentality of a 12 year old for the rest of her life?

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I got a kick out of the implication that she would have become a DOCTOR if she hadn't "followed her dream" to go to art school. Come on. Michelle was in the right place at the right time and was likable and universally-appealing enough to make it big on Youtube, but she's not particularly smart. That was obvious in her early videos and it's still obvious now.

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She unprivated almost every video of hers! :O


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She only talked about being a 'student' and showed the picture of the book on plants so that when she launches her vegan beauty line she can look like she's super knowledgable on nature and plants, lol. That's why there was a whole part of the storyline dedicated to finding herself in nature. So that she can market her 'natural' products as something that is needed to find TRUE happiness and "feel beautiful".

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Am I the only one who's sick of her whole, 'I gave up being a doctor to chase my dreams!' I mean, that's complete bullshit. Just by listening to the way she forms her sentences and her beliefs and you can tell she isn't smart. I don't believe she would've been accepted into any medical school.

AND, the whole thing about not thinking about money as a kid. There is NO WAY a poor kid wouldn't think about money. Dude, when I was a kid I would freak out when we needed money for school trips (even if it was $2 or something). I wouldn't buy stuff even when I needed it and would be scared to ask my mum for money. If you're poor YOU WILL think about money. The thought is just there, lying behind every decision.

I only just found out that she didn't do the art in the video. Here I was thinking her proportions had improved. I do think that is her style though. Still laughing at the 'do you draw for wikihow comment.'

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Vill W wrote:Am I the only one who's sick of her whole, 'I gave up being a doctor to chase my dreams!' I mean, that's complete bullshit. Just by listening to the way she forms her sentences and her beliefs and you can tell she isn't smart. I don't believe she would've been accepted into any medical school.

AND, the whole thing about not thinking about money as a kid. There is NO WAY a poor kid wouldn't think about money. Dude, when I was a kid I would freak out when we needed money for school trips (even if it was $2 or something). I wouldn't buy stuff even when I needed it and would be scared to ask my mum for money. If you're poor YOU WILL think about money. The thought is just there, lying behind every decision.

I only just found out that she didn't do the art in the video. Here I was thinking her proportions had improved. I do think that is her style though. Still laughing at the 'do you draw for wikihow comment.'
The foundation of her success is built upon the illusion that she rose from nothing; essentially, she is making her life out to be the American Dream. It has all the right elements, if you think about it. Immigrant parents, the mother's struggle to raise them, the deadbeat father, rising up against the odds, blah blah blah...

What she fails to mention is the many people whom she used as stepping stones along the way, the people whose fanbase she clouted off, the uncredited editors/artists/writers behind the scenes. She has the nerve to complain that people are suing her because they wanted a piece when it was HER who used licensed material without obtaining the proper permission. Remember how she handled the music lawsuit? She 'founded' a music label out of spite; it was a childish knee jerk reaction that she was able to pull off because she had the resources and connections.

If it were any one of us who got sued for misusing licensed music, do you think we'd have been able to start a music label out of spite? Hell no! We'd have to pay reparations and settle out of court, and we'd be declaring bankruptcy! She has NO IDEA how fortunate she is. And that is what pisses me off. It's not the fact that she's rich that makes me resentful of her; it's the fact that she refuses to see that she has been afforded many privileges due to her massive following which we were once part of.

As for her claims of depression, I sympathize. But she doesn't get to use that as an excuse any longer for her bad behaviour. She literally can afford to seek treatment. She has enough resources to seek professional help at her leisure. She can have a therapist flown in any damn time. Most of us would KILL to be able to afford psychiatric help with such ease. Do not tell us that she is a victim in all this. It's bullshit.

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amuto_lover wrote:All that meditation and you still can't control your aggressiveness.
Oh this is just a word salad (I mean her comment, not your post). How does her comic being free serve as proof to this video not being an ad? It's not like she's a world renown, highly talented artist who makes their art publicly available to aid a cause. She sounds so arrogant.

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