Freelea/30 bananas a day

[Naldia]

Surprised with Casey doing this to other vegan bloggers with low subs account..the heck with youtubers stupid drama

[Reide]

The way I see it, Freelee does what she does because sometimes the loudest and more obnoxious voice gets heard over the logical ones. I feel she has the right heart but the wrong approach.

As For Cassey, her channel always annoyed me. I don't know if thats just because I am in the fitness industry of because I am vegan. But her channel urks me. I think Cassey may be trying to send a message, "Don't criticise me or else" and people like Freelee, and Richard aren't standing for it.

[Dandelion]

Oh God, yes, please let this bitch's channel get deleted.

[BeccaRain]

^ I've never heard of anyone who was vegan and stopped because they didn't want to be associated with Freelee. I do see people say they want to be vegan but Freelee turns them off but I find that to be a cop out anyway, if you really wanted to be vegan one annoying person wouldn't stop you, that's ridiculous and just an excuse.

And if people think there is only one way to do veganism that's on them, there are plenty of other youtubers and a ton of information out there, it's up to them to do their research.

I agree that someone who already is, or wants to be a vegan will find a different role model if Freelea puts them off. But it happens all the time that people are introduced to veganism by a person they are interested in, say a youtuber or blogger, and if they like and admire that person they may decide to give a vegan diet a try just because of this person. Someone like Freelea, on the other hand, is horrible enough to repel many people and give vegans a bad name. I know some people actually find Freelea inspiring but I think to most people she is a turn off because she is so vindictive and militant. It's a shame because she has a large following and could do much more for the cause. But ironically she does more damage than good.

I definitely agree. Unfortunately, so many people I know have been "turned off" or turned away from veganism because they associate it with Freelee and other well known vegans that are quote militant, aggressive, and judgmental. Because of that, they don't bother to look further into the lifestyle to actually find out how wonderful and important it is. That's the problem with Freelee seemingly being the "face" of veganism. Negativity and head on attacks may draw some people towards the lifestyle, but for most people, they need positive encouragement and informative facts to truly get involved rather than being told they're the scum of the earth just because they don't listen to Freelee. That's why I so love the vegans present on social media that have very positive and informative attitudes.

By the way - does Freelee really follow the Raw Till 4 diet anymore? I follow her on snapchat and a lot of the meals she posts (which are often earlier in the day than 4ish) aren't raw. I haven't watched her Youtube in a while to get any updates because most of her videos are her reposting other people's recipes just to get views or attacking other Youtubers/acting like the victim when someone criticizes her.

[Vaniaxo]

You know these fruit nuts have a messed up brain, they are cranky and think they are right about everything. I guarantee if they ate a little meat or at least went octo-lavo the cloudiness would lift and they wouldn't be such a=holes. Many people who have transitioned from vegan diets can attest to this.

And many who went vegan can attest to the opposite. So what is your point? Eating meat and eggs makes people nicer? No need to disrespect veganism just because you don't like Freelee.

[imnotfatimbigboned]

I respected Freelea until she started making videos about unhealthy people and ridiculing them for having that type of lifestyle and not being a vegan. Everyone is a grown ass adult and can chose their own life adventure as they see fit. Its not up to Freelea nor does she have a right to publically humiliate a person on a youtube platform as she has been doing for some time. She should have just stuck to vegan positivity and kept it all soap opera free and she wouldn't be having the problems she is having today. You reap what you sow and karma is no joke. Freelea gets what she deserves.

[Dandelion]

I really dislike the argument that people need the harsh treatment that Freelee gives non-vegans or struggling vegans to get the message and become better people. It's highly unlikely that such a strategy would have worked on Freelee herself years ago when she was eating animal products and struggling with obesity and other health issues. In fact Freelee wasn't fat and unhealthy because she wasn't a vegan, she was fat because she ate junkfood and didn't get any exercise (as many slim and healthy non-vegans of past and present prove). If some militant threatening vegan had come along and created ridiculing videos about her, she would probably just have shoved in another burger. Animal welfare is an urgent issue that people need to be much more conscious about but in my opinion Freelee is taking the wrong road.
What also annoys me about her is that she went from a strictly raw vegan diet to basically eating vegan fast food.

[bluelipstick]

I have always thought the militant approach wouldn't convert anyone to veganism but I gotta say that my approach of not being a 'preachy vegan' (I HATE that term) hasn't converted anyone. Freelee's has! I'm not a fan of the woman or her approach but she's converting more than I am!

I've so far managed to put my fiance off pork and lamb and that is it. If I get anywhere near talking passionately about veganism I get accused of being preachy, when I think I'm far from it. So I can't win.

[ughmygosh]

I have always thought the militant approach wouldn't convert anyone to veganism but I gotta say that my approach of not being a 'preachy vegan' (I HATE that term) hasn't converted anyone. Freelee's has! I'm not a fan of the woman or her approach but she's converting more than I am!

I've so far managed to put my fiance off pork and lamb and that is it. If I get anywhere near talking passionately about veganism I get accused of being preachy, when I think I'm far from it. So I can't win.

The difference is though, is that you're not talking to a thousands of teenage girls and making them feel like shit. Unless of course you do have a YT channel and you're as popular as Freelee is. The majority of her following are teenagers, and they're being pressured by her to take on the vegan lifestyle. It is still their own choice ultimately, but at that age, they are extremely vulnerable and don't like people judging them.

Non-preachy vegans are those who inform others, nicely, about the benefits of veganism and everything that goes alongside it. Vegans get preachy when they've already expressed their opinion, but then bang on about it all the time to the same their friends and family. It only needs saying once, unless a person asks about it thereafter.

There may well be facts that veganism is a healthier lifestyle, but people aren't going to make the choice to switch unless they want to. Knowing when to stop is key. As is knowing not to shame people for eating animal based products. Making people feel guilty about their choice of diet isn't okay.

That isn't a hit at you by the way, haha. Just putting forth my views of preachy and non preachy. I admire Vegans who are about informing, and they should be allowed to, and I will respectfully listen, but if I don't choose to take on the vegan lifestyle, then I expect the same kind of respect back, and also expect the topic to be dropped.

[Pinkstasiaa]

Did you see her vs TANA?

[Dandelion]

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[Mayhemisphere]

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Dandelion, whoever you are, thank you. I'm stuck here (still) writing that damn paper, the dog is apparently attached to my right knee, and my husband is driving us both bonkers because he's painting our bedroom and he forgot to buy some stuff he needs ("preparation", anyone? ).

You made me giggle.