I agree with you. I think she saw it as an opportunity to defend herself from the questions and criticisms about her loyalty as a friend. It was a big thing for Ingrid to come out and say she was gay, to be honest to herself and to others about that, but this doesn't automatically make her an honest person in every single aspect of her life. I still have huge doubts about her integrity and her sincerity. She seems to be a very self-centered person but because she acts and sounds so sweet, most people find it easy to believe her.sgirl1 wrote:Ingrid said that being in the closet/gay was the reason why she pushed female friends away, because she didn't want to get to close and fall for them.
IDGI though, as a heterosexual person, I'm not going to fall for every single male friend I get close to. Why does she think that being close to her female friends will make her fall in love with them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think she's using this as an excuse for her flakiness.
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that is so interesting to me for some reason!!!! it's interesting that it is natural that one would be more boyish while the other is more girlyFruitbatz2 wrote:The femme/butch thing is a real thing, they are not just made up terms that are meant to offend lesbians- these terms were actually created by lesbians.
Its meant to describe the dynamic between two people in a relationship. It's actually somewhat natural for one person to be more feminine and the other to be masculine... Getting offended by that won't change the psychology behind it.
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Phil just tweeted this which I found very interesting. I doubt he was talking about Ingrid specifically but he has a point
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Can't help but agree with Phil! Yes, it was huge to film that video and tell everyone what's actually been happening "behind the scenes" BUT it's not like the pope told us that piece of information! It's 2015, people are hetero, bisexual, gay... whatever. It's suppoused to be a normal thing by now, the coming out part I mean! Don't get me wrong, I was also shocked by her video, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. OK Ingrid, you're gay, I like men. Maybe you can fiiiiiiiiinally put off the fake personas, being weeeeird and all the other lying to us now!novlau wrote:
Phil just tweeted this which I found very interesting. I doubt he was talking about Ingrid specifically but he has a point
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Back to the "lipstick lesbian" convo going on, I took Hannah's reaction to Ingrid calling herself a "lipstick lesbian" more of a "hey you might change, labeling yourself right now is not a good idea." Hannah probably realizes that Ingrid labeling herself right when she comes out, especially to her 3 million subscribers and then changing could cause a lot of negativity.
That's just how I took her action, though.
That's just how I took her action, though.
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Quoted for truth.AlexVause wrote:Hi, lesbian in da houserorocutie wrote:but the thing is you're not lesbian...so why would it offend you? why would you assume it would offend lesbians? why don't you ask an ACTUAL lesbian? do you even know what that term means? do ANY of you know what that term means? i'm fairly sure its not offensive in any way. why are you y'all obsessing over the fact she said that; it was a fucking joke. maybe this is her attempting to become more comfortable with her sexuality.
Lipstick lesbian is a term in the community to denote girlier lesbians. It is not truly offensive at all.
However, I think that there is a certain frivolity that comes with the term. It feels like "putting on lipstick" is a choice and kind of makes it sound like being gay is choice. I think this is where Hannah's comment was coming from. Being a feminine lesbian is actually quite hard because people never truly believe you are gay.
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Like someone who isn't perceived to drink a lot declaring themselves a whiskey chick?ursamajor9 wrote:Back to the "lipstick lesbian" convo going on, I took Hannah's reaction to Ingrid calling herself a "lipstick lesbian" more of a "hey you might change, labeling yourself right now is not a good idea." Hannah probably realizes that Ingrid labeling herself right when she comes out, especially to her 3 million subscribers and then changing could cause a lot of negativity.
That's just how I took her action, though.
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okay most importantly, what's the new thread name going to be?
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Something like "Orange is the New Ingrid." But more clever than that.kayuhsee wrote:okay most importantly, what's the new thread name going to be?
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rosylittlegirl wrote:Excuse me, but as a part of the LGBTQ community, I can be offended by any of the terms I want. I am annoyed by the term of femme, as well. It's just adding more labels to an already overly-labeled part of society. Why we even have to be called lesbian or bisexual or straight is stupid. I am aware of what the term means and is used for. It is the fact someone who likes girls is expected to be masculine. That is what bothers me.rorocutie wrote:lipstick lesbian simply means "feminine lesbian", omfg. lesbians use it freely, why is it such a big deal to you? its not offensive in any way. its just another word for "femme", which is a feminine lesbian. jesusrosylittlegirl wrote:I honestly don't think she is full on lesbian. She, in my opinion, is bisexual, at most. I am bisexual, so before anyone lashes out at me at not knowing what I'm talking about, I actually do. Based on her video about how she got her first boyfriend, and how she said she liked him, approached him, felt nervous, etc. Also, I find some big inconsistencies in her video. She claims to have had sexual encounters with women. I wonder how, if she was SO frightened about her family/friends/etc. finding out, she felt comfortable to have encounters when she is such a public figure. I mean, really, she made E! News and was trending on facebook when her coming out video went up. She's popular enough (and has been for a while) that she realistically, if she was really closeted and terrified, shouldn't have had encounters like she claims. I don't think she has, otherwise, it would have likely gotten out. Even if it wouldn't have gotten out, according to her story, she would have been too terrified to even risk that happening. My mother is a psychologist and she has taught me a lot in my years. From everything I've gathered about her, she definitely has a personality disorder. Watching her old videos, I find in some her personality to be very similar to Blair Fowler, yet, now, she is more similar to the Meghan Rienks type of beauty guru. Two VERY different personalities. I got angry at the "lipstick lesbian." It implies that if you are a lesbian, you can't wear lipstick or be girly. Please. Also, addressing people saying that 3 or 4 is too young to have crushes, it's not. I had crushes strictly on boys from age 2 up. Then, my bisexuality started in puberty. If she developed her feelings towards women later on, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!!! I don't see why it would be. I still didn't choose to be bisexual, it happened on its own. It can still happen on its own at a later age without choosing it. When I "came out" as bisexual, I simply started dating a girl. Wasn't a big thing for me. My parents were furious, but I ended up marrying a man anyway so I guess they're pacified. I think it would have been easier for her youtube following to just find out via her dating a girl. She really made a bigger, more stressful deal for herself, if she is genuine about it. That's kind of why I tend to think she may not be, and this is one of her many personalities, since she claimed how scary it was, yet made a huge deal.
I find your posts so hypocritical (at least the two I've seen). You say you can be offended with whatever you want and say "because I am in the LCBT" community. Then you make a post saying how Ingrid probably isn't REALLY a lesbian and she is just Bi. As someone who is Bi I can't stand the amount of judgement from other gays, its freaking annoying. Either they say that Bi's aren't really TRUE gays or they specualte that if they dated men to hide who they truly are (as Ingrid SAYS she did) then they MUST be Bi. Give me a break . She is what she says she is and if you really are part of our community then you should learn to stop judging people because we get it enough from the rest of the world without needing it from our own group.
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rosylittlegirl wrote:Excuse me, but as a part of the LGBTQ community, I can be offended by any of the terms I want. I am annoyed by the term of femme, as well. It's just adding more labels to an already overly-labeled part of society. Why we even have to be called lesbian or bisexual or straight is stupid. I am aware of what the term means and is used for. It is the fact someone who likes girls is expected to be masculine. That is what bothers me.rorocutie wrote:lipstick lesbian simply means "feminine lesbian", omfg. lesbians use it freely, why is it such a big deal to you? its not offensive in any way. its just another word for "femme", which is a feminine lesbian. jesusrosylittlegirl wrote:I honestly don't think she is full on lesbian. She, in my opinion, is bisexual, at most. I am bisexual, so before anyone lashes out at me at not knowing what I'm talking about, I actually do. Based on her video about how she got her first boyfriend, and how she said she liked him, approached him, felt nervous, etc. Also, I find some big inconsistencies in her video. She claims to have had sexual encounters with women. I wonder how, if she was SO frightened about her family/friends/etc. finding out, she felt comfortable to have encounters when she is such a public figure. I mean, really, she made E! News and was trending on facebook when her coming out video went up. She's popular enough (and has been for a while) that she realistically, if she was really closeted and terrified, shouldn't have had encounters like she claims. I don't think she has, otherwise, it would have likely gotten out. Even if it wouldn't have gotten out, according to her story, she would have been too terrified to even risk that happening. My mother is a psychologist and she has taught me a lot in my years. From everything I've gathered about her, she definitely has a personality disorder. Watching her old videos, I find in some her personality to be very similar to Blair Fowler, yet, now, she is more similar to the Meghan Rienks type of beauty guru. Two VERY different personalities. I got angry at the "lipstick lesbian." It implies that if you are a lesbian, you can't wear lipstick or be girly. Please. Also, addressing people saying that 3 or 4 is too young to have crushes, it's not. I had crushes strictly on boys from age 2 up. Then, my bisexuality started in puberty. If she developed her feelings towards women later on, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!!! I don't see why it would be. I still didn't choose to be bisexual, it happened on its own. It can still happen on its own at a later age without choosing it. When I "came out" as bisexual, I simply started dating a girl. Wasn't a big thing for me. My parents were furious, but I ended up marrying a man anyway so I guess they're pacified. I think it would have been easier for her youtube following to just find out via her dating a girl. She really made a bigger, more stressful deal for herself, if she is genuine about it. That's kind of why I tend to think she may not be, and this is one of her many personalities, since she claimed how scary it was, yet made a huge deal.
I find your posts so hypocritical (at least the two I've seen). You say you can be offended with whatever you want and say "because I am in the LGBT" community. Then you make a post saying how Ingrid probably isn't REALLY a lesbian and she is just Bi. As someone who is Bi I can't stand the amount of judgement from other gays, its freaking annoying. Either they say that Bi's aren't really TRUE gays or they specualte that if they dated men to hide who they truly are (as Ingrid SAYS she did) then they MUST be Bi. Give me a break . She is what she says she is and if you really are part of our community then you should learn to stop judging people because we get it enough from the rest of the world without needing it from our own group.
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rosylittlegirl wrote:Excuse me, but as a part of the LGBTQ community, I can be offended by any of the terms I want. I am annoyed by the term of femme, as well. It's just adding more labels to an already overly-labeled part of society. Why we even have to be called lesbian or bisexual or straight is stupid. I am aware of what the term means and is used for. It is the fact someone who likes girls is expected to be masculine. That is what bothers me.rorocutie wrote:lipstick lesbian simply means "feminine lesbian", omfg. lesbians use it freely, why is it such a big deal to you? its not offensive in any way. its just another word for "femme", which is a feminine lesbian. jesusrosylittlegirl wrote:I honestly don't think she is full on lesbian. She, in my opinion, is bisexual, at most. I am bisexual, so before anyone lashes out at me at not knowing what I'm talking about, I actually do. Based on her video about how she got her first boyfriend, and how she said she liked him, approached him, felt nervous, etc. Also, I find some big inconsistencies in her video. She claims to have had sexual encounters with women. I wonder how, if she was SO frightened about her family/friends/etc. finding out, she felt comfortable to have encounters when she is such a public figure. I mean, really, she made E! News and was trending on facebook when her coming out video went up. She's popular enough (and has been for a while) that she realistically, if she was really closeted and terrified, shouldn't have had encounters like she claims. I don't think she has, otherwise, it would have likely gotten out. Even if it wouldn't have gotten out, according to her story, she would have been too terrified to even risk that happening. My mother is a psychologist and she has taught me a lot in my years. From everything I've gathered about her, she definitely has a personality disorder. Watching her old videos, I find in some her personality to be very similar to Blair Fowler, yet, now, she is more similar to the Meghan Rienks type of beauty guru. Two VERY different personalities. I got angry at the "lipstick lesbian." It implies that if you are a lesbian, you can't wear lipstick or be girly. Please. Also, addressing people saying that 3 or 4 is too young to have crushes, it's not. I had crushes strictly on boys from age 2 up. Then, my bisexuality started in puberty. If she developed her feelings towards women later on, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!!! I don't see why it would be. I still didn't choose to be bisexual, it happened on its own. It can still happen on its own at a later age without choosing it. When I "came out" as bisexual, I simply started dating a girl. Wasn't a big thing for me. My parents were furious, but I ended up marrying a man anyway so I guess they're pacified. I think it would have been easier for her youtube following to just find out via her dating a girl. She really made a bigger, more stressful deal for herself, if she is genuine about it. That's kind of why I tend to think she may not be, and this is one of her many personalities, since she claimed how scary it was, yet made a huge deal.
I find your posts so hypocritical (at least the two I've seen). You say you can be offended with whatever you want and say "because I am in the LGBT" community. Then you make a post saying how Ingrid probably isn't REALLY a lesbian and she is just Bi. As someone who is Bi I can't stand the amount of judgement from other gays, its freaking annoying. Either they say that Bi's aren't really TRUE gays or they specualte that if they dated men to hide who they truly are (as Ingrid SAYS she did) then they MUST be Bi. Give me a break . She is what she says she is and if you really are part of our community then you should learn to stop judging people because we get it enough from the rest of the world without needing it from our own group. So please, don't act so high and mighty when the post right before the one you posted above is full of judgement and hypocrisy. You tell others not to use terms (which they didn't even mean in a bad way) because the LGBT community gets judged by others, but then you judge a fellow LGBT by minimizing her feelings and what SHE is saying is her truth by saying that she MUST be Bi.....are you kidding me?
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haha kind of! Or like, someone who just started drinking declaring themselves a whiskey chick If you're a newbie, don't label yourself yet (or don't label yourself at all, ever, that'd be better lol)jMC125 wrote:Like someone who isn't perceived to drink a lot declaring themselves a whiskey chick?ursamajor9 wrote:Back to the "lipstick lesbian" convo going on, I took Hannah's reaction to Ingrid calling herself a "lipstick lesbian" more of a "hey you might change, labeling yourself right now is not a good idea." Hannah probably realizes that Ingrid labeling herself right when she comes out, especially to her 3 million subscribers and then changing could cause a lot of negativity.
That's just how I took her action, though.
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why the fuck are you so mad? do YOU see it as a bad thing that you are "just" bi (like you said) and not gay??
i don't think anyone wanted to offend YOU, it's not the fact that ingrid dated men in the past, it's the fact that people now assumed for months that she has a personality disorder or other mental illnesses and that she's unsure about herself a lot. and that MAYBE she will change again or isn't "just" into women but tries to convice and label herself like she did in the past.
and to you, no it's not a bad thing to be bi. get over it.
why the fuck are you so mad? do YOU see it as a bad thing that you are "just" bi (like you said) and not gay??
i don't think anyone wanted to offend YOU, it's not the fact that ingrid dated men in the past, it's the fact that people now assumed for months that she has a personality disorder or other mental illnesses and that she's unsure about herself a lot. and that MAYBE she will change again or isn't "just" into women but tries to convice and label herself like she did in the past.
and to you, no it's not a bad thing to be bi. get over it.
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Lol you must be new here. Ingrid says she's a lot of things. Including a whiskey girl. LOLHollyistheHater wrote:tps wrote:Well since you prefaced it with "her girly bubbly self," it sounds like you don't want her to "start dressing like a lesbian"HollyistheHater wrote:I get that "lipstick lesbian" is actually an ok term and Ingrid probably heard it from somewhere while I think it was Hanna's reaction to her saying it that threw everybody into a frenzy. However, on snapchat she gave all her friends "bae" nicknames or whatever (Carrie Rad was Baby-bae), but she decided to call herself "Gay bae" like?????? I honestly support her 110%, but it's like she's so desperate/excited to be labeled as a lesbian… as other people have mentioned, it makes it seem like she is trying to convince herself that she is gay which causes people to be skeptical and unsure, because Ingrid seems unsure. I really love Ingrid and her videos. I truly hope she stays her girly bubbly self and doesn't take this change to a whole new level like we have seem her do before.
Hope this made some sense to someone lol
Ps. You're forgetting that ingrid was quiet and reserved when she first started out. And she wasn't particularly girly (whatever that means) when she was with Luke. So, no, not one of the people who this made sense to, I guess.
uhhh? first of all there's no need to be rude. Second of all, what does being girly and bubbly have to do with dressing like a lesbian? I didn't say a word about how she dresses so idk what you're talking about. All I meant was I like Ingrid's makeup and fashion advice and I hope her new chapter in her life doesn't mean she will be leaving those things behind. Also, Ingrid has literally described herself as girly, bubbly, feminine, etc. so it's not like I pulled that description out of my ass or something.
Maybe stick to talking about Ingrid instead of criticizing people's opinions