So I decided to check out the podcast Uke was talking about.
Cry: "Are you saying you're faking it dawg?"
Ken: "Aw hell, you know when you gotta make a video with you crying and thanking everybody for subscribing to you but really you don't give A FUCK?"
SuperMaryFace - Part 9
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I dunno I think Youtube can be a good career choice if that line of work works for you and you know what you're doing. I wouldn't ever say all the people on there don't deserve money, but there's a LOT that don't. I do however think it's best to go into it with the mindset of this is just a hobby, that can potentially generate some extra income while having a main job, and if you are good at making it a full time career later without being a disingenuous asshole then that's great! It is entertainment after all and time is money, and if people are spending time making content they should be paid for it. Just like artists and musicians should be fairly paid for their work but are constantly undervalued because people think it should be cheap or free.
I mean, it's sorta like saying TV shouldn't pay actors and producers, but then I understand that requires a shit ton more work than what most Youtubers are producing. TV is just a bunch of ads too. BUT I also agree that Youtube would be better if it wasn't just filled with "I honestly 100% love this product that I'm never gonna be seen using again and you all should try it! Here's my affiliate code!". I missed the days of the BGs like Talia (RIP) and the early let's play channels and vids that weren't all sponsored and ad filled. I still think people deserve to be paid for their time, but there's a lot of YTers who put little effort and get more than they deserve and are the kind who complain about not wanting to work a second job while they sit on their ass putting out mediocre content. It's unfair to those who put effort in but don't have the subs/viewership. I dunno, I'm agreeing, but also disagreeing! I can see both sides.
Do I think Ken should be getting paid for his content? Yes, to some extent. He's putting out some content that people are obviously enjoying.
Do I think he should be getting as much as he is? No, because it's low effort uncaring content that takes him little to no time so it should be valued based on the time and effort spent.
Do I think he deserves the amount he gets for streams? Not really. He would be playing those games anyway and he's terrible at engaging from the few times I've seen and all he does is complain as if it's a chore! Have you seen his streams? I was watching one for an hour (it was painful) and he grunted a few times, was mostly silent and anytime he did speak he was bitching about anything and everything. When I watched his Danganronpa 2 stream all I ever heard was "teehee gonna ger yer panties guuuurl yeee" and then complaining constantly there was too much story and too much text! In a story and text based game! He was skipping parts because he'd finished reading or didn't think it was important! But you're streaming for entertainment for viewers and if you're not taking them into account why are you being paid for it?
Do I think they deserve all the Patreon money? Hell no. they are wrapping it up as being for the baby and whoring her out for the Patreon money. They should have been smart and saved wisely for their child and not rely on donations from other people.
Also Ken didn't care about the BroKen Podcast because he wasn't making money, lol. It's all he cares about. I'm glad Revelmode died because he didn't give a shit about that company (it was charity based for the most part), he just wanted to use it as a stepping stone to further his funds for stupid shit. At least the others have done some decent, creative and/or charitable work.
I mean, it's sorta like saying TV shouldn't pay actors and producers, but then I understand that requires a shit ton more work than what most Youtubers are producing. TV is just a bunch of ads too. BUT I also agree that Youtube would be better if it wasn't just filled with "I honestly 100% love this product that I'm never gonna be seen using again and you all should try it! Here's my affiliate code!". I missed the days of the BGs like Talia (RIP) and the early let's play channels and vids that weren't all sponsored and ad filled. I still think people deserve to be paid for their time, but there's a lot of YTers who put little effort and get more than they deserve and are the kind who complain about not wanting to work a second job while they sit on their ass putting out mediocre content. It's unfair to those who put effort in but don't have the subs/viewership. I dunno, I'm agreeing, but also disagreeing! I can see both sides.
Do I think Ken should be getting paid for his content? Yes, to some extent. He's putting out some content that people are obviously enjoying.
Do I think he should be getting as much as he is? No, because it's low effort uncaring content that takes him little to no time so it should be valued based on the time and effort spent.
Do I think he deserves the amount he gets for streams? Not really. He would be playing those games anyway and he's terrible at engaging from the few times I've seen and all he does is complain as if it's a chore! Have you seen his streams? I was watching one for an hour (it was painful) and he grunted a few times, was mostly silent and anytime he did speak he was bitching about anything and everything. When I watched his Danganronpa 2 stream all I ever heard was "teehee gonna ger yer panties guuuurl yeee" and then complaining constantly there was too much story and too much text! In a story and text based game! He was skipping parts because he'd finished reading or didn't think it was important! But you're streaming for entertainment for viewers and if you're not taking them into account why are you being paid for it?
Do I think they deserve all the Patreon money? Hell no. they are wrapping it up as being for the baby and whoring her out for the Patreon money. They should have been smart and saved wisely for their child and not rely on donations from other people.
Also Ken didn't care about the BroKen Podcast because he wasn't making money, lol. It's all he cares about. I'm glad Revelmode died because he didn't give a shit about that company (it was charity based for the most part), he just wanted to use it as a stepping stone to further his funds for stupid shit. At least the others have done some decent, creative and/or charitable work.
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Malaola I totally stand by your comment about youtube. Especially when it comes to beauty gurus (that's why guru gossip exists no?); beauty channels are useful sometimes but fuck the disguised ads man.
I legit think that pewds included Ken as a third wheel in the collabs starting 2013 because he was too embarrassed to play alone with cry too much lul (what with the pewdiecry shipping and all). Also thanks a lot for the retranscription of the wind-down. The thing that strikes me the most is how Ken started youtube mainly as a career/by opportunism. Creative jobs are difficult enough so if you don't do them out of passion and without the creative part either, then you are double f*ed. Ken got lucky with success for a limited time and it was a trap in the end.Uke wrote:
I agree, Cry is not stupid like that.
I don't think he had much to do with Ken in the first place and I know Ken sneaked (begged) into some streams here and there, but otherwise they're definetely not as close as Ken and Felix.
He is a moron 100%oliver wrote: And lol he doesn't know what to do now that he can't use boobs to get ad revenue for his channel? How fucking boring do you have to be.
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This basically just says it all, the thank you video was nothing but BS from both of them.midnight wrote:So I decided to check out the podcast Uke was talking about.
Cry: "Are you saying you're faking it dawg?"
Ken: "Aw hell, you know when you gotta make a video with you crying and thanking everybody for subscribing to you but really you don't give A FUCK?"
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It's basically a store clerk berating you when you're at checkout at the store they work at it's astonishing how much of a douchebag he is.
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I NEED THE LINK ! I want to see thatmidnight wrote:owadays really treat youtubers like their friends and things like that can be very painful for them
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So Mary is now putting Boss on her merch
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Can't say that I like the design
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Can't say that I like the design
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Guess they aren't giving Boss to a loving home if they can monetise him with merch now.
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No. She. Didn't. She doesn't even care about the poor thing!!! Ughhh!!!!PupPerfect wrote:So Mary is now putting Boss on her merch
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Putting all the animal abuse stuff aside, I really don't think that just owning a pet should be enough to make merch out of it. He barely shows up in any videos, he's nothing like a mascot (like edgar or chica) so for me there's really no point to make merch from that other than milking at its best.
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Yeah and they do that in general, I've never understood it. I've never understood Ben merch, or even Betty merch. And those are the two pets we see the most often, and still not that often, and never really doing anything exceptionally cute or being a huge positive part of a video. You see Ben when they're feeding or cleaning - there's one video of him "exploring" that's it, and Betty just kind of sits, downs, stays, speaks and eats. Edger and Chica kind of have "characters" on the channels of their owners. Betty just "is corgi", Ben just "is not-mean snake". That's it. I don't understand why they think actual strangers, apart from desperate teenage fans, actually want them on their shirts or bags or anything.
Shredder. Master Splinter. Jackie. Boss. Pancake.
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Because they don't have anything about them to actually put on merchandise, if they'd stay on brand it would have to be a picture of an actual asshole with 'yee yee' underneath.
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They seriously made merch of Boss!?!??!? Ugh I'm so angry, I guess this confirms they aren't even thinking of rehoming him anytime soon... Cause they can make money off him... Sad. Like I understand that Pewdiepie and Marzia have merch of their dogs (googled a bit and found that Marzia sells an Edgar T-shirt) cause we actually see their dogs a lot in their videos, especially Marzia's. The dogs' personalities are clear. And you know they actually spend time with their dogs and walk them and stuff. I think Ken and Mary only made videos of Boss when he was a puppy. :') And now he's just lonely in the yard..... the poor thing.
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Remember that they made Jackie and Betty shirts just before giving Jackie away. They just don't give a fuck And who blames them ? If people are stupid enough to buy their ugly probably made in China/Bangladesh/Thailand stuff
I wonder if Mary is even giving the artist a percentage of the sales. Notice how the artists are barely if not at all credited.
I wonder if Mary is even giving the artist a percentage of the sales. Notice how the artists are barely if not at all credited.
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(who the fuck is Ben?)
And well, I'm actually surprised there's not Layla merch yet.
Finding all dem ways to make money, without actually doing shit for it. (And yes I do hope so as Well that the artist gets some, but I kinda doubt it (probably only paid for the commission))
And well, I'm actually surprised there's not Layla merch yet.
Finding all dem ways to make money, without actually doing shit for it. (And yes I do hope so as Well that the artist gets some, but I kinda doubt it (probably only paid for the commission))
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God, imagine, merch with their actual CHILD. Wouldn't put it past them, but it's weird as all hellAnd well, I'm actually surprised there's not Layla merch yet.
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And yet she went on a rant on twitter about her photo of her shitty Poison Ivy cosplay not being credited.Notice how the artists are barely if not at all credited.
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Holy shit that cracked me upMalaola wrote:Because they don't have anything about them to actually put on merchandise, if they'd stay on brand it would have to be a picture of an actual asshole with 'yee yee' underneath.
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It feels like we all just migrate back to empathizing with Mary. Trying to appeal to her common sense one way or another. But truth is, this probably wont work until she hits rock bottom either mentally or physically.
There are already countless times where this circle of empathy happened, and as soon as Mary got actual wind of it she shut it down on one of the social medias by "how dare you" and so on.
She doesnt want to see her miserable life. She tries to save it desperately. Atleast i think thats what layla came from is. She just threw all her beliefs about being pregnant, wanting children and waiting to have them over board just because she is reaching for every straw by now to make herself that family home she longs to have.
To each their own. I also feel sorry for her, but im way beyond hope that she will ever take any of our comments to heart. She is just too childish, and she doesnt seem to have any reference to being mature in any way, in her life.
Just take her agreeing to kens sexual comments when she looks tired and exhausted or her starting to do that "hey sexy mumma gime those tiddies". I dont think she would be like that, if ken wouldnt constantly spur those lines. She just seems to adapt. Because she desperately tries to make it work.
Her whole life is a chaos. The house is the most cold hearted, dark place ive ever seen. (just like some of you said already about it being extra dark) i wouldnt want to live in there, even though its insanely big and could be such a paradise.
Their backyard is a rotten pile of dog shit.
Their relationship seems to be constantly swallowing the misbehaviour of the other.
She is so damn far away from family, and ken even makes it EXTRA hard for her to see them.
Her circle of friends is.. well.. you know it.
They have all these things that they mistreated one way or another and now they slowly start to go down the drain. Which is insanely sad to see given that they could have such a wonderful life.
Youtube breaking down or not. This life of them is going to crash down and burn hard if they dont start to figure things out. And i just feel so damn sorry for the little layla. She will have to carry the burden of those two not being honest to themselves.
Both of them just have no sense of reality. Both of them never had a sense of "normal life" like pewdiepie and marzia might have. Both had a path and a education that they finished that those two lack .
P.S: i agree completely with a content cop or something. How are we still the only ones that notice the cracks in their facade.
P.P.S: I saved the mental breakdown of ken. In case it gets deleted and they trie to make it seem like it never happened. Because i really cant believe that people will not get hurt or offended by him mocking hard working people.
How dare you give him the advice to get down his high horse. Jeesus. This manchild. I cant believe what i have seen in this video
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So the boom in views they got thanks to little Layla is already starting to decline: from 160k+ to what they get now, 80k. I'm pretty sure Mary can't pop another one out so soon, because human bodies don't work like that. The question is, what are they going to do now? Get another Ben? Another Boss? A new car? A new hair dye for Ken? New, new, new.
Meanwhile Ken's gaming vids struggle to get a consistent 50k.
It saddens me, because I actually used to watch him once in a while in the 2013/2014 era. And while I haven't tried, I'm sure I couldn't watch him now. What the hell happened to him?
Meanwhile Ken's gaming vids struggle to get a consistent 50k.
It saddens me, because I actually used to watch him once in a while in the 2013/2014 era. And while I haven't tried, I'm sure I couldn't watch him now. What the hell happened to him?
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I think he got us fooled, that's all. He was probably being fake for the camera all along and his ego was boosted from being a big youtuber so he was acting cocky and 'manly'. I thought he was having fun when I used to watch him years and years ago. But back then youtube was just starting to grow and I didn't know better. He didn't just suddenly morph into a shitty person. He was a shitty person all along but he was being actively enabled before and didn't have as much to show his true colors about.
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