SuperMaryFace

[VeniVediAmavi]

Pleeeeaaaase someone post Happy 21st birthday on mary's twitter/tumblr/youtube, i don't have a account.

[DeeZee]

It's so difficult because I'm 22 and I have no idea how teenagers feel about these subjects nowadays. I do remember how I felt and how I still feel today which is that the media uses a certain type of model (usually beautiful/sexy/white/young) when they want to sell a product, whatever that product is from toothpaste to cars. I've read and still read womens magazines and they're never going to put someone on the cover without photoshopping them to make them more likeable. Wether we like it or not, there are certain "features" that most people will think is beautiful or ugly (for instance we all prefer symmetry). I was and still am influenced by the media's perception of beauty. Now is that my own fault or theirs? That's the question.

I know there are people that tell Mary they now appreciate their own body more because of her. And that's awesome! But the most messages I see girls leaving on her pictures or videos are " I wish I looked like you". Does that mean Mary isn't allowed to be pretty, or show herself because it makes others insecure or unhappy about themselves? NO. But it does show the problem. I don't know what the solution to this is.
I also know for a fact that when I put on make-up or go on a diet it's not 100% just for me. And I can just hear all the feminazis going "NOO WHUT R U DOING, UR RUINING EVRYTHING". But I don't care if people know the truth which is that I want to think I am pretty but I also like others thinking I am pretty. Mary's always saying it is not a competition, but technically it is. We are all looking for a partner and we all go for someone who we not only love on the inside, but also on the OUTSIDE. People that say looks don't matter are wrong. Why do you think it's easier for attractive people to find a job? Because we all appreciate good looks. It's sad, but it's the truth.

Exactly!!!! Sarameingott I cannot believe I had to come to a gossip site to read something like this because it seems like no one nowadays wants to adress the issue clearly, Thank you for bringing this up.

This is a really important point!!! The way Mary and the other feminists talk about feminism and Objectification of Women makes it seem like women are completly asexual O.o and that is wrong. Women like sex and women also like attractive people (men or women) and it should be percieved like a wonderful thing, instead of making us return to the past where women cannot choose the person they are with (this is still true today in third world countries). People like to feel atractive and like to be considered atractive, especially by people they consider atractive (people who are "ugly" tend to be dismissed as "creeps")

Those who say that looks don't matter are wrong, because you will only be with someone you are atracted to...be it the eyes, smile, whatever...plus that is the thing you SEE first, and what gets you interested in that person first... personality is what makes the relashionship last. People should be more truthful instead of keeping up appearences with these types of fake morals that only help to make people overly concieted.

( Dressing in a curtain way to gain attention ( like I said before I don't think there's anything wrong with the way ANYONE wants to dress women or man ) or even necessarily wrong with the tactic being used as a advantage because c'mon guys you gotta live a little I absolutely love Jessica nigri but Jessica doesn't act like this and then play the feminist card only to justify her actions and pretend like shes not doing this. It's that she's blantantly using this tactic and ( Then playing the FENINIST CARD TO JUSTIFY HER ACTIONS )

I mean c'mon guys you don't like to see Jessica nigiri or Trisha? I mean if your offended by the way that they dress then you must be hella burnt when you see a vs show.

I'm sorry if it sounded like I was attacking you because that was not my intention. The point I was making is that people can dress however they like, I do it on a daily basis, but you shouldn't get all mad about a person commenting on your body if you're sharing these types of "sexy pictures" online, if you are free to do what you want then other people are too, unless they start following you around, trying to touch you without consent or offending you... I don't think pickup lines are wrong O.o unless they are plainly offensive and find it really stupid that Mary considers them "a reason for feminism".

I think it would be a lot easier if people started to respect other's choices and made an effort to not be so easily offended, because everyone kinda as it great in first world countries O.o We should fight for the women less fortunate, but complaining about body related comments on instagram pictures???...hummm, count me out Feminists.

As for the video O.o goddamm... I don't know what I was expecting but definitly not that.... there was something else that bothered me...

Mary says this a lot and I saw it on a comment by trisha... I hate it when people say "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"
So, no one is allowed to express negative opinions???? Except of course Mary and the other tumblr feminist that spread men hate like crazy, and Mary does even worse by even mistreating her fans...

People are FREE to state their opinions, negative or not.... If you can't handle it then DON'T TRY TO BE FAMOUS!!!!

Hey no it's cool I didn't think you personally were attacking me there were actually a bunch of comments I was referring to I said hey guys but that doesn't mean that I'm stating that my opinion is the only one that is right or that matters I was just giving my two cents and I felt that comment inparticular was focused on only in regard to the fact that I said that women should be allowed to wear what they want but I also said mary was using her body to gain money and fame and then using the feminist card to justify her actions not necessarily saying her actions are wrong example ( Jessica ) aw but I still love her videos ( Jessica's videos ) I was saying it's wrong for her to use this fake social justice personality to her advantage. That all really don't want to make anyone mad or start a dispute I'm just like you guys you know we're all doing the same thing here. Opinions and all.

I also said that I think she relishes in the attention putting her boobs butt in front of the camera gives her that being the ( fans girls being omg your so perf ) and ( creep guys saying she's hot ) I mean this is a tactic her and Ken use all to often so they know exactly what type of attention it is going to bring which is why again makes her a hypocrite and again shows her character for only using the feminist card to hide her true agenda.

[BunnyRanger]

Yeah I saw that comment too. I guess now we know where Mary got it from I understand if she doesn't like to hear people saying it's a terrible video, but not everyone is going to like it. And people not liking things is the only ''quality control'' we have. Maybe if you know what your fans like you can adjust your videos to that. You don't need to make videos that you don't like/want to make, I mean Youtubers don't make videos JUST for the viewers (even though Mary says she does). They have to enjoy it too, otherwise they wouldn't be able to do it for very long. But it's also their job, and I assume you would like to know what your viewers/fans like to see (because your job depends on it). You would want to know if they like it (so you can make more of these types of videos) BUT that automatically means you will hear it too if they don't like it. I mean c'mon what do youtubers expect? People can kiss their ass when they like a video but if they don't like it you're just supposed to shut up?

Yeah, that pretty much sums up their train of thought O.o it makes no sense that this is even a thing, it just speaks more and more about their lack of self confidence that any type of criticism just throws them off their game. Mary shows this perfectly because she flips with any type of comment that isn't kissing her ass, no matter if it's constructive criticism or not... I'm amazed that her channel managed to grow so much considering she doesn't take any opinions into consideration except her own O.o that's the power of boobs for you....

Ken seems to be the other end of the spectrum... so obsessed about getting views and being like the poods that he doesn't have any type of fun with his channel, maybe that's one of the reasons his depression just keeps getting worse and worse, apart from living with his worst nightmare, considering his last tweets...

[onlineprincess]

I bet you the birthday adventure is finally going out to a bar so she can purchase her own beer and actually drink it in public bc she's legal now

Also it probably took forever to convince Ken to actually leave the house. Is this the first time in like several months or what

[Sarameingott]

Yeah, that pretty much sums up their train of thought O.o it makes no sense that this is even a thing, it just speaks more and more about their lack of self confidence that any type of criticism just throws them off their game. Mary shows this perfectly because she flips with any type of comment that isn't kissing her ass, no matter if it's constructive criticism or not... I'm amazed that her channel managed to grow so much considering she doesn't take any opinions into consideration except her own O.o that's the power of boobs for you....

Ken seems to be the other end of the spectrum... so obsessed about getting views and being like the poods that he doesn't have any type of fun with his channel, maybe that's one of the reasons his depression just keeps getting worse and worse, apart from living with his worst nightmare, considering his last tweets...

Yep, it's insane. I wonder what that does to you, when you delete everything that doesn't sit well with you. Because you can't do that with real life, so maybe that's why they like that power so much. It creates this illusion that you are perfect. I feel like if you really were confident, you wouldn't feel the need to delete every negative opinion about you, because you simply don't care. Deleting everything bad just means you do care what people think of you (unless it's sexist/racist/homophobic/spam, because then you have a good reason).

Ken should try to drop his obsession with being as succesful as Pewds, because he's never going to get there, especially if he continues with being the way he is now. Atleast, that is what I think.

[Nimu Nimu]

I want them to last but it's painfully obvious he doesn't take her interests anywhere as seriously as she does. She keeps saying how much Ken has changed, but if the things he says on the BroKen podcast and the fact she has to run damage control everytime he says something is any indication...eh

Confident people are also able to tell the difference between constructive criticism and criticism for the sake of criticizing. If i got butthurt everytime someone gave me pointers on something, I'd be out of a job.

[smilingforsomething]

In Trish's video Mary doesn't have a 'model' face, all the other girls have angles and edges that are very naturally photogenic whereas Mary has a chubby puffy face, she knows her own angles though, in her birthday photo on instagram she looks really good, but in kens her forehead looks spotty and her face looks so round

[DeeZee]

Is it just me or does she look so unhappy in this Instagram picture or is it just me ( not even gonna talk about the try hard in this situation ) I feel like a puppeteer here at this point controlling their every move I move left they move right do we really matter to them that much? ( Strange ) to say the least.

[Sarameingott]

In Trish's video Mary doesn't have a 'model' face, all the other girls have angles and edges that are very naturally photogenic whereas Mary has a chubby puffy face, she knows her own angles though, in her birthday photo on instagram she looks really good, but in kens her forehead looks spotty and her face looks so round

I actually thought she looked really bad in her birthday photo, scary almost. Maybe because of the way the lines are when she smiles like that, in combination with that angle. I dunno. Maybe she lost some weight because her face looks smaller in some of her latest pictures. Or maybe she's stressed.
Anyway just shows that everyone has a different opinion about looks right

[Churro Churro]

Best birthday wishes Mary! I kinda liked Mary in the video, but she did look different from the other girls. However, I think if she was tanner and had different makeup she would have blended in. Not going to lie haha, the video entertained me.

[BunnyRanger]

Is it just me or does she look so unhappy in this Instagram picture or is it just me ( not even gonna talk about the try hard in this situation ) I feel like a puppeteer here at this point controlling their every move I move left they move right do we really matter to them that much? ( Strange ) to say the least.

It definitly looks a little bit forced, in both pictures (the one in her instagram and the one in ken's). She could be upset about not being able to go to Australia for her birthday like she planned before but it does give off the feeling that things aren't going that great for them O.o

I found it really funny too XD one day we're saying "Ken and Mary are so detached, they don't even put pictures with each other on instagram... Ken has no pictures of Mary, blablabla", the next there's a picture of them together in Mary's insta and one of Mary in ken's

It does seem like they are following our every move here... I see you guys v.v I see you.... (and Happy 21st birth day Mary, btw)

They could make an effort to learn from what we are saying here, but no... they'd rather try their hardest to prove us wrong imediatly after we say something here, it's just sad...

[DeeZee]

Hypocrites will never see themselves as hypocrites, that's what makes them hypocrites. They'll always have some sly answer if you confront them with it. Ken & Mary are constantly pointing out their own flaws in others. How about you practise what you preach for a change.

Oh gosh didn't realize I didn't fraise this right what I meant to say was their fans are never gonna know their complete hypocrites but it could be read either way I guess btw I'm terrible at writing no need to confirm it with me I already know haha.

[DeeZee]

I bet you the birthday adventure is finally going out to a bar so she can purchase her own beer and actually drink it in public bc she's legal now

Also it probably took forever to convince Ken to actually leave the house. Is this the first time in like several months or what

Oh that's probably why she cleaned the house she wanted to get on kens good side so she could get all she can from it being her birthday for a second there I thought Ken was putting her in check with his Twitter rant to remind her of her place and duties. Notice how he relishes in having her cook and clean for him everytime she does it he displays it more then her boobs well that says something haha a lot.

I think he is extremely obsessed with what FELIX has notice how marzia cooks for pewds? And the second mary shows up Ken screams to the highest chord Look Look mary cooks for me too! And she clean to! I'm just as talented as you now FELIX because I have what you have ( kens chain of thought )

I mean he can think that all he wants and say it to him self to but it's not gonna be the truth.

+ Anybody notice in one of their vlogs ( kens vlog channel ) Ken starts to put on show how it's sooo nice having someone else cook for you mary then goes on to say ( yeah it's nice having someone cook for you but ITS BETTER HAVING FREE FOOD ITS THE BEST FOOD YOULL EVER HAVE ) ( + Ken acting like this pisses Mary off she thinks she's above it and above Ken ) hint hint on to the ( fake / staged relationship suggestion ( I'll cook and clean for you ) you just set there and make me famous ) and so on with the fake / staged relationship money fame scheme.

Random thought about this Ken your house is always dirty and the food she makes always looks like crap i mean and that's just from what you showed us. + Why piss off the person that's preparing your food that's just stupid I bet you've had a couple of mysterious things in your food guess that would explain why it looks so strange.

+ Another thing ( Why ) are they still reading this I thought the crisis was averted here the nudes and lies passed by off the news along time ago ( is there something else their watching out for? Are they hiding something worse something they think could end them? ) ......................... Does the plot thicken? I mean Im betten my money on the porn-ish video I could be wrong but who knows just my chain of thought.

[BunnyRanger]

Oh lord, I'm gonna be that person, but I just saw the vlog and I feel for ken O.o

Mary keeps going to all these parties and ken is never in the picture, it's just so sad...

Thinking about the whole thing, him being very depressed/frustrated with his work because he wants to be like pewdiepie, moving to LA and hating it there, never getting out of the house (I went through this, didn't get out of my house for little under six months because of panic attacks) and the one person that should support and understand him is constantly going off to shoots and parties and collabs...

He has no family in LA, doesn't look like he has many (or rather any) friends there, and Mary is a LOT more interested in Mary than in his wellbeing... The only thing he has is youtube and the dogs O.o

Having depression myself I can say I know what it feels like, but thankfully my boyfriend is very understanding of my situation, he never forced me to go to the clubs and stuff he likes, but started to go out with me to nice bars with live music and not that many people so that I wouldn't get bad anxiety... He helped me get a lot better....

Mary is doing nothing of that sort to Ken...She's just rubbing his face into all the things he cannot do...

Also, I am a firm believer that a relashionship is based off of trust, but it always has a little bit of jealousy from both parts that shows you care and are afraid of losing each other... There is nothing like that between Mary and Ken O.o Mary seems a lot more jealous of other women's looks (the whole thing with kalel and her comments about the other women on Trisha's video) and ken seems like he really doesn't give a crap about her O.o he doesn't care that her photographer sends her pick me up gifts and seems to care more about her than her own boyfriend? He doesn't care that she goes alone to a lot of "Youtuber" parties lately and his meeting a lot of new interesting people? Even "Youtube successful people"?

This just screams "Faked Relashionship for Cash" to me... No couple in love is that uncaring about each other...

edit: Comparing Mary and Ken to Pewds and Marzia the diference is so clear... Marzia and Pewds have such lovely chemistry on camera and it is plain to see that they care about each other, plus they have their goofyness in common. It's adorable to watch them both, unlike ken and Mary that seem so cold towards one another O.o

[DeeZee]

Why does the eyebrow point down ? ? ?


FELIX ! revert back to your old ways gosh what in the actual hell is so special about Ken im literally wondering.


Anyways back to the whole song and dance the thing about marzia and felix like I said before I think felix had help in his crusade to the top maybe not entirely but I think there was some help you know just judging by the way ( They ) have talked about it publicly and ya know well it's possible and all well hell then it's possible that ( I know imma get hate for this STAND DOWN MEN!!! ) Felix and marzia relationship is staged to. ( you don't have to respond to this in a nagitive way I know your place no need to attack me keyboard warriors don't worry this suggestion is not going to some how effect marzia or Felix ) so don't even go there but keeping with the theory that this is infact a thing ( the suggestion made about Mary and Ken ) then we'll you can't just blindly only see Ken and mary you have to look at youtube in general ( I mean if your gonna pick up on one strange thing then your gonna on another )

Not saying I'm right about Felix and marzia mostly I think they just have a open relationship but that's kind of a strange assumption but it's just little things I've picked up on.


Anyways yeah if there's a staged relationship out the it's definitely Ken and Mary but you can't really believe that this is the only dirty laundry out in terms of youtubers.

P.S I still watch and love watching Felix and marzia I just think they don't film their personal lives that much and are more private with good reason we are stalkers! Haha not really but okay maybe a little bit maybe more then a little bit.

[onlineprincess]

Try not to attack the looks/appearance, guys. It really makes us look ignorant and it invalidates anything we've said about her being fake feminist because we're being the same way

But oh my gosh, isn't it so funny that she's ignoring Trisha's video completely right now?
Like, she was practically counting down to Shane's video that she was featured as a background character in. She fucking shared the video on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook when it came out and has begged multiple times in his comment section to let her be in it if he decides to do another one of those videos.

Yet she didn't share any links or photos or anything when this music video comes out??

Could it be because Shane's video did pretty well in rating/views but Trisha's music video didn't do so well? (as of right now, it's at 8k likes 7k dislikes) Apparently Mary doesn't want to be famous and does all this for fun yet she won't acknowledge when she's in Trisha's failed music video?? No hunny. im not happy.

and you could say it's because Trisha's video has a negative message that she doesn't want to expose to her fans but Shane's video was honestly way more inappropriate. Trisha just had revealing outfits, it barley even had any sexy dancing tbh(both of which she said is alright anyway bc feminism) Shane's video had rape jokes, child porn jokes, teacher/student kink (like Trisha's video) ,simulated sex, jokes about lesbians and probably more that I can't think of. But mary didn't mind any of that. She promoted the shit out of that video.

She isn't saying anything about being in Trisha's video because, whether she will admit it or not, she's in it for the fame and she doesn't want to be associated with Trisha's tanked music video

Funny that she's a big fan of Trisha until she no longer has anything to offer her. Did we not totally call that she was gonna use Trisha tho?

[DeeZee]

Oh I wasn't making fun of her looks I was just wondering why her eyebrow went down past the point of her hair but I understand what your saying.

[DeeZee]

Oh I wasn't making fun of her looks I was just wondering why her eyebrow went down past the point of her hair but I understand what your saying.

Try not to attack the looks/appearance, guys. It really makes us look ignorant and it invalidates anything we've said about her being fake feminist because we're being the same way

But oh my gosh, isn't it so funny that she's ignoring Trisha's video completely right now?
Like, she was practically counting down to Shane's video that she was featured as a background character in. She fucking shared the video on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook when it came out and has begged multiple times in his comment section to let her be in it if he decides to do another one of those videos.

Yet she didn't share any links or photos or anything when this music video comes out??

Could it be because Shane's video did pretty well in rating/views but Trisha's music video didn't do so well? (as of right now, it's at 8k likes 7k dislikes) Apparently Mary doesn't want to be famous and does all this for fun yet she won't acknowledge when she's in Trisha's failed music video?? No hunny. im not happy.

and you could say it's because Trisha's video has a negative message that she doesn't want to expose to her fans but Shane's video was honestly way more inappropriate. Trisha just had revealing outfits, it barley even had any sexy dancing tbh(both of which she said is alright anyway bc feminism) Shane's video had rape jokes, child porn jokes, teacher/student kink (like Trisha's video) ,simulated sex, jokes about lesbians and probably more that I can't think of. But mary didn't mind any of that. She promoted the shit out of that video.

She isn't saying anything about being in Trisha's video because, whether she will admit it or not, she's in it for the fame and she doesn't want to be associated with Trisha's tanked music video

Funny that she's a big fan of Trisha until she no longer has anything to offer her. Did we not totally call that she was gonna use Trisha tho?

I think but I'm not sure just a small assumption when Trisha was talking in her latest vlog she said "random this person just texts me Happy president day or something like that Trisha went on to say why would you text someone that? And said this person really doesn't matter I'm not close to them or care about them "

I maybe wrong about this but the whole Happy presidents day thing sounds like mary to a t in her kiss ass tactics and so on but like I said ( I could be wrong ) ........maybe Trisha read this thread? I think someone said she reads / checks this site.

Haha maybe I'm looking to far into this but it's very strange that she would completely ignore the opportunity regardless of the fact that this would contradict her ( she has made it obvious she doesn't mind doing this ( contradicting herself ) if it means possible exposure so why wouldn't she take this opportunity ? ? ? )

[Sarameingott]

I can only speculate about the things Ken & Mary don't share with everybody. I can only have an opinion on things they do decide to share with us. They decided to share part of their lives with us, through Kenvlog. But that doesn't mean that what we see in those vlogs, is ALL there is to see. They probably don't share everything, and they don't have to. If what we see in the vlogs is really all there is, then we still might be wrong about what we think we see.

Mary & Ken are partners (some of us think it's real, others think it's fake), but either way, they can be partners and still have their own lives. Maybe Mary likes going to parties, going out, meeting people in real life. That doesn't mean Ken has to like those things too.

And Ken probably likes staying inside. Youtube is his life. It's his work, it's where he met a lot of his friends, it's what he likes to do. Even though I think it's dangerous to stay inside all the time when you're depressed (even if you have a lot of online friends), maybe that's where he feels comfortable. And that doesn't mean Mary has to stay inside all day too.

Ken is an adult. He can make his own decisions. There is really no reason at all for any of us to feel sorry for him. Even if he suffers from depression. He is still the one who decides what happens with his life and if he will allow himself to be happy or not or seek help or not. Mary can't force him to go outside if he doesn't want to. *Edit: and that doesn't mean she has to stay inside too.

[Eastsiderider]

Yeah, I think it's hard to understand that Ken is over 25-years old, at least I think of him constantly being the same age as Mary. Unfortunately, one of the symptoms of depression is that person can become remarkably more lethargic. It's not about will, necessarily, that he doesn't want to do anything. Idk what's their situation medication and counseling wise, but I would imagine that a gradual approach to going out, doing stuff etc. would help tremendously. Also it's just basic life managing skills to keep to a routine, even if your bedroom is your office. Having routines stables the mind and it's been researched that esp. problems kids and teens are having can be helped with a constructed routine. Nobody is to say how he should treat himself other than himself and Mary should do as it is the best to support him. We know nothing about those issues between them, if there is some or if there isn't. Social exclusion or alienation can happen even if a person has a partner, everybody has a "lifestyle" but what's considered a healthy and constructive one, can be debated. If one plays a lot of games, rarely goes out and socializes outside his or her family but still maintains an upbeat attitude towards life, then we can maybe say that that lifestyle suits him or her. However if a person is unhappy in his life and there's something to improve about, then they should do it, in their best interest.

We also don't know whether Ken's deppression is diagnosed, is it self-diagnosed, when it was diagnosed, is it mainly due to chemical change (that can be drawn to stem from outside a person's body) or what... I think it's natural to feel empathy towards someone who seems to be having a hard time, no matter how "adult" and "incharge" that person is. We can't know is it something they have control over or not. We don't know what Mary does or doesn't do to help him; we don't know if he wants to be helped.