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chocolate_eclair wrote:Elmox ppl like u is why no one likes vegans lol
Haha, please elaborate? I'm not vegan...

'No food should be demonised or completely stricken from your diet (unless you have a true diagnosed illness).' I was saying that's wrong, and it is.

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staedtler wrote:Honestly I gotta agree with Elmox. I would rather have my own kid look up to Niomi and try to eat healthier like her. The second my hypothetical kid would start eating like Zoella, I would send them to a doctor so they can be told what will happen when there is too much fat around your organs from constant pizza. At the end of the day we are speculating about her ED which I'm pretty sure is against the rules. I doubt she has an ED, she just cares what she puts in her body.

Coincidently, some of my "friends" tell me I might have ED. Those are people who know that their diet is unhealthy and just want to take it out on me. At the end of the day, Niomi's health is her concern and her GP's.
Tbh I wonder if she has an ED because I myself have an ED and I see many of my unhealthy and obsessive behaviors in her. I'm just worried, thats all. EDs are horrible and I wish nobody had to suffer them

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Enough with the eating disorder crap.
So in new video she says poppy and Sean sent her flowers, am i only one that finds that odd? it just struck me as odd, i dont see them being friends really and i get being nice and supportive but it just says hey look at us. it felt forced her mentioning they sent them too.

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ParkourOneMan wrote:Enough with the eating disorder crap.
So in new video she says poppy and Sean sent her flowers, am i only one that finds that odd? it just struck me as odd, i dont see them being friends really and i get being nice and supportive but it just says hey look at us. it felt forced her mentioning they sent them too.
It is probably them apologizing for not being able to make it to her launch party. I know Zoe (and Alfie) sent her one, Zoe wasn't there - surprise, surprise, but it was nice of Alfie to go...then again, he would welcome any excuse to get away from Zoe.

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seems like a lot of people are putting their own eating issues into the foray.

I think it's really bad that they didn't go to her launch. It just shows what that lot are all about. THEMSELVES. Remember a time when they'd all show up for each others milestones/launches...

Oh , and i second that thumbnail pose thing. I HATE how forced she looks in them.
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Zoe, the effing queen b and head mean girl of YT is not able to go out of the house for anything that is not about her. So I'm not surprised she didn't show up for Niomi. She actually did the same thing to Tanya. If nothing, I gotta give credit to Niomi always being a lady, showing up and behaving her age!

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marcus put up a new video of his new gf and him in Mykonos... the new gf looks so like niomi..

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pugzjen wrote:marcus put up a new video of his new gf and him in Mykonos... the new gf looks so like niomi..
niomi is prettier than her imo.
I hope niomi will find a great man and be happy too. she doesn't need a boyfriend to be happy I know but everyone needs love, right... esp niomi after someone like marcus lol.
btw I don't understand some people here who claim his new girl is 'better' than niomi and insist niomi tries to 'compete' with her. this is not even 'trashing'... this is just nasty.

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Wow, that Mykonos Summer 2016 video is pure cringe. They are trying to copy people like Jay Alvarrez and Alexis Ren, except it's been done before and done much better. I always thought Marcus was fairly good looking but he's not hot enough for these kinds of videos. He looks like a dick with his bleached hair in dumb styles. He and Stefanie are far too keen on showing themselves and each other off. It's as if they've both been waiting for a partner to show off and do Instagram posts and holiday vlogs with. I'm surprised Marcus is doing this. He has just been through a (I presume) painful break up, now he's showing off his new love in blatant ways. This could backfire in their faces big time. I used to think Stefanie was a sweet girl but all this swinging her hair, prancing around like a model, and triumphantly acting out happy love scenes with her new hot partner is painful to watch and shows her in a very bad light. You would think they would rather share their happiness with each other and keep it private instead of parading it around. It seems kind of desperate.

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Dandelion wrote:Wow, that Mykonos Summer 2016 video is pure cringe. They are trying to copy people like Jay Alvarrez and Alexis Ren, except it's been done before and done much better. I always thought Marcus was fairly good looking but he's not hot enough for these kinds of videos. He looks like a dick with his bleached hair in dumb styles. He and Stefanie are far too keen on showing themselves and each other off. It's as if they've both been waiting for a partner to show off and do Instagram posts and holiday vlogs with. I'm surprised Marcus is doing this. He has just been through a (I presume) painful break up, now he's showing off his new love in blatant ways. This could backfire in their faces big time. I used to think Stefanie was a sweet girl but all this swinging her hair, prancing around like a model, and triumphantly acting out happy love scenes with her new hot partner is painful to watch and shows her in a very bad light. You would think they would rather share their happiness with each other and keep it private instead of parading it around. It seems kind of desperate.
I know this isn't Marcus' thread, but I had to go watch it, and wow, it's so much cringe. Everything just looks so "put on". I didn't think Marcus looked particularly good before, but he really looks bad with the bleached hair.
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On a completely different note, what information do we actually have about Niomi's parents? I saw on Wikitubia that her Mum's name is Verity and her Dad's name is Roland, and I know her Mum had her at 19 or something, but I've always wondered what they did for a living since they are so well-off. Has she ever talked about her Dad? I'm guessing her parents divorced when she was little because I don't think I've ever heard her mention him.
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Eh, Sawyer Hartman has done videos similar before. Emulating Jay and Alexis is fine and well (bubbles bursts eventually now they are broken up) and viewers love seeing that "perfect" lifestyle.

Bringing it back to Niomi though I loved her whole look for the book launch, goodness me.
I'm also wondering if her and Tanya had the same editor/publisher etc? Would that all have been arranged by Gleam? Only because I think last I saw Tanya's book had some errors.

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starviolet wrote:
elmox wrote:
starviolet wrote:To me there's no glimmer of doubt that she has an eating disorder. As someone who's had one too, it struck me immediately with her. An eating disorder is not just about how thin (or not) you look. It's her perception of food, and there's definitely a lot wrong with how she thinks about food. I'm sure it's all she thinks about. There are no foods that are 'bad' for you, as we all know it's all about moderation and frequency. No food should be demonised or completely stricken from your diet (unless you have a true diagnosed illness). I don't mean that about the vegan diet as such, that's something else (I don't want to start a vegan debate), but I have noticed another vegan youtuber with an eating disorder as well who demonises non-vegan food. It's definitely a phenomenon.

Oh and her posing in thumbnails is painfully awkward, she should quit.
Who are you to say that no food should be completely stricken from someone else's diet? It's completely her choice and not unhealthy. As long as she's getting enough vitamins/nutrients there's no problem. I've met Niomi and she looks great. She doesn't get preachy about eating vegan/plant-based and she recently ran a marathon and wrote a cookbook so health is going to be a huge part of her life right now. Also, I think so many people are overweight now that it's seen as normal and that's not right.
Lol my post is just that, an opinion, what I believe is true, just like yours is an opinion too and I can take it or leave it. That speaks for itself..

I agree that she doesn't preach and that's great, but it's worrying to see someone with an ED, imo, with a big audience like that, possibly influencing young girls into a fear of certain foods. She spreads a lot of good info about how to be healthy, but perhaps not just that.

I completely, 100% agree. I have also had an ED and then subsequently worked a lot with young women with eating disorders. While I acknowledge it is difficult to diagnose someone just through 'watching' them in this way, it's so clear to anyone with knowledge of the disorder that Niomi so clearly suffers from an ED and I find it so, so uncomfortable that she has been given the platform to hawk eating 'tips' to young women. Toxic habits with food and eating is much harder to detect in today's society because we have become obsessed with diets that are peddled as lifestyles and the treating of certain foods as poison or 'off limits'. This is mainstream now, lauded as the ideal way to live and eat. I'm so thankful that I started to recover from my ED *just* before the gluten free/paleo/etc fads hit the mainstream, or else I have little doubt that I would NOT have recovered and would've gone further down that hole of self-destruction. I see SO many common habits, tricks, and behaviours mirrored in Niomi, that I feel a lot of sympathy but also disgust that she is being encouraged and given this platform, and that people are so hypnotized by the idea of "health" and "good food" that they say they'd say they'd rather their own daughters be trapped into this toxic pseudo health lifestyle rather than be "fat" or "obese". It is correct that if not for the reason of an allergy or complete intolerance (which can include a genuine distaste for the taste or texture of course) to a food, to refuse completely to ever under any circumstances let that food cross your lips because you think it is "unhealthy" is a clear signal of a disordered mind.

Didn't Marcus also recently allude to really messed up eating behaviour that he engaged in, how it robbed him of joy, made him unhealthy, and his family was concerned about him? This was clearly in reference to his time /w/ Niomi and it's evident in watching earlier vlogs of Marcus. I remember one in particular where they were on a boys trip skiing-- the guys were making constant references to Marcus' health obsession, how he clearly wouldn't eat this or that. One morning there was an issue with the breakfast and they all had to stop at a bakery. Marcus was forced to get some sort of pizza bun thing and he was saying "This is my worst nightmare". To a casual observer he might've just looked dejected in the way one would when eating a breakfast they didn't prefer. But I recognized that genuine terror in his face-- he literally looked like he might cry. If it were Niomi, I would bet that she either wouldn't eat breakfast at all or would've pre-packed all her meals before going on vacation. Anyone can eat healthy and should-- that is what I myself do now, for most of the time. But I can also enjoy a spontaneous stop at a cafe for a scone without the fear and anxiety and planning, I can grab an "undesirable" meal at an airport if my flight is delayed and there is nothing else to eat, and I can join my friends at a restaurant without checking the menu a million times online and then spending days restricting and compensating for the amount of sodium in my salad. I have no doubt that Niomi cannot do any of those things.

I feel bad for Niomi in that her choices are so clearly being validated and if there is a recovery for her, it is years and years away. I'm sure people will react poorly to this but I think as many people that can speak out should do so, because I know what being young and impressionable and seeking advice from people from Niomi is like, and if these words can get out there then maybe it can help someone.

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I completely agree, Lamour88. I don't believe in this whole clean eating thing at all, not eating dairy or meat is not going to give you superhuman characteristics, your body will just adapt to it. I think people think that humans have a natural diet of fruits and vegetables which we should aspire to emulate when really we don't, we have evolved to be able to sustain on whatever is available. You wouldn't have caught some cave man fretting because there was no quinoa or chia seeds. I wish people who chat shit about nutrition would actually study nutrition and have some type of knowledge of human physiology and biology because it's really uncomfortable seeing someone like Niomi, who after a law degree I thought would be pretty inteligent, think some blended fruits and vegetables (aka fibre and sugar) would have *-*magical healing properties*-* and would completely cleanse your body. I mean, thank goodness for smoothies, how would we survive with all these toxins circulating around our body without their cleansing properties? It's an amazement that the human race has managed to survive the pre-Nutribullet times :roll: :rofl:

I don't really care much about researching nutrition as I think the effect it has on health is pretty minimal, but research shows that a standard

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Newest IG post for Body Shop... why was it in a bikini? Necessary?

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Her snapchats over the last few days too. Stretched out on the floor in a sports bra for "just did a workout". I also don't like her snapchats or her filming generally with her little sister - she looks so posey.

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Her snapchats over the last few days too. Stretched out on the floor in a sports bra for "just did a workout". I also don't like her snapchats or her filming generally with her little sister - it looks so posey.

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Lea wrote:I completely agree, Lamour88. I don't believe in this whole clean eating thing at all, not eating dairy or meat is not going to give you superhuman characteristics, your body will just adapt to it. I think people think that humans have a natural diet of fruits and vegetables which we should aspire to emulate when really we don't, we have evolved to be able to sustain on whatever is available. You wouldn't have caught some cave man fretting because there was no quinoa or chia seeds. I wish people who chat shit about nutrition would actually study nutrition and have some type of knowledge of human physiology and biology because it's really uncomfortable seeing someone like Niomi, who after a law degree I thought would be pretty inteligent, think some blended fruits and vegetables (aka fibre and sugar) would have *-*magical healing properties*-* and would completely cleanse your body. I mean, thank goodness for smoothies, how would we survive with all these toxins circulating around our body without their cleansing properties? It's an amazement that the human race has managed to survive the pre-Nutribullet times :roll: :rofl:

I don't really care much about researching nutrition as I think the effect it has on health is pretty minimal, but research shows that a standard
Maybe you should research nutrition. Our diet has a huge impact on our lives. You don't have to eat a vegan diet, but every doctor will agree that vegetarian diets are far superior than meat heavy diet. Even my doctor published studies showing that milk (just milk) is not that good for you, but yogurts and kefirs have whole bunch of great things in them and should be consumed regularly. Try eating nothing but fast food with minimal veggies for a month, and then switch to unprocessed foods (veggies, fruit, grain and lean protein) and then you can tell me if you feel different.

You sound very ignorant TBH, everyone knows veggies and fruits are extremely important to overall health. You don't have to blend them or do anything special do them, just eat them as they are, but why criticize someone for making damn smoothies? The one thing I agree with you is the whole cleanse bullshit. Your kidneys do a superb job with that, "nutritionists" should really stop pushing all those cleanses.

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Lamour88 wrote:
starviolet wrote:
elmox wrote:
starviolet wrote:To me there's no glimmer of doubt that she has an eating disorder. As someone who's had one too, it struck me immediately with her. An eating disorder is not just about how thin (or not) you look. It's her perception of food, and there's definitely a lot wrong with how she thinks about food. I'm sure it's all she thinks about. There are no foods that are 'bad' for you, as we all know it's all about moderation and frequency. No food should be demonised or completely stricken from your diet (unless you have a true diagnosed illness). I don't mean that about the vegan diet as such, that's something else (I don't want to start a vegan debate), but I have noticed another vegan youtuber with an eating disorder as well who demonises non-vegan food. It's definitely a phenomenon.

Oh and her posing in thumbnails is painfully awkward, she should quit.
Who are you to say that no food should be completely stricken from someone else's diet? It's completely her choice and not unhealthy. As long as she's getting enough vitamins/nutrients there's no problem. I've met Niomi and she looks great. She doesn't get preachy about eating vegan/plant-based and she recently ran a marathon and wrote a cookbook so health is going to be a huge part of her life right now. Also, I think so many people are overweight now that it's seen as normal and that's not right.
Lol my post is just that, an opinion, what I believe is true, just like yours is an opinion too and I can take it or leave it. That speaks for itself..

I agree that she doesn't preach and that's great, but it's worrying to see someone with an ED, imo, with a big audience like that, possibly influencing young girls into a fear of certain foods. She spreads a lot of good info about how to be healthy, but perhaps not just that.

I completely, 100% agree. I have also had an ED and then subsequently worked a lot with young women with eating disorders. While I acknowledge it is difficult to diagnose someone just through 'watching' them in this way, it's so clear to anyone with knowledge of the disorder that Niomi so clearly suffers from an ED and I find it so, so uncomfortable that she has been given the platform to hawk eating 'tips' to young women. Toxic habits with food and eating is much harder to detect in today's society because we have become obsessed with diets that are peddled as lifestyles and the treating of certain foods as poison or 'off limits'. This is mainstream now, lauded as the ideal way to live and eat. I'm so thankful that I started to recover from my ED *just* before the gluten free/paleo/etc fads hit the mainstream, or else I have little doubt that I would NOT have recovered and would've gone further down that hole of self-destruction. I see SO many common habits, tricks, and behaviours mirrored in Niomi, that I feel a lot of sympathy but also disgust that she is being encouraged and given this platform, and that people are so hypnotized by the idea of "health" and "good food" that they say they'd say they'd rather their own daughters be trapped into this toxic pseudo health lifestyle rather than be "fat" or "obese". It is correct that if not for the reason of an allergy or complete intolerance (which can include a genuine distaste for the taste or texture of course) to a food, to refuse completely to ever under any circumstances let that food cross your lips because you think it is "unhealthy" is a clear signal of a disordered mind.

Didn't Marcus also recently allude to really messed up eating behaviour that he engaged in, how it robbed him of joy, made him unhealthy, and his family was concerned about him? This was clearly in reference to his time /w/ Niomi and it's evident in watching earlier vlogs of Marcus. I remember one in particular where they were on a boys trip skiing-- the guys were making constant references to Marcus' health obsession, how he clearly wouldn't eat this or that. One morning there was an issue with the breakfast and they all had to stop at a bakery. Marcus was forced to get some sort of pizza bun thing and he was saying "This is my worst nightmare". To a casual observer he might've just looked dejected in the way one would when eating a breakfast they didn't prefer. But I recognized that genuine terror in his face-- he literally looked like he might cry. If it were Niomi, I would bet that she either wouldn't eat breakfast at all or would've pre-packed all her meals before going on vacation. Anyone can eat healthy and should-- that is what I myself do now, for most of the time. But I can also enjoy a spontaneous stop at a cafe for a scone without the fear and anxiety and planning, I can grab an "undesirable" meal at an airport if my flight is delayed and there is nothing else to eat, and I can join my friends at a restaurant without checking the menu a million times online and then spending days restricting and compensating for the amount of sodium in my salad. I have no doubt that Niomi cannot do any of those things.

I feel bad for Niomi in that her choices are so clearly being validated and if there is a recovery for her, it is years and years away. I'm sure people will react poorly to this but I think as many people that can speak out should do so, because I know what being young and impressionable and seeking advice from people from Niomi is like, and if these words can get out there then maybe it can help someone.
You sound like you're trying very hard to convince yourself tbh. I agree Niomi seems to be very strict with what she eats, but if you'd rather your child was 'fat' or 'obese' instead of very healthy that's quite worrying.

'It is correct that if not for the reason of an allergy or complete intolerance (which can include a genuine distaste for the taste or texture of course) to a food, to refuse completely to ever under any circumstances let that food cross your lips because you think it is "unhealthy" is a clear signal of a disordered mind.' - You can word it however you want but that's not true. If i choose never to eat cake because it's unhealthy it doesn't mean I have a disordered mind :roll:

I'm sure it can restricting for her, but I think you're blowing it out of proportion because of your own experiences. Anyway - that's the last time I will continue the ED convo, it's just going round in circles.

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I think I'm going to buy her book, it's weird; whenever I'm in a bookstore and think I should buy a book I don't because I know I can get so many things online. But after reading reviews on her book it sounds like a lot of neat recipes based on her experiences: travel, running a marathon etc have all been captured. That one-stop shop thing works for my type of lifestyle so I think it'll be a good purchase.

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