Tom's Sister (part 9)

[Illogic_ally]

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Hey Carrie!

I thought the same thing. But I’m wondering if maybe she’s just been getting messages about it. Because surely if it was in response to GG she’d have addressed people seeing the listing and knowing her address. I doubt she’d have the forethought to not mention that so that other people didn’t look it it. She doesn’t seem to think of things like that before she opens her mouth


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Nevermind, spoke to soon, she addressed it!

That being said, I do really hope she never has to deal with people showing up at her house. I can’t imagine having to be paranoid about that, so she has my sympathy there


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[wanderlustre]

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Hey Carrie!

I thought the same thing. But I’m wondering if maybe she’s just been getting messages about it. Because surely if it was in response to GG she’d have addressed people seeing the listing and knowing her address. I doubt she’d have the forethought to not mention that so that other people didn’t look it it. She doesn’t seem to think of things like that before she opens her mouth


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You spoke too soon...

[wanderlustre]

Sorry for the double post but not sure how to edit. The thing is about "legal action", it's a publicly available webpage only made identifable by details SHE posted publiclly. I think she completely has a point about phoning the police if she has people showing up on her doorstep but the other one is her own fault. It's not like someone stole the info from her estate agents. She was dim and posted too much about it online. Chalk it up to a lesson learnt. Don't post ANYTHING publicly about your home if you don't want it identified! Silly girl.

[bigstripeylie]

In the UK, the ownership of property is a matter of public record. Anyone can search the Land Registry online and if they know when she bought her house and in roughly what area, they could easily work out which house was hers. They could even search photos. It's the same for every house in the UK, I found mine!

I think her threats of legal action are a bit toothless because even if she got rightmove (or wherever) to remove the listing, if someone really wanted to find her, they could. People might be a freaked out about this, but think about how many people know your address already, that you don't know. Lot's of businesses and websites ask you to provide addresses when signing up, and lots of places have searchable directories where your name and address is probably included and yet most people don't even think about it! Point is, it's very easy to find where basically anyone lives (even celebs), but that doesn't make Carrie any more likely to be in danger of stalking than anyone else. If she does read here, I hope this reassures her.

[TheLondoner]

She really shot herself in the foot by posting those Instagram stories because now people will be even more curious regarding her house. I didn't really care and hadn't been on this forum for a while, but when I saw her stories this morning I knew you guys must have found it So now I'm looking too! If anyone would send me a link that would be highly appreciated. We'll fight the "legal action" together

She's so full of shit, this is all public information, she should have been more careful.

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[Guest]

I wonder what legal action she thinks she can take against people finding a publicly listed website using information that she herself provided.

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[queequeg19]

Shouldn't she be having a word with her brother as well? His tweet was more an indicator of where she lived than anything else. And the thought that people will just turn up at her house, lots of people know where proper A-List celebrities live but they don't go there. I know where the celeb i love more than words can say lives because I was told by a friend of friend yet I would never turn up on their door.

Yes stalking is an issue for well known people but Carrie needs to realise the size of her audience means that a fan like that is not as likely as within some of the more rabid fandoms.

[LylaJovana]

This is the thing, Carrie. If you truly want privacy then you have to actually be private. Your brother and your live in prince also gave away crucial details so maybe have a word with them too?

[spencer_]

I've been trying to find it since last night but I can't seem to find it. I'm just curious about the house, not the location, I don't even live in England haha. So if someone wants to PM me a link of even some pictures, that would be nice.

[Nhian]

I’m sorry but I have to side with Carrie on this one. No matter how much you dislike someone, there is no need to seek out their private information. Also, there’s a difference between keeping your relationship private and keeping your address/home private. I’m not sure if you can see post history on GG but if you look back in old threads you will see I’ve been critical of Carrie in the past but this is taking it too far. I don’t think anyone from this forum would visit Carrie’s house or do anything to harm her but you are making it easier for young fans/people who want to do harm to find. I thought we were better than this...

[2TinyPanthers]

I wonder what legal action she thinks she can take against people finding a publicly listed website using information that she herself provided.

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And technically, we haven't posted the address publicly. The listing was shared around via DM, and people have really only been discussing the wallpaper and price. I do have sympathy for her, but I struggle to believe that anyone would actually show up at her house. Certainly, no one here has any interest in that. She needs to stop instagramming every detail of her life if she has this much of a complex about people finding easily accessible information (I believe she even mentioned she looked the house up on rightmove, so everyone knew it was on there). As much as I love insta, I've never posted the outside of my house or posted anything that gives away anything other than the city.

It was 100% public information that she gave away the details to herself. She has no legal leg to stand on here. All this is is more proof that she reads GG

[stitchomania]

I'm sorry to ask, but I'm SO NOSY at this point. any advise as to how I can find some photos of this house?

(never mind I found it)

[2TinyPanthers]

Shouldn't she be having a word with her brother as well? His tweet was more an indicator of where she lived than anything else. And the thought that people will just turn up at her house, lots of people know where proper A-List celebrities live but they don't go there. I know where the celeb i love more than words can say lives because I was told by a friend of friend yet I would never turn up on their door.

Yes stalking is an issue for well known people but Carrie needs to realise the size of her audience means that a fan like that is not as likely as within some of the more rabid fandoms.

Actually though, Carrie isn't as big a deal as she thinks she is.

I grew up on the same street as a number of properly famous British actors (not naming names because that would give away the street I lived on. See Carrie? It's not hard). Everyone knows they live there, but no one cares. No fans, no stalkers. The few weeks I lived near a famous landmark were faaaar worse.

[Ghostie_]

There’s a couple of really famous people round my way. Including a former Doctor Who (not saying which one because that would give out information). No one bothers them at home. If I said the town I lived in and when I moved into my house you’d be able to find that online.

Carrie would have a point if we were posting “Carrie lives at idk “123 Harry Potter Lane in Cardiff” but all people done was use that her brother posted she lives almost next door and that she has a room with wacky wallpaper.

If you want total privacy do not post identifiable features of your house online when there’s pictures of that same house. She can’t sue people for using information she provided to look on zoopla.

It’s like when people post a picture of their car and don’t crop out their registration. You can find MOT history, when they got it, who they’re insured with etc.

[helia]

There's a huge issue with YouTubers and privacy. Most people wouldn't dare turn up at an A-lister's house, but YouTubers have created a whole following around being their audience's best friend. People feel personally close to their idols and so would have no qualms about showing up at their house. Just look at Zoe and Alfie.

Tbf, Tom massively slipped up by revealing Carrie as a neighbour, since his address is so easy to find (funnily enough, I doubt many people show up at his house) and she probably worsened it by 'favouriting' it, meaning even people who don't follow Tom might see it. Nevertheless, she really shouldn't have to deal with people coming to her address. That would be a horrible feeling, seeing faces through your window and when you walk out your door. She might end up having to do a full Zalfie and get a fence and CCTV.

Legally, maybe she can (try to) sue people for explicitly posting her address online. That or it's just a scare tactic. Either way, she has a right to demand no one reveal her specific address.

[jessisnotcool]

okay, sure. I get that nobody likes to feel like they're not safe in their own home, but once again, she's brought attention to an issue and made it bigger than it needs to be.

I'm sure MOST of her fans wouldn't have even thought to "stalk" her online, or known that that information was available. They certainly do now.

I love how she's highlighted and emphasised the fact that posting her ADDRESS FOR STALKING AND HARASSMENT reasons is illegal.

Guys, posting about how shit her wallpaper is is HARASSMENT and illegal now!!! We're all DOOOMED. Especially me, in my country, half way across the world, who doesn't know or care about her address, but could easily have found out because of the info SHE HERSELF posted.

DOOMED I TELLS YA.

[Guest]

There's a huge issue with YouTubers and privacy. Most people wouldn't dare turn up at an A-lister's house, but YouTubers have created a whole following around being their audience's best friend. People feel personally close to their idols and so would have no qualms about showing up at their house. Just look at Zoe and Alfie.

Tbf, Tom massively slipped up by revealing Carrie as a neighbour, since his address is so easy to find (funnily enough, I doubt many people show up at his house) and she probably worsened it by 'favouriting' it, meaning even people who don't follow Tom might see it. Nevertheless, she really shouldn't have to deal with people coming to her address. That would be a horrible feeling, seeing faces through your window and when you walk out your door. She might end up having to do a full Zalfie and get a fence and CCTV.

Legally, maybe she can (try to) sue people for explicitly posting her address online. That or it's just a scare tactic. Either way, she has a right to demand no one reveal her specific address.

But no one has explicitly posted her address. No one has posted even part of it. Look at the number of people saying they couldn't find it.

As for her claims that people are planning to harass and stalk her using it, where's her evidence? No one is interested in turning up at her door, no one has threatened to. People were curious because she made a big deal about this wonderful house that's her dream forever home, then said she wouldn't be showing it. She herself, along with people close to her, provided the information that people used to find it. I'm not saying it is all her fault, i just think it's a lesson learned for her, and she's going to cause herself more problems by drawing attention to the fact it's findable online because i guarantee now more people who don't even read here will be searching.

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[Guest]

Yeah there is definitely no case for stalking here but even if there were - stalking is one of those things that is just a grey area in most legal systems that it doesn't get prosecuted. Just look at the Vice article of the woman who has had a stalker for decades, since she was 12, and gone to the police many times about it.

We already knew the Care Bear was full of shit when it comes to legal threats - remember her threatening to sue Alex for discussing their relationship in his book? I totally get why she'd be doing this out of fear, but she definitely knows she has no case. Facts are facts, dear Care Bear.

[LylaJovana]

No one has actually posted her address though, not that I've seen anyway. I get that she's probably worried but she's drawing more attention to it herself now. People have known the address of her flat from when she fucked up and left it in a vlog years ago...how many people showed up there to "stalk" her though?

[CatThatGotTheCream]

I think she’s missed the point. Literally no one looked so they could go round - we just wanted to be nosy

Also I hate when people start threatening legal this and legal that. It’s not a crime to not like someone and gossip about a public figure. You really gonna start taking everyone through civil court? You’ve got a mortgage to pay now doll!