THE DOLAN TWINS (Part 3)
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samserra201 you need to chill down. I know you like the twins and want to defend them, but you come after everyone who has a different opinion. It is a gossip sub after all.
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Tell that to the girl telling me to "suck it" for disagreeing with her. I'm sorry I talk a lot, but she's middle-fingering me for simply pointing out that she's ignoring a lot of obvious factors. Why are you coming at me?BrewingAyahuasca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:20 amsamserra201 you need to chill down. I know you like the twins and want to defend them, but you come after everyone who has a different opinion. It is a gossip sub after all.
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Call me a cynic but I can't trust anyone who monitors and sanitizes their image to this extent. They are rich, young, (relatively) decent-looking D-listers in Hollywood, and that category's a dime a dozen. Were I a betting man, I'd put good money that not only do they under-age drink, but they probably party with some harder stuff, as well. It's only a matter of time before something comes out that shocks the parents of their pre-teen fans. They have to sanitize their image because, let's face it, no other demographic would give them the time of day.
It's smart of them to branch out into other businesses and investments, though. They can't last like this forever. Does anyone remember Marcus Butler from back in the day when the UK gang was big?
It's smart of them to branch out into other businesses and investments, though. They can't last like this forever. Does anyone remember Marcus Butler from back in the day when the UK gang was big?
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lmao yes I can't believe I was ever subscribed to him, he fell off hard into obscurity.7abiib_azzubb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:46 pmCall me a cynic but I can't trust anyone who monitors and sanitizes their image to this extent. They are rich, young, (relatively) decent-looking D-listers in Hollywood, and that category's a dime a dozen. Were I a betting man, I'd put good money that not only do they under-age drink, but they probably party with some harder stuff, as well. It's only a matter of time before something comes out that shocks the parents of their pre-teen fans. They have to sanitize their image because, let's face it, no other demographic would give them the time of day.
It's smart of them to branch out into other businesses and investments, though. They can't last like this forever. Does anyone remember Marcus Butler from back in the day when the UK gang was big?
To be clear, I definitely don't think the twins are these homebody goodie two shoes that they portray. Not by a long shot. I just think they've proven smart enough that them showing up to a professional set and being divas sounds ridiculous. If the mask gets torn off someday, it'll probably be by a scorned ex friend or girlfriend or something.
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Jack Dail said they’d had sex and would have a mike’s hard every time they hit another million milestone back in the day, which is like nothing. Their sister is also pretty open about drinking so I think we’d see something if they did it too.7abiib_azzubb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:46 pmCall me a cynic but I can't trust anyone who monitors and sanitizes their image to this extent. They are rich, young, (relatively) decent-looking D-listers in Hollywood, and that category's a dime a dozen. Were I a betting man, I'd put good money that not only do they under-age drink, but they probably party with some harder stuff, as well. It's only a matter of time before something comes out that shocks the parents of their pre-teen fans. They have to sanitize their image because, let's face it, no other demographic would give them the time of day.
It's smart of them to branch out into other businesses and investments, though. They can't last like this forever. Does anyone remember Marcus Butler from back in the day when the UK gang was big?
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As people still debating if Emma and Ethan dated, here's this: Forbes journalist Tom Ward interviewed Emma for an article in September, 2018. He also posted his most successful video interview with her on his YT channel, Under The Influence. Recently he accidentally on purpose told the story in another interview with someone else that he and his editor laboriously had to blur out 30 minutes of background Polaroids with "a girl who had recently started dating someone but it wasn't public knowledge."
Yep, those famous blurred Polaroids, set them alongside the pics of Emma and Ethan sucking face at Olivia Jade's 19th birthday party. Ethan admitted on the lie detector test he had been seeing someone. With the fan pic of Emma, Ethan, and Lisa Dolan in a New Jersey store the same day Emma posted an IG saying she was in New York with Ellie, and Grayson was in Massachusetts at the time. And the fan pics of Ethan and Emma shopping at Whole Foods, Costco for a Nintendo Switch, Urth cafe. IG pic of Ethan in Emma's passenger seat and a dozen IG pics of them in the same place and time obviously having taken each other's pics and posting at about the same time, commenting on those pics to each other. Definitely not crusty lips. My house now for Wakeheart. Haunted house employees seeing them as a couple, their body language at that time. Even the Soul Cycle jokes in the June collabS.
Plenty of Emma, Ethan, and Grayson together at the beach, amusement parks, on Rodeo Drive. Not one photo ever of Emma and Grayson together, or Emma with any other guy or Ethan with any other girl during this time.
I think it is important to acknowledge they were together, particularly if anyone likes either one of them, to acknowledge that there is pain there and they can't or won't talk about it directly in reference to each other, so it is unspoken that they have suffered and perhaps may still suffer over the loss of each other, as supportive friends in addition to romance.
Yep, those famous blurred Polaroids, set them alongside the pics of Emma and Ethan sucking face at Olivia Jade's 19th birthday party. Ethan admitted on the lie detector test he had been seeing someone. With the fan pic of Emma, Ethan, and Lisa Dolan in a New Jersey store the same day Emma posted an IG saying she was in New York with Ellie, and Grayson was in Massachusetts at the time. And the fan pics of Ethan and Emma shopping at Whole Foods, Costco for a Nintendo Switch, Urth cafe. IG pic of Ethan in Emma's passenger seat and a dozen IG pics of them in the same place and time obviously having taken each other's pics and posting at about the same time, commenting on those pics to each other. Definitely not crusty lips. My house now for Wakeheart. Haunted house employees seeing them as a couple, their body language at that time. Even the Soul Cycle jokes in the June collabS.
Plenty of Emma, Ethan, and Grayson together at the beach, amusement parks, on Rodeo Drive. Not one photo ever of Emma and Grayson together, or Emma with any other guy or Ethan with any other girl during this time.
I think it is important to acknowledge they were together, particularly if anyone likes either one of them, to acknowledge that there is pain there and they can't or won't talk about it directly in reference to each other, so it is unspoken that they have suffered and perhaps may still suffer over the loss of each other, as supportive friends in addition to romance.
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I agree with all thisfull_send wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:16 pmAs people still debating if Emma and Ethan dated, here's this: Forbes journalist Tom Ward interviewed Emma for an article in September, 2018. He also posted his most successful video interview with her on his YT channel, Under The Influence. Recently he accidentally on purpose told the story in another interview with someone else that he and his editor laboriously had to blur out 30 minutes of background Polaroids with "a girl who had recently started dating someone but it wasn't public knowledge."
Yep, those famous blurred Polaroids, set them alongside the pics of Emma and Ethan sucking face at Olivia Jade's 19th birthday party. Ethan admitted on the lie detector test he had been seeing someone. With the fan pic of Emma, Ethan, and Lisa Dolan in a New Jersey store the same day Emma posted an IG saying she was in New York with Ellie, and Grayson was in Massachusetts at the time. And the fan pics of Ethan and Emma shopping at Whole Foods, Costco for a Nintendo Switch, Urth cafe. IG pic of Ethan in Emma's passenger seat and a dozen IG pics of them in the same place and time obviously having taken each other's pics and posting at about the same time, commenting on those pics to each other. Definitely not crusty lips. My house now for Wakeheart. Haunted house employees seeing them as a couple, their body language at that time. Even the Soul Cycle jokes in the June collabS.
Plenty of Emma, Ethan, and Grayson together at the beach, amusement parks, on Rodeo Drive. Not one photo ever of Emma and Grayson together, or Emma with any other guy or Ethan with any other girl during this time.
I think it is important to acknowledge they were together, particularly if anyone likes either one of them, to acknowledge that there is pain there and they can't or won't talk about it directly in reference to each other, so it is unspoken that they have suffered and perhaps may still suffer over the loss of each other, as supportive friends in addition to romance.
but I'm sorry if came across as rude put even without all this proof you must be delusional and in absolute denial if you think Ethan and Emma didn't date it's just obvious
fans like this feel a very emotional attachment to their idols and when they date it hurts them so they prefer to be in denial
I'm not bashing I've been there in my early stan days there was a model I absolutely loved and we fans went ballistic when he started datin
Even when he got engaged and got married some fans were still in denial and making all this stupid theories it wasn't real simply based on the fact that he didn't officially announce it
now back to Ethan I used to think it was annoying and stupid how he hinted but never admitted they were dating, but now I see how brilliant it is
because, like that, they can date kind of freely, gain all the perks the relationship brings but at the same time keep the hardcore fans happy because since he didn't verbally say it they can still live in denial
and everybody is happy the fans can keep dreaming about being E's girlfriend and E can go on about his life
the twins proving once again how smart and savy they are
about that rumor about them being jerks on set I don't believe it for one second like someone was saying is not that I think they are saints but they are way too careful about their images to let it slip like that in such a public careless way
They have been on a public eye for years now and we all say how control freaks they must be to be able to avoid any scandal like other youtubers, there is no way they would let it happen, not like that
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When James and Shane had their collab in March of 2018... he said straight boys were a challenge and Shane told him to leave them alone(Ethan liked the screenshot of the collab and they use to watch James' videos)- then he became a fan of the SS and I'm sure everyone knew James liked Grayson. James also talked about converting straight boys when he was friends with the twins. Did they just ignore that ? lol
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The photo set Larray had on his page with James is the only picture Grayson liked this year along with Larray's most recent picture with Issl....maybe a coincidence but still pretty interesting lol
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So the live tv show was partially true the twins just talked about it on their podcast. They were unprepared and didn't want to do what they were supposed to.
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I really wonder where these tea pages gt their information from because I'm actually shocked that it's true and also the timing of the rumour being posted and the podcast talking about it is shockingly proper timing considering they did the podcast during Grayson's mustache eraDaisyyvelise wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:54 amSo the live tv show was partially true the twins just talked about it on their podcast. They were unprepared and didn't want to do what they were supposed to.
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Hmm that is interesting. Long story short they said that they changed the script on them and were going to ask them a bunch of personal and gossipy questions. I think that is what the problem was anyway. Ethan was having a panic attack and was also insecure about being on tv with his acne.
Either way, it is still extremely unprofessional to leave like they did. I know they said they did it in a polite way and weren't rude to anyone, but leaving like that is not a good look.
I am super curious to know what show this was for. And how did they not know it was live TV? I don't get it lol. They also said they didn't want to talk about youtube because thats not what direction they are going for anymore. I get that they changed their content, but they still post on youtube. So i am confused on why they think they are suddenly not youtubers anymore. If you are posting your content on youtube, you are a youtuber haha.
In the end, I see both sides. Anxiety makes you rationalize things in your head to make it seem like you made the right decision. I genuinely think they weren't intentionally being "divas" but I could see how they show could see them as one.
Either way, it is still extremely unprofessional to leave like they did. I know they said they did it in a polite way and weren't rude to anyone, but leaving like that is not a good look.
I am super curious to know what show this was for. And how did they not know it was live TV? I don't get it lol. They also said they didn't want to talk about youtube because thats not what direction they are going for anymore. I get that they changed their content, but they still post on youtube. So i am confused on why they think they are suddenly not youtubers anymore. If you are posting your content on youtube, you are a youtuber haha.
In the end, I see both sides. Anxiety makes you rationalize things in your head to make it seem like you made the right decision. I genuinely think they weren't intentionally being "divas" but I could see how they show could see them as one.
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Interesting. It sounds like they definitely weren't as professional as they could have been but a lot of this sounds like anxiety rather than being mean or divas, which is how the original post was worded. It also seems like there was some failing on the part of the show. Guests shouldn't really be surprised about the questions they receive.
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Apparently it wasn’t actual live tv but a web based video thing, they were under the impression it was just a press interview and they wouldn’t be filmed (which they said could have been their own fault for getting it mixed up) when they got there they were told it was being filmed.... which was fine until they found out the show had completely changed the topic of the interview. They had agreed ahead of time it would only be about Wakeheart and were sent ten or so questions they would be asked that they prepared for. 5 mins before they were supposed to film, a producer came over and said they were only asking one of those questions and the rest would be about Youtube/collabs etc. I’m guessing Ethan freaked out because he was worried about being asked about the sister squad, Emma, their mental health, etc. He described what they wanted to ask as “heavy questions”. Plus he talked about not even wanting to leave the house cause his acne is bad and now having to be on camera. Grayson said Ethan was even downplaying it and that he had a full blown panic attack.
I can see people calling them dropping out of doing it last minute unprofessional and labeling them divas, but I also don’t think it was professional of the network/show to pull the rug out from under them and change everything last minute. Ethan said if the interview was going to be about Youtube they would have never agreed in the first place because they aren’t trying to promote their channel at this point, they’re just trying to enjoy it and have fun with it. It would be different if last minute they decided they didn’t wanna be asked about Youtube, but the plan from the beginning was to only talk about Wakeheart. Something else they said that was interesting was that this all happened behind closed doors and only 5 people were present... and they’re very close to everyone who was there except one person, who was the publicist they had been given who they met that day. Basically implying the publicist leaked it to the account that posted it
I can see people calling them dropping out of doing it last minute unprofessional and labeling them divas, but I also don’t think it was professional of the network/show to pull the rug out from under them and change everything last minute. Ethan said if the interview was going to be about Youtube they would have never agreed in the first place because they aren’t trying to promote their channel at this point, they’re just trying to enjoy it and have fun with it. It would be different if last minute they decided they didn’t wanna be asked about Youtube, but the plan from the beginning was to only talk about Wakeheart. Something else they said that was interesting was that this all happened behind closed doors and only 5 people were present... and they’re very close to everyone who was there except one person, who was the publicist they had been given who they met that day. Basically implying the publicist leaked it to the account that posted it
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inadream wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:17 pmApparently it wasn’t actual live tv but a web based video thing, they were under the impression it was just a press interview and they wouldn’t be filmed (which they said could have been their own fault for getting it mixed up) when they got there they were told it was being filmed.... which was fine until they found out the show had completely changed the topic of the interview. They had agreed ahead of time it would only be about Wakeheart and were sent ten or so questions they would be asked that they prepared for. 5 mins before they were supposed to film, a producer came over and said they were only asking one of those questions and the rest would be about Youtube/collabs etc. I’m guessing Ethan freaked out because he was worried about being asked about the sister squad, Emma, their mental health, etc. He described what they wanted to ask as “heavy questions”. Plus he talked about not even wanting to leave the house cause his acne is bad and now having to be on camera. Grayson said Ethan was even downplaying it and that he had a full blown panic attack.
I can see people calling them dropping out of doing it last minute unprofessional and labeling them divas, but I also don’t think it was professional of the network/show to pull the rug out from under them and change everything last minute. Ethan said if the interview was going to be about Youtube they would have never agreed in the first place because they aren’t trying to promote their channel at this point, they’re just trying to enjoy it and have fun with it. It would be different if last minute they decided they didn’t wanna be asked about Youtube, but the plan from the beginning was to only talk about Wakeheart. Something else they said that was interesting was that this all happened behind closed doors and only 5 people were present... and they’re very close to everyone who was there except one person, who was the publicist they had been given who they met that day. Basically implying the publicist leaked it to the account that posted it
Wow, I think they did the right thing by leaving....they agreed to one thing and they were presented with another when they actually got there. I would have left, too. It's extremely unprofessional on that web shows part.....who knows, maybe the web show got them to agree by saying they were interested in Wakeheart, and when the twins got there they realized these people really just wanted tea on their lives. No, it doesn't look good to walk out on a media opportunity, but being told the topic of the show to be one thing and presented with another minutes beforehand is a very valid reason to walk out. Hopefully from now on, they maybe get their own publicist. That's just terrible for them, especially in their sensitive mental states right now.
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What do you guys think when Grayson said 'what if they ask about Jeffree' ? but they also said they don't gossip and spill tea and all that stuff lol
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I think saying Jeffree was the easiest collab to bring up since the sister squad isn’t a thing anymore & they don’t want to discuss it at all. It really did sound like the company interviewing them wanted some gossip about what happened there.Daisyyvelise wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:22 pmWhat do you guys think when Grayson said 'what if they ask about Jeffree' ? but they also said they don't gossip and spill tea and all that stuff lol
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The backwards summersaults some of y'all are doing in order to justify the actions of talentless brats is quite astonishing.
Not sure why anyone would doubt the fact that they would up and leave the minute they smell a perceived threat to their hermetically sealed, fake, squeaky clean projected personas. Even if this one rumor weren't true, there is a clear performance and a clear curation of their image. There is nothing genuine about what they put out there. It's all filtered with a fine-tooth comb.
They can control their content and what they put out, and they can semi-control collaborations they make with fellow YouTubers because of their perceived social capital with their subscriber numbers and views. What they cannot control, however, is what other outlets say and show.
Let's face it, packing up and leaving wouldn't be an issue for people who have nothing to hide.
Not sure why anyone would doubt the fact that they would up and leave the minute they smell a perceived threat to their hermetically sealed, fake, squeaky clean projected personas. Even if this one rumor weren't true, there is a clear performance and a clear curation of their image. There is nothing genuine about what they put out there. It's all filtered with a fine-tooth comb.
They can control their content and what they put out, and they can semi-control collaborations they make with fellow YouTubers because of their perceived social capital with their subscriber numbers and views. What they cannot control, however, is what other outlets say and show.
Let's face it, packing up and leaving wouldn't be an issue for people who have nothing to hide.