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Loving C&E's new video so far, I've said it so many times before but Erin really is absolutely stunning. Once again I wish Natalie was involved though, I'll go ahead and assume she was just too busy looking after David to be there.
David Dobrik/Vlog Squad (Part 13)
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Erin could totally be a model. She really worked that white pantsuit/cape outfit. It did nothing on Liza.
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God, Liza, there was absolutely 0 reason for her to try it on. She's plain annoying. And I don't understand the whole "she might be too much but she has a kind heart!" reasoning because how do you know? Yes she's not backstabbing people or doing anything malicious but that still doesn't mean she's this secretly kind hearted mysterious person - it just means she's not terrible. If she has such a kind heart she would let her friends enjoy their time without having to take it all to herself. I just don't get why she's so praised. If someone has any convincing reasons that are beyond personal ideas of what she might be like, give them to me, I'll eat them up.
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Just the fact that she was stringing David along for what seemed like a long time makes me think that she's not that good a personpandry wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:11 amGod, Liza, there was absolutely 0 reason for her to try it on. She's plain annoying. And I don't understand the whole "she might be too much but she has a kind heart!" reasoning because how do you know? Yes she's not backstabbing people or doing anything malicious but that still doesn't mean she's this secretly kind hearted mysterious person - it just means she's not terrible. If she has such a kind heart she would let her friends enjoy their time without having to take it all to herself. I just don't get why she's so praised. If someone has any convincing reasons that are beyond personal ideas of what she might be like, give them to me, I'll eat them up.
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Someone posted a video in the last thread of that girl "psychoanalysing" David which I thought was pretty interesting but in all honesty I don't think that David is this master manipulator that a lot of people try make him out to be. I guess it's purely circumstantial, he does have a large following and is considerably more successful than them all and has created a lot of opportunities for his friends also by having them appear in his vlogs, so naturally they will be more inclined to do things for the bits. I remember Zane did a podcast interview with Travis Mills recently and he said that everyone and everything is super exaggerated in the vlogs in order to help David, I think it's a you scratch my back and I scratch yours type of thing. David will use them to entertain in his vlogs, and they will also use David's appearances in their own vlogs to drive traffic to their channel. The whole narrative of David being a sociopath is starting to get annoying because idk but to me it just seems like they are all a bunch of friends helping each other out, I highly doubt anyone is made to do things that make them uncomfortable. PS: I'm new here after lurking for such a long time lol
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Welcome! And I completely agree. I swear a lot of channels are just jumping on the David Dobrik train at this point. It brings the views. David just has good people skills. He loves people and people love him. The example of David getting everyone to stay out instead of sleeping was stupid. He didn't use any good manipulation skills that I saw. People got out of the bus because they wanted to. As for Natalie, she got that car last year, 3 or 4 months ago now. Its only in the past couple of weeks thats shes done favours for David (eating spicy chocolate and drumming). She did that because she loves him. (as a friend... maybe)undercoversugarcube wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:24 amSomeone posted a video in the last thread of that girl "psychoanalysing" David which I thought was pretty interesting but in all honesty I don't think that David is this master manipulator that a lot of people try make him out to be. I guess it's purely circumstantial, he does have a large following and is considerably more successful than them all and has created a lot of opportunities for his friends also by having them appear in his vlogs, so naturally they will be more inclined to do things for the bits. I remember Zane did a podcast interview with Travis Mills recently and he said that everyone and everything is super exaggerated in the vlogs in order to help David, I think it's a you scratch my back and I scratch yours type of thing. David will use them to entertain in his vlogs, and they will also use David's appearances in their own vlogs to drive traffic to their channel. The whole narrative of David being a sociopath is starting to get annoying because idk but to me it just seems like they are all a bunch of friends helping each other out, I highly doubt anyone is made to do things that make them uncomfortable. PS: I'm new here after lurking for such a long time lol
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I hate the whole "stringing David along" narrative that has taken root in this forum. David and Liza are both VERY young and had a serious relationship and handled it the best they could. They haven't really involved social media in any of their breakup and didn't go around talking crap about each other and we have literally NO reason to believe Liza did anything wrong. She could have been very honest with David about never wanting to get back together but still wanting to be friends, and he decided friends was better than nothing until it wasn't. They could have decided to be friends but as time went on they have adjusted things behind the scenes and we will never know. Now all the sudden since it seems like David is moving on Liza is a bad guy and everyone hates her? Just because two people you like break up doesn't mean you have to take sides.
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Yes,we don't know what happened, but it seemed like he really believed that they might get back together (in the lie detector video), which leads me to believe that she did string him on. And by looks of things only his feelings towards her have changed - she didn't mind talking abut him in c&e's vs girls video but David won't even mention liza's name.ohhaiii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:05 amI hate the whole "stringing David along" narrative that has taken root in this forum. David and Liza are both VERY young and had a serious relationship and handled it the best they could. They haven't really involved social media in any of their breakup and didn't go around talking crap about each other and we have literally NO reason to believe Liza did anything wrong. She could have been very honest with David about never wanting to get back together but still wanting to be friends, and he decided friends was better than nothing until it wasn't. They could have decided to be friends but as time went on they have adjusted things behind the scenes and we will never know. Now all the sudden since it seems like David is moving on Liza is a bad guy and everyone hates her? Just because two people you like break up doesn't mean you have to take sides.
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I'm not sure if that's about that. David had hope about getting back together with Liza till at least december 2018. I really don't think that he would have them if she didn't make it look like there was a chance to make it happen at some point. He's not dumb. And it looks like (for me personally) that David was the one that always had hope for them getting back together and Liza was the one that didn't want to make it seem like she dumped him for good and probably didn't want to hurt him, so there was that "i'm not okay to be with anyone else till I love myself" thing. We have to remember that there's a possibility that she actually wanted to end things for good, but if she was clear about that then people would complain & blame her for everything. Maybe they just grew out of each other & if the break up wasn't as "friendly" as it was shown for the camera, then it would really have a bad impact on their lifes for example their friends would take sides & it would be awkward for them to hang out together (and it wasn;t for about a year - it kind of is becoming akward now, because they're avoiding each other in real life or at least on camera/social media)
(I'm not sure if you get my point, bc I sometimes I don't know how explain my thoughts )
(I'm not sure if you get my point, bc I sometimes I don't know how explain my thoughts )
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He mentioned many many times that he hoped to get back with her and that he didn't know if it would happen or not. He's not a total idiot, she must have given him some reason to hope.gossgirl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:23 amYes,we don't know what happened, but it seemed like he really believed that they might get back together (in the lie detector video), which leads me to believe that she did string him on. And by looks of things only his feelings towards her have changed - she didn't mind talking abut him in c&e's vs girls video but David won't even mention liza's name.ohhaiii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:05 amI hate the whole "stringing David along" narrative that has taken root in this forum. David and Liza are both VERY young and had a serious relationship and handled it the best they could. They haven't really involved social media in any of their breakup and didn't go around talking crap about each other and we have literally NO reason to believe Liza did anything wrong. She could have been very honest with David about never wanting to get back together but still wanting to be friends, and he decided friends was better than nothing until it wasn't. They could have decided to be friends but as time went on they have adjusted things behind the scenes and we will never know. Now all the sudden since it seems like David is moving on Liza is a bad guy and everyone hates her? Just because two people you like break up doesn't mean you have to take sides.
They were seen together just before xmas at liza's house xmas party. Everything seemed fine then. Jan 7th she posted her 'why i took a break' video. A jar of mayo can be seen in the video and she basically announces shes doing much better. In the break up video, her whole reasoning for breaking up was due to her mental health and how she 'needed to find the mayo'.
I suspect that may have had something to do with David realising it wasn't going to happen, mayo or no.
In conclusion, yes I believe everything points to her having led him on.
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Yeah we don't know what happened but it was pretty clear that David had hoped they would get back together after she found her mayo(what a ridiculous analogy btw).I don't think his hopes were unfounded,she propably kept him close to her as emotional support while going through those vague issues...All I know is that David looked really unhappy while they were still in contact and he's finally looking happy again after they've stopped hanging out.
Oh and one last thing,I've always thought that break-up excuses like "it's not you,it's me I need to find myself" are used to soften the blow and are kind of bs.If Liza had straight up said to David "I don't love you anymore,I'm not into you" he wouldn't be hung up on her for a year.Then again she propably wouldn't have her emotional crutch either so...
Oh and one last thing,I've always thought that break-up excuses like "it's not you,it's me I need to find myself" are used to soften the blow and are kind of bs.If Liza had straight up said to David "I don't love you anymore,I'm not into you" he wouldn't be hung up on her for a year.Then again she propably wouldn't have her emotional crutch either so...
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David had hope that they would get back together, from everything we have seen he hasn't even dated anyone else. What 20something sexually active person just quits hooking up when they breakup with someone. David has females throwing themselves at him all the time. He was holding out and keeping himself 'pure' so Liza wouldn't have any ill thoughts about him or he could use the narrative of 'I didn't hook up with anyone during our break'. I don't see anyone taking sides here, Liza has changed(not saying personal growth is bad) and people see it. I was totally on the Liza train until this year. What has pissed me off with her has nothing to do with David, but with Erin. There was NO REASON for her to make the video about her, this was Erin's wedding dress video with the VS girls. Zane is always dressing up in girl clothes for a laugh and even he didn't put on a dress in their video.ohhaiii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:05 amI hate the whole "stringing David along" narrative that has taken root in this forum. David and Liza are both VERY young and had a serious relationship and handled it the best they could. They haven't really involved social media in any of their breakup and didn't go around talking crap about each other and we have literally NO reason to believe Liza did anything wrong. She could have been very honest with David about never wanting to get back together but still wanting to be friends, and he decided friends was better than nothing until it wasn't. They could have decided to be friends but as time went on they have adjusted things behind the scenes and we will never know. Now all the sudden since it seems like David is moving on Liza is a bad guy and everyone hates her? Just because two people you like break up doesn't mean you have to take sides.
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I really want to like liza. i loved her in the old vlogs. she's always been good at improv and bouncing off other people for bits. that's partly why i think her and david were good together initially. they were cute, but they were also really funny (just look at the break up video)
but...something about her irritates me. she didn't really do anything wrong in the carly and erin wedding video, she seemed sweet and helpful, but i still found myself a bit tired of her antics. she just has those bubbly in your face personalities that i don't vibe with idk.
i still feel like i don't even know liza. what is chill liza like?
she just irritates me...without ever doing anything wrong. maybe its a personal bias thing.
but...something about her irritates me. she didn't really do anything wrong in the carly and erin wedding video, she seemed sweet and helpful, but i still found myself a bit tired of her antics. she just has those bubbly in your face personalities that i don't vibe with idk.
i still feel like i don't even know liza. what is chill liza like?
she just irritates me...without ever doing anything wrong. maybe its a personal bias thing.
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I really want Erin to get the wedding dress with pants for the reception at least
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Totally agree with you here! I think it's just an acquired taste I guess, there's people who we like and theres people we don't like and sometimes theres no explanation for either. Her character in general I just find annoying even back when she was on Vine, idk I think she's very animated for too much of the time that it gets too much. I'm sure there are people who really like this though, maybe people with similar personalities. But yeah, I 100% agree with you and I think many people do on the fact that we just don't know who she REALLY is behind it all, I feel like it's near enough impossible to be that hyperactive 24/7. For example Zane does have a big character but there's many moments where he's just chill and being his "normal" self but we've never really seen Liza just chilling and it's getting to the point where it's unbearable for me to watch her constantly "acting" out a certain character.freshcabbage wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:14 amI really want to like liza. i loved her in the old vlogs. she's always been good at improv and bouncing off other people for bits. that's partly why i think her and david were good together initially. they were cute, but they were also really funny (just look at the break up video)
but...something about her irritates me. she didn't really do anything wrong in the carly and erin wedding video, she seemed sweet and helpful, but i still found myself a bit tired of her antics. she just has those bubbly in your face personalities that i don't vibe with idk.
i still feel like i don't even know liza. what is chill liza like?
she just irritates me...without ever doing anything wrong. maybe its a personal bias thing.
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Yeah absolutely, I think a lot of it has to do with the whole cancel culture thing that's going on right now. I guess people are clutching at anything to try and somewhat bring him down because it's "entertaining" to people watching someone very successful lose it all (toxic toxic toxic mentality) The comparison with Logan Paul was pretty valid though in my opinion, a huge factor that sets apart the Vlog Squad from other YouTube "cliques" is the genuinity of their friendships and how they all pretty much started together from scratch and all grew as one which is what the other cliques are strongly lacking in.Teacup30 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:36 amWelcome! And I completely agree. I swear a lot of channels are just jumping on the David Dobrik train at this point. It brings the views. David just has good people skills. He loves people and people love him. The example of David getting everyone to stay out instead of sleeping was stupid. He didn't use any good manipulation skills that I saw. People got out of the bus because they wanted to. As for Natalie, she got that car last year, 3 or 4 months ago now. Its only in the past couple of weeks thats shes done favours for David (eating spicy chocolate and drumming). She did that because she loves him. (as a friend... maybe)undercoversugarcube wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:24 amSomeone posted a video in the last thread of that girl "psychoanalysing" David which I thought was pretty interesting but in all honesty I don't think that David is this master manipulator that a lot of people try make him out to be. I guess it's purely circumstantial, he does have a large following and is considerably more successful than them all and has created a lot of opportunities for his friends also by having them appear in his vlogs, so naturally they will be more inclined to do things for the bits. I remember Zane did a podcast interview with Travis Mills recently and he said that everyone and everything is super exaggerated in the vlogs in order to help David, I think it's a you scratch my back and I scratch yours type of thing. David will use them to entertain in his vlogs, and they will also use David's appearances in their own vlogs to drive traffic to their channel. The whole narrative of David being a sociopath is starting to get annoying because idk but to me it just seems like they are all a bunch of friends helping each other out, I highly doubt anyone is made to do things that make them uncomfortable. PS: I'm new here after lurking for such a long time lol
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What I like to do is imagine that Natalie just got finished watching the C&E vid, saw how typical irritating, obnoxious Liza was being and then made her eye roll ig story directed towards her haha.
Has David even let people know he's up for a Kids Choice Award?!
Has David even let people know he's up for a Kids Choice Award?!
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Yass I hope the whole vs goes to the kid's choice awards, the vlog would be so funnyBetty_Rage wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:51 amWhat I like to do is imagine that Natalie just got finished watching the C&E vid, saw how typical irritating, obnoxious Liza was being and then made her eye roll ig story directed towards her haha.
Has David even let people know he's up for a Kids Choice Award?!