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Peter Monn's Tweets and a discussion

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As most of you know Peter Monn is a 46 years old man who makes videos on Youtube. People know him mostly from his drama channel, and his mantra to spread positivity. Recently some of his old tweets have surfaced. While he made an "apology" video, no one is discussing why these weren't only wrong, but the complete ignorance running rampant in our society.
I am seeing comments saying "well we all have said stupid things in the past", "Or those were just replies or retweets". Yes but he liked those retweets. It's very easy to ask for forgiveness, instead of taking a moment, and thinking "is this wise to say, or should I keep this to myself".

Lets make a couple things clear before we go further. I am aware that no one is perfect and we make mistakes. But these tweets of Peters are from 2008-2016. He was 38 when he started tweeting. An educated, grown adult that was a counselor and also ran an online business with his husband. Interesting how these offensive tweets stopped right after this Youtube channel started gaining traction. He probably still had the same thoughts, but kept his mouth shut

"Ghetto", "Rachet", "Thug", "Hoodrat" - Making fun of where people live is tacky. Not everyone grew up with privilege like Peter. Growing up poor or in a trailer, isn't anything to be ashamed of. Sometimes that's all people can afford. So to call places and things ghetto is hurtful. Also while these words aren't slurs, they also have a history of describing people of color. Being called these words is not used as a compliment. Thug has quickly become a hot button to replace the word n word, without having to say it. So while Peter may not meant to be racist. He used it as a put down and as a negative term. Kim Kardashian is known to have dated mostly black men. Peter wants to know "if she speaks ghetto with her girlfriends"?? Pure ignorance.
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he tweeted this at a hotel he was staying at.

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I was not able to screen grab the africa comment. But it was pretty much "Good thing we don't live in Africa, we would have a whole new set of problems". That's paraphrasing.

Calling people Trannys? Really?? Using the f word to speak about people in the LBGT community is vile in any context. Also he's been very strong about his convictions to not use the F word. Yet it flowed very freely in these tweets. I know that like the n word, some people believe that the person saying it, as long as they are part of the community is ok. I don't agree with that. We have a whole dictionary full of other less derogatory words to call each other.
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Men straight or gay need to stop refering to women as sluts and bitches. You don't get a pass because you are gay. Being misogynist is disgusting.
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I understand that Peter is an adult and can make jokes about blowing people for likes. But again his account was public and he was seeing clients at this time. His tumblr was connected to this account which was also public at the time. It's just not a responsible way to put yourself out there. There is a reason there is a private setting for social media accounts. Could you imagine if a professional women tweeted something like this? She would be called a slut and would probably feel the repercussions at her job if someone found it.
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could you imagine the people he had a meeting with, seeing this tweet? It's so unprofessional and say so much about his character.
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So its on the girl not to get drunk and messy, so she wont have to get an abortion? It takes two to make a baby. Shouldn't he add that it's also the responsibility of the man to also not get drunk and in pregnant someone? Women dont use abortion as birth control. Having an abortion is a big decision that will still with a women the rest of her life. Women aren't getting pregnant every other weekend and then saying "Welp, I got drunk again and I'm pregnant, time for another abortion". This one was obnoxious.

These tweets are to show that he was still seeing clients when he was making these really mean and insenstive tweets. Would have talked to a client like he did in these tweets? I would have been uncomfortable to know that my therapist spoke like this when he was out of the office. All the while trying to help me to become a better person.
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These apologies these Youtubers are giving are just empty words to me. They say sorry, but really they are sorry they got caught. Lets discuss the underlying issues, and the people these words actually hurt. I'm tired of hearing the apologizes!

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Copying and pasting this from his thread:

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Politics:

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For this one, he's SO lucky that Connor Kennedy had turned 18 a few months earlier.

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He has a bunch of tweets making fun of Justin Bieber for looking "like a lesbian" which is weird considering Justin was like 16 at the time.

I'm sure there's a treasure trove of mess in his past.[/quote]

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Copying and pasting this tip on saving tweets from the other thread:

Since these idiots always delete their tweets, you should always archive the links before you expose them.

Just go here: https://archive.org/web/

Copy and paste the link of the tweet into the box that says "save page now" and the link to the tweet will be archived.

So for example, I archived this tweet:

If he deletes it, you'll be able to see it here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180905192 ... 6801953795

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*I hope that I worded this ok, and wasn't to redundant. I don't condon John's actions and I'm not out to bash Peter. I just wanted to look at this situation from a different perspective*

In light of Peters old tweets, I was wondering if we could have one more conversation about his tumblr(s)? Not the pedophile allegations, but how everyone completely dismissed Johns other claims. Last week when Peter's tweets came to light, he had viewers who blindly forgave him. They didn't care what Peter said, they just knew he could do no wrong. So does that not apply to what happened with John? Everyone hates John so much that they took Peters word. Even though there was some evidence that Peter may have in fact crossed their friendship line and made him uncomfortable.
Lets first take the emotional part of this completely out and look at them as two people.
John Kuckian is a broken young man. He is manipulative, irrational and down right mean. He has a jaded view of what acceptance looks like. He idolizes Jeffree on an unhealthy level, to the point that he copied one of this liquid lipcolor. Here's a blog about some of the things that John has donehttps://melaniewithanie.com/2017/12/01/ ... n-kuckian/
He has made false accusations towards other Youtubers. Along with keeping the actual truth to himself and allegedly extorting money from someone to keep quite. By his actions alone, it seems like he knows he can't be redeemed and more importantly people don't want him to be able to redeem himself. So he's going to keep self destructing. He has nothing to lose.

Peter Monn is a man in his 40's that used to work at a treatment center for youth. He counseled teens with substance abuse, physical abuse and other issues for 13 years. He saw first hand how vulnerable these kids were. They needed guidance and to feel safe. So when he befriended John, did he not recognize some of those traits that kids in treatment had? Or did Peter care more about growing his channel? Did he not see how broken and damaged Charles Gross was when he befriended him? Or did he also see another young youtuber who could help grow his channel? Peter has never been shy about wanting to be famous and have millions of followers, even when he passes it off as a joke sometimes. He does have a strange attraction to befriending these young, (but legal) guys. He's old enough to be their fathers. Again not illegal. But what did a 44 year old have in common with 22 year old guys? John and Charles aren't mature in the least, so what was there to talk about? Didn't both of them not have an issue with him trying to tell them how to run their channel? Didn't Charles say that Peter became too much in a now deleted video? Whatever happened between Charles and Peter is their own business. I won't even try and figure that out.

But it seems like no one took a step back after Johns video and realized something wasn't right. Everyone was rightfully angry about the allegations made. I think he was trying to reach out in a very wrong way. I don't think that he thought people would listen to him or believe him, especially since he already had a really bad reputation. Therefore he went in for slander for the ulitmate effect, and his message was lost. But as we just saw with Peter, the people you think you can trust can turn out to be liars. Johns actions are inexcusable and he should be punished. But are people going to beat him down and let him self destruct until he kills himself? People truly hate him so much, that they would be glad if he were gone. (They have vocally expressed this). Whats the point of no return, that people completely write somebody off?

That tumblr was indeed Peters. He actually had two. One was Pemovision that was deleted in 2014, and one was Peter Monn which was deleted in 2018 after the Kuckian drama. He was never shy about sharing the links. In his old tweets he would link his Pemovision. He would link the newer one in his older drama videos, blogs and twitter. So lets get that out of the way for whomever said that Peter didn't have a tumblr page.
Pemovision Tumblr:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pe ... umblr.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/*/pemovision.tumblr.com/*
Tweet about his old tumblr
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Peter Monn Tumblr:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pe ... umblr.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pe ... com/post/*
-Go to this old video and also has it linked there : https://youtu.be/vzE4qJ0_FHw

Now I want to make it very clear. From an adult point of view, while some of these pictures are racy, there wasn't anything that seemed inappropriate for anyone over 18.
With that being said, he deleted a lot of pictures from tumblr, which is why a lot of the links are broken or you see those black boxes. .

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But lets talk about those pictures on John's first video. Many speculated that they were photo shopped. While again I can not prove they weren't, Some of the links were visible in the video, and indeed took you back to Peters tumblr. It does come up as link no longer exists.

example: http://petermonn.tumblr.com/post/192001 ... t-to-14k-o
Im assuming that means that is used to be there, but because the picture was deleted, it obviously won't show up?

the post : Why is everyone afraid of nudity was liked by 5 people. 2 of the accounts no longer exist and the other two belonged to adults. So John had no merit there unless the two deleted accounts were underage.

One thing that was glossed over by people, was John asking, "would a parent feel comfortable with sending their child for therapy, when this was their public account?" Not the alleged sexual pictures. But the ones that can be viewed and are visible. I would feel uneasy, just because somethings are meant to be private. Again, post all the chiseled hot body men. But make it private or harder for people to find, especially from a professional point of view. He also said that Peter was harassing him for a year. Did Peter not keep making videos about John up to the big explosion? I wrote a post on him continually poking the bear, knowing that everyone has a breaking point. John punked Peter not once but twice. People don't usually go for the jugglar unless they really feel like they've been wronged. Again I am no way siding or excusing John's behavior. There will be lifelong consequences of his actions.


Why did no one bring up the fact that Peter was counseling adolescence at this time? Peter said that he was counseling and a life coach up to a year ago. That's probably the biggest issue I have. I didn't want to speculate on the photos that aren't there. But Im going to, none of those boys looked underage, so even if those pictures were on his page, it wasn't illegal. But Peter was in a position of authority. He was counseling vulnerable adolescent teens, who maybe went through that type of abuse. So why was that something that he would have portrayed in his blog and it being something that might excite him? I just can't help but think that if this was a young women making these accusations against a man, this would have turned out a lot differently. Even if she had the reputation that John does. If an 45 year old man left a message for a 22 yr old woman, like the one at the end of the video. People would think he was icky. Only Peter knows what those pictures were that he deleted. But remember, not everything that is deleted on the internet is gone forever.

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Peter was not counseling individuals last year. In fact he has not counseled anyone in quite some time. He does maintain the office space (his father picks up the tab as a tax write-off) and he claimed up to a year ago that he was working with a company developing a leadership development program, but it never manifested. He also never wrote the second book he was supposed to deliver. Now he makes four videos a day, recycling the same nonsensical word vomit in the videos that his viewers listen to as their eyes glaze over while they drive through McDonalds or sit through another soccer game.
Alex does all the work at the website, Peter pretends to be YouTube famous, and Daddy Monn pays to keep the lights on.
And they all pretend to be happy.

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NEW PETER MONN TWEETS:

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I think that we need to discuss what is and isn't actually wrong and shocking, versus what just feels wrong.

Peter is an older man, and even if we find it creepy that he lusts over younger men? If they're legal, then they're legal. If Peter were an 80 year old man lusting over someone who had just turned 18? Legal and, as gross as it feels, not something that we can get heated over.

That being said, we need to talk about Peter's Tumblr. Kuckian went after Peter over his Tumblr in 2017 (I believe), but back in early 2013 at the very least, Peter's Tumblr blog had this disclaimer at the top:

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So the blog was for 18+. A predator would not advertise that their blog is NSFW, and he stated that he would remove anything if asked to do so. I honestly do not believe that he would put anything predatory on there. The NSFW images shared would be from Tumblr porn blogs or found elsewhere on the internet (as he apparently is pretty thirsty when it comes to the NSFW), and just because there's a quick glance of a model that's shaved their chest or in BDSM situations, that does not make it illegal or predatory. There's nothing wrong with someone that expresses their sexuality in their own way legally, even if there are times when we don't like it or find it creepy. And there's nothing wrong with someone that has a younger audience having a space that they designate as being 18+ to express themselves, because at that point, well, minors should have parents/guardians that monitor their internet activities. Peter is gross for a lot of reasons, but I don't think that it's fair that people are dragging him for having an old, NSFW space for himself and whichever just-as-thirsty adult fans that he had that liked following him.

There also needs to be a discussion about the tweets shared from Tumblr, too.

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This is literally just what happened when you shared a Tumblr post onto Twitter. A Tumblr user with the screenname of "werqbitch" asked a question, "idk what's new? whats good in da hood" was their question, and then the Tumblr link to that post is added onto the end. Nothing racist or shady from Peter on that specific occasion, to be fair. A fair number of tweets have been saved and shown as examples of what Peter has said, and it's just not that deep. He found a post that he liked and then clicked "share to Twitter." So if you see any tweet that ends with a Tumblr link and has a word or word-dash-phrase then a colon, it's just a share, not a slur/etc.

Back in the day, when you retweeted someone else on Twitter, "RT" would appear at the beginning, so although Peter will have shared some highly problematic tweets, he didn't write them himself. Whatever appeared before the "RT" were Peter's typed words.

I just thought that I'd write this out for anyone that wasn't aware of those things and who jumped when they saw a shocking Tumblr user name, thinking that Peter had thrown out slurs or anything gross when he had just shared something, most likely in innocence when it came from Tumblr.

And I'd like to add that archive.is is less messy to work with than the Wayback Machine. But that's just my opinion, ha.

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auntiemags wrote: That being said, we need to talk about Peter's Tumblr. Kuckian went after Peter over his Tumblr in 2017 (I believe), but back in early 2013 at the very least, Peter's Tumblr blog had this disclaimer at the top:

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[Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20130414213 ... 0997958071]

So the blog was for 18+. A predator would not advertise that their blog is NSFW, and he stated that he would remove anything if asked to do so. I honestly do not believe that he would put anything predatory on there. The NSFW images shared would be from Tumblr porn blogs or found elsewhere on the internet (as he apparently is pretty thirsty when it comes to the NSFW), and just because there's a quick glance of a model that's shaved their chest or in BDSM situations, that does not make it illegal or predatory. There's nothing wrong with someone that expresses their sexuality in their own way legally, even if there are times when we don't like it or find it creepy. And there's nothing wrong with someone that has a younger audience having a space that they designate as being 18+ to express themselves, because at that point, well, minors should have parents/guardians that monitor their internet activities. Peter is gross for a lot of reasons, but I don't think that it's fair that people are dragging him for having an old, NSFW space for himself and whichever just-as-thirsty adult fans that he had that liked following him.
You do realize that the Pemovision tumblr wasnt the one John questioned right? This one was deleted way before the accusations. The tumblr in question was the second tumblr which he created a couple years ago. All the info is in my post above. It's also addressed that Peter's tweets while racy weren't illegal. But he was also counseling at the time. It's very unprofessional to share a tumblr like that on your platforms your clients could come across. Have one but put it on private. People have been fired for much less.

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auntiemags wrote:
That being said, we need to talk about Peter's Tumblr. Kuckian went after Peter over his Tumblr in 2017 (I believe), but back in early 2013 at the very least, Peter's Tumblr blog had this disclaimer at the top:

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[Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20130414213 ... 0997958071]
You do realize this isn't even the tumblr in question right? As stated and linked in my post above, this one was deleted years before the accusations. His newer one was the one in question and it didnt have a NSFW warning. Also even though I didnt see anything illegal on what's left of the tumblr. It's very unprofessional to add those links to your social media. Links that your clients could easily find. If Peter was into that stuff, fine. But put it on private or put it under another name not associated to the name you use for business. Those people dont need to know what your into that you get your rocks off to.

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NEW PETER TWEETS COMPILATION - COMPLETE.
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RACIST TWEETS

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MOCKING MENTAL ILLNESS / LEARNING DISABILITIES

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TALKING ABOUT CLIENTS ON TWITTER

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MOCKING PEOPLE WITH DWARFISM

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^ Dude, you already posted the “food stamps and pleather boots” tweet on Tuesday and it wasn’t new then either. Peter even addressed it in his second so-called apology video. You should go back and read the part 7 thread.

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OK, so this post will probably be huge, because it was a huge clusterfuck that Peter started on Twitter on his @peterlikesbooks account, which is for his booktube channel. Basically Peter got into a fight about diversity with several POC and Alex jumped in acting like the antagonistic jackass that he is.

Some tweets have been deleted. Others won't show up in screencaps because some of these people still have Peter blocked ( :rofl: ).

Peter did post a video responding to this whole mess on his booktube channel, but it was basically him saying the phrase "I take full accountability" and "I want to remain teachable" while continuing to tone police minorities (he said people should teach him nicely and that if anyone speaks to him in an angry way he "probably won't hear that") and also making excuses.

I archived these tweets and will include links later. Apparently "hundreds" of people were coming for him for being an idiot so I couldn't find everything, but I tried my best to include a few relevant arguments.

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Just some of Peter Pan Moan's drug use lies

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Originally posted here: viewtopic.php?f=569&t=33768&p=3216973&h ... k#p3216973

All I can say is that the more he tells the story, the more his daily drug use increases. Check it out:

Peter Monn channel Oct 17 2016
Daily drug use by the time he was 22:
5th and a half of Jack Daniels a day
2 Colt 45 Malt liquors
4-5 Vicodin A day
Smoking crack cocaine
Smoking weed all day long

Peter Monn channel Sept 14 2017
By 17 he was a daily drinker.
Says he went to jail. “I’ve done my time in jail”.
Daily drug use by the time he was 22:
5th a a half of Jack Daniels
2-3 Colt 45 malt liquor
8th of Marijuana a day
a gram of cocaine
smoking rock cocaine
4-10 Vicodin a day

Peterisms channel March 21 2018
Drug use by the time he was 22:
5th and a half to 2/5ths of Jack Daniels
6-10 Vicodin a day
A colt 45 malt liquor
Smoking marijuana all day long
Snorting cocaine
Using rock cocaine

Oh and he was in treatment 4 weeks






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Lying one day apart he's that much of a liar

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Here's Peter lying only one day apart because he can't even keep his story straight from day to day.

In his Best Friends Tribute (Peterisms) Feb 8 2018, Peter says Tonya has been to every life event in his life for the past 21 years, complete with tears. @ 8.21

But in the Feb 7 2018 vlog, My Wedding, he says Tonya didn’t go to his wedding. @ 28:43.

Isn’t your wedding a main life event? This is only one day apart he said these things.

There's other vlogs and videos where he has said she wasn't at his mom's funeral either. So, another major life event she wasn't at.

I wonder if Good Judy Tonya watched this tribute video to her and clocked his lies too.




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Withmylittleeye recommended I post this newspaper article here. It was published on January 1, 2004 in The Indiana Star. Labels Peter as a counselor, not a psychotherapist, and confirms he had a cocaine addiction, which someone had questions about.

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