Bratayley: Goodbye MD. Hello CALI! (Pt 10)

[Lisatheacrobat]

One last thing....where is the bunny?? We've seen TONS of dog footage, and even Luna, but I haven't heard one mention of Frizbee since they have been in Maryland.

They mentioned in one of the LA vlogs Hayley had been crying over being told they won't take the bunny to LA, cause it would most likely die from stress. I am assuming they have already given her over to whoever took care of her when they weren't in MD to avoid upsetting Hayley.

Have they outright said that they gave Luna back to amanda or are they planning to find a place for the horse in LA where there is no land with people the horse has no bond with simplycauss they “own it”

[lmmomSD]

One last thing....where is the bunny?? We've seen TONS of dog footage, and even Luna, but I haven't heard one mention of Frizbee since they have been in Maryland.

They mentioned in one of the LA vlogs Hayley had been crying over being told they won't take the bunny to LA, cause it would most likely die from stress. I am assuming they have already given her over to whoever took care of her when they weren't in MD to avoid upsetting Hayley.

Have they outright said that they gave Luna back to amanda or are they planning to find a place for the horse in LA where there is no land with people the horse has no bond with simplycauss they “own it”

It would be a huge pain to move her across country. They would have to hire a professional to trailer her and drive her across. Billy couldn't do it. He has no experience trailering a horse. And Luna is young and inexperienced. She might not trailer easily. I doubt they'll move her across country.

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[lmmomSD]

One last thing....where is the bunny?? We've seen TONS of dog footage, and even Luna, but I haven't heard one mention of Frizbee since they have been in Maryland.

They mentioned in one of the LA vlogs Hayley had been crying over being told they won't take the bunny to LA, cause it would most likely die from stress. I am assuming they have already given her over to whoever took care of her when they weren't in MD to avoid upsetting Hayley.

Have they outright said that they gave Luna back to amanda or are they planning to find a place for the horse in LA where there is no land with people the horse has no bond with simplycauss they “own it”

It would be a huge pain to move her across country. They would have to hire a professional to trailer her and drive her across. Billy couldn't do it. He has no experience trailering a horse. And Luna is young and inexperienced. She might not trailer easily. I doubt they'll move her across country.

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[Lisatheacrobat]

One last thing....where is the bunny?? We've seen TONS of dog footage, and even Luna, but I haven't heard one mention of Frizbee since they have been in Maryland.

They mentioned in one of the LA vlogs Hayley had been crying over being told they won't take the bunny to LA, cause it would most likely die from stress. I am assuming they have already given her over to whoever took care of her when they weren't in MD to avoid upsetting Hayley.

Have they outright said that they gave Luna back to amanda or are they planning to find a place for the horse in LA where there is no land with people the horse has no bond with simplycauss they “own it”

It would be a huge pain to move her across country. They would have to hire a professional to trailer her and drive her across. Billy couldn't do it. He has no experience trailering a horse. And Luna is young and inexperienced. She might not trailer easily. I doubt they'll move her across country.

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But they haven’t said anything saying they are or are not taking Luna? I feel like if Annie begged him he would fork out the funds to make sure his bread winner is happy so she will continue to entertain the masses. All it would take is one song release and they would make up the cost of the transport in revenue not even considering Adsense. So I am sure money isn’t the issue but more of are they going to be that selfish to an animal by stressing it out trailering it across the country to live in Southern California where there’s no space to run and no playmates justso that when Annie feels like riding her once in a blue moon she can do so. Or have her around to be the perfect prop for an Instagram photo shoot.

[lmmomSD]

I don't think they have actually said anything. They did actually say that they aren't taking the bunny. But _I_ haven't heard anything one way or another about Luna. Don't know if anyone else has.

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[JetpackBlue]

I am assuming they take it as obvious that Luna is not coming with them. Besides, Annie is way over her horse phase, I don't think she'd want to take care of it over in LA or even have her around that much. Especially knowing Luna is not going to take mishandling as she is still young and has her temper.

[Lisatheacrobat]

I am assuming they take it as obvious that Luna is not coming with them. Besides, Annie is way over her horse phase, I don't think she'd want to take care of it over in LA or even have her around that much. Especially knowing Luna is not going to take mishandling as she is still young and has her temper.

I wonder if they sold Luna back or just said to Amanda’s mom we can’t take the horse with us so we relinquish ownership or if they got their money back or what happened there? It just seems like such a waste of money to “surprise” Annie with a horse for 4M subs that she saw three or four times for like a few hours in the day. After she begged and begged them for a horse. I know we talk often about how much these people waste their money, but that’s several thousands of dollars that was basically wasted because as usual Annie wanted something but didn’t *really* want it. I just am curious how they are gonna handle that when you’re talking thousands of dollars. Hayley’s bunny was less than a hundred total including cage and accessories. But that’s a LOT of money to waste for something that after getting it she didn’t care too much about. Like the piano and the camera and whatever else she *has* to have but never uses or touch’s once she owns it.

[JetpackBlue]

I am assuming they take it as obvious that Luna is not coming with them. Besides, Annie is way over her horse phase, I don't think she'd want to take care of it over in LA or even have her around that much. Especially knowing Luna is not going to take mishandling as she is still young and has her temper.

I wonder if they sold Luna back or just said to Amanda’s mom we can’t take the horse with us so we relinquish ownership or if they got their money back or what happened there? It just seems like such a waste of money to “surprise” Annie with a horse for 4M subs that she saw three or four times for like a few hours in the day. After she begged and begged them for a horse. I know we talk often about how much these people waste their money, but that’s several thousands of dollars that was basically wasted because as usual Annie wanted something but didn’t *really* want it. I just am curious how they are gonna handle that when you’re talking thousands of dollars. Hayley’s bunny was less than a hundred total including cage and accessories. But that’s a LOT of money to waste for something that after getting it she didn’t care too much about. Like the piano and the camera and whatever else she *has* to have but never uses or touch’s once she owns it.

The thing is, it is not Annie's fault. She is a normal kid that has the "I want it for fifteen minutes" moments, the problem here is her parents that will do anything to keep the moneymaker motivated. No one wants to watch a sulking teenager, so they end up getting her a horse, a camera, etc. I wouldn't be suprised (if the youtube thing keeps rolling) she ends up being one of those kids that get a car before they are even close to getting a permit. Annie is a brat because she is allowed to be.

Annie is a deeply insecure teenager who copies her friends behaviours and hobbies, beacause she knows she can get anything in the world she would want. Her parents only feed into her insecurities as she learns that everyhthing will always be taken care for her, she just needs to look pretty and be entertaining. Being in front of such a large audience from a young age has has it's toll on her, so now she believs she has to have perfect teeth, long lashes, always styled hair and whatever else in order to be liked and she doesn't have a parent that would tell her she's alright as she is. Her parents are more her dysfunctional friends than caretakers, so Annie is left with a lot of money, insecurity and misguidance.

[lmmomSD]

Oh, it's definitely not Annie's fault. If they had said that if they got a horse, she was going to have to at least participate in the care of it, and held her to that, either she would have gotten over the "I want a horse" thing a lot quicker, or would have actually put the effort into it. Of she had really wanted to see her horse, they would have taken her. It's partly Billy's fault for buying her a horse that was completely unsuitable for her, just because she wanted a black and white pony. That whole "Here's your horse, but you can't ride her because I didn't know what I was doing, and didn't listen to someone who did" was obviously a disappointment for her. But like you said, they give her whatever she wants whenever she wants it, so she doesn't have to stick with anything.
She won't be able to stick with anything, because she's never been taught how, past maybe a little bit of gymnastics. She doesn't have to work for anything, or stick with anything.

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[keliza]

I wonder what would have happened if they had gotten the horse but were actually around instead of getting it right before they started spending so much time in California. Even if she wanted to take care of her more than she actually did, she would not have had much opportunity. And she was on the tail end of the common horse obsessed age. I wanted one at nine or ten too, not so much by twelve or thirteen.

Of course it is also the parent committing at that age... It isn't like she could drive herself to the horse. I have trouble seeing them go through the effort of taking her there regularly when they would rather lie around in bed or watch movies. And like kids who promise to take care of a pet but then Mom or Dad end up walking the dog or scooping the kitty litter... Most kids are capable of caring for the animal but need help learning commitment. Gymnastics had commitment but it was more formal and didn't take parental willpower. Of course they stopped taking gym seriously around the same time as the horse because California. And peak parental laziness.

As for her other expensive toys, Annie earns money but not in the way most kids do. If she had to save up for a camera by babysitting or mowing lawns or whatever she might either really want that camera by the time she earned it or might decide not to spend the money because she would rather use it in another way. Who knows how much money Annie "has" but it is clear it doesn't mean anything to her. None of the L's seem to have any concept of money management. The kids are going to have it rough when they grow up and money doesn't magically appear.

[LimeGreenRanger]

So, I always wondered if Avia Butler would've had the "success" Annie has had the Shaytards not stopped vlogging. Now they're back, and Avia is releasing a song and music video next week...I'm wondering how it'll compare to Annie's songs? Avia isn't the next Beyonce, but I know Avia's family is musically inclined and it seems like she actually practices every now and then.

[lmmomSD]

I wonder what would have happened if they had gotten the horse but were actually around instead of getting it right before they started spending so much time in California. Even if she wanted to take care of her more than she actually did, she would not have had much opportunity. And she was on the tail end of the common horse obsessed age. I wanted one at nine or ten too, not so much by twelve or thirteen.

Of course it is also the parent committing at that age... It isn't like she could drive herself to the horse. I have trouble seeing them go through the effort of taking her there regularly when they would rather lie around in bed or watch movies. And like kids who promise to take care of a pet but then Mom or Dad end up walking the dog or scooping the kitty litter... Most kids are capable of caring for the animal but need help learning commitment. Gymnastics had commitment but it was more formal and didn't take parental willpower. Of course they stopped taking gym seriously around the same time as the horse because California. And peak parental laziness.

As for her other expensive toys, Annie earns money but not in the way most kids do. If she had to save up for a camera by babysitting or mowing lawns or whatever she might either really want that camera by the time she earned it or might decide not to spend the money because she would rather use it in another way. Who knows how much money Annie "has" but it is clear it doesn't mean anything to her. None of the L's seem to have any concept of money management. The kids are going to have it rough when they grow up and money doesn't magically appear.

The thing is, though, that I really believe, maybe wrongly so, that if Annie pushed to see her horse, they would have gotten her out there to see her more often. What Annie wants, Annie gets. Of course, Billy and Katie allow her to be lazy, because they're lazy too, but if she had really wanted to, she would have pouted about it, and they would have gotten her out there. I also wonder what would have happened if Billy had gotten a horse Annie could ride. It must have been a huge disappointment to her: surprise! Here's your horse! But you can't ride her, and won't be able to for probably a year! Yay!

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[Lisatheacrobat]

If she had gotten a horse she could have ridden, do you think they still would have gone down the same road that she went? It seems like this celebrity thing is just a quick attempt for vlog content than it is Annie fulfilling a dream she has talked about wanting and that she had been working for for years prior to this. To me it seems like she is just out there trying to be an actress and singer more for them to have something to do than because she had actually wanted it.

[tomorrow100]

Even when she was with the horse, she didnt make the effort to actually properly learned. She would’ve rather sat there and shoved her hands up the horses noses, call them cute all day long and worry about her braids fitting under her helmet rather then getting stuck in and helping Amanda and her mother.

She barely begged to go see Luna, even if her parents dropped her off first thing and pick her up last. There are plenty of things to do up a stables to keep a kid who doesn’t know anything occupied but they never did that. It was only for an hour every so often... what was the point?

I hope Luna stays in MD or gets sold on. I don’t see the LeBlancs spending a fortune to ship a horse across the country for someone else to look after while they never go see the poor thing

[vmars87]

I always figured it, but interesting to actually know that annie is technically underweight.

[chloesweb85]

I always figured it, but interesting to actually know that annie is technically underweight.

I just saw an Instagram of her weighing herself. Ive always been small like Annie (im actually an inch shorter and an adult). I don’t have a problem with her weight, as she hits puberty she will naturally grow, but why would Katie put that in a vlog. Sooo many girls are self conscious and weight obsessed at that age. It seems really irresponsible. That’s the second time Katie has broadcasted her weight in only a few months.

[waterynames]

I always figured it, but interesting to actually know that annie is technically underweight.

I just saw an Instagram of her weighing herself. Ive always been small like Annie (im actually an inch shorter and an adult). I don’t have a problem with her weight, as she hits puberty she will naturally grow, but why would Katie put that in a vlog. Sooo many girls are self conscious and weight obsessed at that age. It seems really irresponsible. That’s the second time Katie has broadcasted her weight in only a few months.

You're right. Why would they put that in a vlog when they know full well there are so many girls who look up to Annie? I'm sure most of them aren't underweight and, at that age, it's pretty likely some of them are actually overweight. And I'm also sure there are girls who are perfectly slim but weigh more than Annie just because their bodies aren't shaped like hers but who might want to get to Annie's weight nevertheless. Do the LeBlancs ever consider the consequences of their actions?

My guess is Katie probably wasn't underweight when she was Annie's age but she'd have liked to be, and as she's living vicariously through Annie now, telling the world her weight might make her feel better about herself, somehow. It's like she's getting to be the teenager she always wished she was. And that's just... plain sad. Katie desperately needs a life of her own, something that's just hers, and friends that are her age. Most of the time she seems pretty lonely, and I feel bad for her.

[Mark]

Disgusted to no end........ The LeBlanc's are sending the dogs to live with (someone) in Louisiana. Billy's driving them there in a rented vehicle.

Yeah, let's get rid of everything that reminds us of our old life. Disgusting.

I sincerely feel so bad for those dogs. I don't own one, but I do know that they have feelings. The poor things..... being, in a sense, abandoned.

[mzkitteh]

Disgusted to no end........ The LeBlanc's are sending the dogs to live with (someone) in Louisiana. Billy's driving them there in a rented vehicle.

Yeah, let's get rid of everything that reminds us of our old life. Disgusting.

I sincerely feel so bad for those dogs. I don't own one, but I do know that they have feelings. The poor things..... being, in a sense, abandoned.

This INFURIATED me. I couldn't even continue to watch the vlog. They are going to stay with the grandmother. YAYYYYY the girls are SO HAPPY. Because they'll be able to visit Nonnie and the dogs at the same time!!!!!! Seriously......... how often to they EVER travel to visit family? And I guess all the vlogs until they actually leave Md. will be about reminding us that they are heading back to LA soon. This family is officially Hollywoodised and that will never change. Any sense of humbleness is completely gone.

[lmmomSD]

Disgusted to no end........ The LeBlanc's are sending the dogs to live with (someone) in Louisiana. Billy's driving them there in a rented vehicle.

Yeah, let's get rid of everything that reminds us of our old life. Disgusting.

I sincerely feel so bad for those dogs. I don't own one, but I do know that they have feelings. The poor things..... being, in a sense, abandoned.

This INFURIATED me. I couldn't even continue to watch the vlog. They are going to stay with the grandmother. YAYYYYY the girls are SO HAPPY. Because they'll be able to visit Nonnie and the dogs at the same time!!!!!! Seriously......... how often to they EVER travel to visit family? And I guess all the vlogs until they actually leave Md. will be about reminding us that they are heading back to LA soon. This family is officially Hollywoodised and that will never change. Any sense of humbleness is completely gone.

Ugh. That's all I can say. They _say_ they miss their "puppies" SOOOO much, and then first chance they get, pass them off on someone else. Pets aren't family members to them. They're vlog footage and disposable props, from Frisbee to Luna and now the dogs. I wonder if they will ever move the dogs to LA. I honestly hope not. Those dogs have got to be so confused!!

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