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LifesaBeach wrote:Yessss so happy there’s a thread for him! Sick and tired of his lies


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Lies, defamation, manipulation, victim, his tone. Heck yeah he deserves a thread.
I'm just here for the giggles.

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Re: John "Chief Exaggeration Officer" Crookian - Part 5

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Banannie wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Banannie wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Banannie wrote:All the "oxfoliate" discussion is valid, but can we sit for a minute and talk about toxic ingredients. I don't know if that was discussed before but it's concerning as fuck.
Lethalcosmetics analyzed his ingredients on this page: http://gurugossiper.com/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=250

Idk what is allegedly toxic in there. I would think lethalcosmetics would say if anything in there was of concern.
fair enough. but isn't concerning how difficult is to FIND the ingredients? do you remember how some brands were caught omitting toxic ingredients?

anyways... on the topic a person said listed these ingredients:

LIPSTICK / 6 ml / 0.2 fl.oz. / INGREDIENTS: ISODODECANE, DIMETHICONE, MICROCRYSTALLINE, DIISOSTERARYL MALATE, TRIMETHYSILOXYSILICATE, POLYMETHYLSILSESQUIOXANE, DISTEARDIMONIUM HECTORITE, SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS SEED EXTRACT, METHYLMETHACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, PHENOXYETHANOL/ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, VITAMIN E, PROPYLENE CARBONATE

I heard a youtuber talk about METHYLMETHACRYLATE and how controversial it is. i didn't find anything substantially related to cosmetics but i ain't buying this sketchy ass makeup until some organization gives it a pass. i saw an article but it was related to dentistry.
He used Methyl Methacrylate Crosspolymer as a texturing agent. It has been ruled safe. Youtubers are morons.
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I don't think L'Oreal would use it if it is dangerous.

For the scientifically oriented:
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I saw the same website. It's like the first. That's why I said I didn't find anything substantial. i think loreal is concerned about selling. they buy every company and they create an empire. look at deodorants that still use aluminum.
From the second site, there are 187 beauty products listed that have this crosspolymer. Some of the brands include Physicians Formula, Rimmel, CoverGirl, L'Oreal, KKW, Maybelline, Philosophy, Revlon, Wet n Wild, Almay, Aveeno, Benefit, etc. Leathalcosmetics seemed fairly comfortable identifying it as a texturing agent. I personally don't know anything about cosmetic formulation but it seems to be an industry standard if that many companies used it.

https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/browse.php ... iXywEqnFPY
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Really hoping I didn’t double post and apologies if I did.

This is going to sound like a Peter Monn post but I swear it’s kuckian related. I have not been on GG in a while but just came flying back in over something I caught to see if anyone else did. I was scrolling my twitter feed, minding my own business when an Auto tweet pops up from Peter Monn “ I liked a video on YouTube” when I saw what it was, I immediately replied but he has already deleted the tweet.

Is this drama all bull crap? If some little loser threatened legal action against me, slandered my name, etc. I’d not be liking his videos. Something shady is going on. Is this all for views?

<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=d72hj" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/d72hj.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

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usecodejacattack2017 wrote:Really hoping I didn’t double post and apologies if I did.

This is going to sound like a Peter Monn post but I swear it’s kuckian related. I have not been on GG in a while but just came flying back in over something I caught to see if anyone else did. I was scrolling my twitter feed, minding my own business when an Auto tweet pops up from Peter Monn “ I liked a video on YouTube” when I saw what it was, I immediately replied but he has already deleted the tweet.

Is this drama all bull crap? If some little loser threatened legal action against me, slandered my name, etc. I’d not be liking his videos. Something shady is going on. Is this all for views?

<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=d72hj" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/d72hj.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
I noticed that too. He had something else but deleted it before I saw what it was. Maybe fat fingers? I know he is probably stalking Kuckian atm to see if he is mentioned. IMO, he seems genuinely heated in his Kuckian videos :rofl:

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Banannie wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Banannie wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Banannie wrote:All the "oxfoliate" discussion is valid, but can we sit for a minute and talk about toxic ingredients. I don't know if that was discussed before but it's concerning as fuck.
Lethalcosmetics analyzed his ingredients on this page: http://gurugossiper.com/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=250

Idk what is allegedly toxic in there. I would think lethalcosmetics would say if anything in there was of concern.
fair enough. but isn't concerning how difficult is to FIND the ingredients? do you remember how some brands were caught omitting toxic ingredients?

anyways... on the topic a person said listed these ingredients:

LIPSTICK / 6 ml / 0.2 fl.oz. / INGREDIENTS: ISODODECANE, DIMETHICONE, MICROCRYSTALLINE, DIISOSTERARYL MALATE, TRIMETHYSILOXYSILICATE, POLYMETHYLSILSESQUIOXANE, DISTEARDIMONIUM HECTORITE, SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS SEED EXTRACT, METHYLMETHACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, PHENOXYETHANOL/ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, VITAMIN E, PROPYLENE CARBONATE

I heard a youtuber talk about METHYLMETHACRYLATE and how controversial it is. i didn't find anything substantially related to cosmetics but i ain't buying this sketchy ass makeup until some organization gives it a pass. i saw an article but it was related to dentistry.
He used Methyl Methacrylate Crosspolymer as a texturing agent. It has been ruled safe. Youtubers are morons.
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I don't think L'Oreal would use it if it is dangerous.

For the scientifically oriented:
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I saw the same website. It's like the first. That's why I said I didn't find anything substantial. i think loreal is concerned about selling. they buy every company and they create an empire. look at deodorants that still use aluminum.
Because there isn't clear scientific evidence to link it to breast cancer.
Banannie wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Banannie wrote:All the "oxfoliate" discussion is valid, but can we sit for a minute and talk about toxic ingredients. I don't know if that was discussed before but it's concerning as fuck.
Lethalcosmetics analyzed his ingredients on this page: http://gurugossiper.com/viewtopic.php?f ... &start=250

Idk what is allegedly toxic in there. I would think lethalcosmetics would say if anything in there was of concern.
fair enough. but isn't concerning how difficult is to FIND the ingredients? do you remember how some brands were caught omitting toxic ingredients?

anyways... on the topic a person said listed these ingredients:

LIPSTICK / 6 ml / 0.2 fl.oz. / INGREDIENTS: ISODODECANE, DIMETHICONE, MICROCRYSTALLINE, DIISOSTERARYL MALATE, TRIMETHYSILOXYSILICATE, POLYMETHYLSILSESQUIOXANE, DISTEARDIMONIUM HECTORITE, SIMMONDSIA CHINENSIS SEED EXTRACT, METHYLMETHACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, PHENOXYETHANOL/ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, VITAMIN E, PROPYLENE CARBONATE

I heard a youtuber talk about METHYLMETHACRYLATE and how controversial it is. i didn't find anything substantially related to cosmetics but i ain't buying this sketchy ass makeup until some organization gives it a pass. i saw an article but it was related to dentistry.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10. ... %3Dpubmed&
It's fine from the FDAs point of view. It was weird that he took so long to post the ingredients, but I can't find anything to fault them by.

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sweetbabyjesus wrote:

Brings up interesting points about Kuckian’s supposed art career.
The Josh Show is investigating him!!!! He will go extra miles to verify everything John Kuckian said/claimed then debunk all the lies.
Can't wait for more videos!!

Btw, John, don't bother to threaten Josh with law suit, he has his legal team looks at the materials and scripts before filming and he's in Japan.

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yadayadayeah wrote:
usecodejacattack2017 wrote:Really hoping I didn’t double post and apologies if I did.

This is going to sound like a Peter Monn post but I swear it’s kuckian related. I have not been on GG in a while but just came flying back in over something I caught to see if anyone else did. I was scrolling my twitter feed, minding my own business when an Auto tweet pops up from Peter Monn “ I liked a video on YouTube” when I saw what it was, I immediately replied but he has already deleted the tweet.

Is this drama all bull crap? If some little loser threatened legal action against me, slandered my name, etc. I’d not be liking his videos. Something shady is going on. Is this all for views?

<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=d72hj" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/d72hj.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
I noticed that too. He had something else but deleted it before I saw what it was. Maybe fat fingers? I know he is probably stalking Kuckian atm to see if he is mentioned. IMO, he seems genuinely heated in his Kuckian videos :rofl:

You’re right. I was letting myself get worked up thinking they were conning is for views but I’m sure it was like when your deep, deep in someone’s Insta and like a photo from July 17, 2015 lol

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dailysunshine wrote:
sweetbabyjesus wrote:

Brings up interesting points about Kuckian’s supposed art career.
The Josh Show is investigating him!!!! He will go extra miles to verify everything John Kuckian said/claimed then debunk all the lies.
Can't wait for more videos!!

Btw, John, don't bother to threaten Josh with law suit, he has his legal team looks at the materials and scripts before filming and he's in Japan.
I watched his video. At least he did something fresh, unlike the other drama channels. Have you spoken to the guy before? Someone should have him call Chantel Rahme and Gi Picco's and see if they have any affiliation with Kuckian. I am sure that would be interesting to watch. :rofl:

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I'm getting so sick of his snapchat. WHy is he just NOW swatching everything? lmao is this the first time he's gotten his hands on his entire collection so he can actually play with it?

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usecodejacattack2017 wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
usecodejacattack2017 wrote:Really hoping I didn’t double post and apologies if I did.

This is going to sound like a Peter Monn post but I swear it’s kuckian related. I have not been on GG in a while but just came flying back in over something I caught to see if anyone else did. I was scrolling my twitter feed, minding my own business when an Auto tweet pops up from Peter Monn “ I liked a video on YouTube” when I saw what it was, I immediately replied but he has already deleted the tweet.

Is this drama all bull crap? If some little loser threatened legal action against me, slandered my name, etc. I’d not be liking his videos. Something shady is going on. Is this all for views?

<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=d72hj" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/d72hj.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
I noticed that too. He had something else but deleted it before I saw what it was. Maybe fat fingers? I know he is probably stalking Kuckian atm to see if he is mentioned. IMO, he seems genuinely heated in his Kuckian videos :rofl:

You’re right. I was letting myself get worked up thinking they were conning is for views but I’m sure it was like when your deep, deep in someone’s Insta and like a photo from July 17, 2015 lol
Allegedly John threatened to sue Peter so I am sure Peter is watching John's social media like a hound. Moaning peter monn also mentioned doing a video (7th one thus far? lol) about the whole lawsuit thing soon, so who knows.

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I honestly think the delay in posting, which btw it's still not on his website, is that there isn't anything special in his ingredients like he was saying he had. Just more scamming.

I saw The Josh Show video, yea the art career stunt was a good thing to cover. Just goes to show how much Krookian can lie. It'd be great if he would do an interview with Krookian.

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Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

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Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?

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yadayadayeah wrote:Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

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Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?

Is that meant to be SALvage or SAVage?

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yadayadayeah wrote:Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

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Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?
I've seen a few posts about the numbers of his orders, can I ask how on earth are people figuring this out? Is it based on actual numbers or just guess work? x

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so I found his dad's twitter account I believe (or someone related to him... they all live at the same address or did), his bother's middle name is also crookian (odd), and his mom is also listed at the same address. I wonder if these people really don't see (or don't care?) what this lunatic is up to. I know he said he left at 17, but surely at least his brother has informed them of his apparent issues. Sad really.
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Helenanders wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

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Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?
I've seen a few posts about the numbers of his orders, can I ask how on earth are people figuring this out? Is it based on actual numbers or just guess work? x
Those are his "inventory" numbers as reported by his Shopify. I had made a master post showing his number progression from 11/15 till like 12/2? Anyway, on 12/2 the pigment number is 194. It's now up to that and IDK why lol. Would be hilarious if it because of cancellations :rofl:

Hmm, I wonder if this is a result of this "warehouse" problem that "cancelled" the orders? Don't tell me he legit sold pigment + lipkit to that many people :rofl:
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yadayadayeah wrote:
Helenanders wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

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Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?
I've seen a few posts about the numbers of his orders, can I ask how on earth are people figuring this out? Is it based on actual numbers or just guess work? x
Those are his "inventory" numbers as reported by his Shopify. I had made a master post showing his number progression from 11/15 till like 12/2? Anyway, on 12/2 the pigment number is 194. It's now up to that and IDK why lol. Would be hilarious if it because of cancellations :rofl:

Offtopic: Sorry guys, I can't respond to PMs. Troll status and all :roll:
I wonder if this is in the meantime till the orders get resent w/o the preorders?

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LeGarconBleu wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:
Helenanders wrote:
yadayadayeah wrote:Last time I checked he was at 194 on the pigments. Look what it is now.

Image

Did he get a bunch of cancellations?

Finally fix his inventory numbers?
I've seen a few posts about the numbers of his orders, can I ask how on earth are people figuring this out? Is it based on actual numbers or just guess work? x
Those are his "inventory" numbers as reported by his Shopify. I had made a master post showing his number progression from 11/15 till like 12/2? Anyway, on 12/2 the pigment number is 194. It's now up to that and IDK why lol. Would be hilarious if it because of cancellations :rofl:

Offtopic: Sorry guys, I can't respond to PMs. Troll status and all :roll:
I wonder if this is in the meantime till the orders get resent w/o the preorders?
I was wondering, too. He has sold a lot of kits too.

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About the toxicity of ingredients and all that I was talking about. I can't quote you guys, sorry.

Science hasn't found the link between aluminum and breast cancer, but some doctors argue that we should avoid. I wasn't even talking about cancer. All I'm saying is we shouldn't believe a company blindly even if something is common. they want profit, not wellness. and that's fine.
I don't want to go all Alex Jones, just saying that as a consumer we should keep in mind that we are talking about money. A LOT of money. if i see shady ingredients, i avoid. the companies don't care about it. they see fog and don't search for the fire. it's possible that it's nothing but it's possible that it may have a negative impact on us.
I'm just here for the giggles.

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A little late here, but the Youtuber's that are going on about toxic ingredients got confused regarding the Methyl Methacrylate Crosspolymer. The crosspolymer is safe to be used in cosmetics (as others here have said). I think people were getting it mixed up with MMA (Methyl Methacrylate) which was common in nail salons but caused a lot of adverse reactions because it's not supposed to come in contact with skin or nails in it's liquid state (which is why it's safe to use in dentistry for making things like crowns).

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