Have you ever actually seen what someone looks like when they're on meth? 9 stone at 5'7 is actually a healthy weight. Why does everyone on here have to body shame so damn much? Can't even look at Zoe's thread without feeling disgusted with humanity.Morethescarier wrote:Just watching joe sugg on true Geordie, he’s just admitted to being 9 stone, that’s disgusting! He’s a 26 year old man! Is he on drugs? He looks like he’s on meth
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I finally watched the podcast. it was a handful, that’s for sure. I made a lot of bulletpoints about stuff I found interesting and I feel like this is the easiest I can write down my thoughts and maybe this way you don’t have to listen to if you don’t have 3 hours for it, but maybe it will give this thread some topics to talk about:
- they talked about him being a normal 26 year old lad, and he’s afraid that it would be a „shock to the system” to his core audience if they’d see the real 26 year old man, so Joe’s sees vlogging as a job where you go in and leave after, which to me the whole thing came across that he can’t be genuine in his vlogs, even tho that’s what he wants us to believe
talked about he couldn’t live alone, he doesn’t like to be alone(well to me, that’s something that should change… if you can’t be alone with yourself then you need to change yourself)
he had meetings recently about how to grow his channel cuz he can’t do this forever(meaning that he wants to grow his channel probably)
he talked about how he was at the right time at the right place, he’s very lucky
talked about Pewdiepie who gives him hope that he can change his content down the road
doesn’t like to use other people faces(clicbaiting, shading etc) even tho his friends do it, he would „rather go out gracefully”(I like this)
talking about the Jasper golden area: „I’m not stupid, I know it’s not gonna last forever, I’m getting older and uglier, I have to think of the next thing, I think ahead 2 moves” and it’s disheartening to him seeing his numbers are not as good as they were
if he can he will continue doing youtube cuz „he can do all the other cool things because of it”
are Joe Weller and Ksi actually not friends anymore? it though it was for the drama and views, don’t know much about it.(he was drunk the box match, hence the cringe insta strories)
they asked him if his friends see him as a cash cow, he said he’s a good judge of people, Geordie said that he was surprised how sensible Joe is
he wants to make the parents laugh not just the kid
ask him about him being a role model and Geordie said that „Joe is frustrated that if anything happens they need to accept that he’s a 26 man”
his very private and people questioned his sexuality and they somehow ended up with Joe saying he’s sexually active(it was at 30 minutes, it’s quite cringe)
Gerodie talked a ton of bullshit about women’s voice tone, the „bitch tone”, it was quite scornful toward women, the other two weren’t impressed, Joe looked so confused lol
he confirmed that he’s 9 stone(=57 kg/126 pounds), was quite hesitant to answer it, talked about metabolism
asked him if he’s hooked up with a fan and he said he doesn’t know about it and he’s a bit paranoid about it, he’s very shy => „that’s why I drink”, latter mentions in the podcast that drunking makes him more comfortable and he doesn’t like to be at the center of the attention at parties
can remember if a gay dude ever hit on him cuz „I’m always really drunk”
he haven’t properly dated anyone since 17(so he’s been fucking around for 6 years… nice. can we all agree that he really has some serious commitment issues?)
I think we all knew he was lying about losing his virginity at 19, in Calfreezy’s video he said in Zante, 2012 and now he said it was right before he started Youtube(so before 2012 August) and even to Robbie he first said 20 and the corrected himself to 19. so he was almost 21(nothing wrong with that). surprisingly he had his first proper kiss at 18. (I’m a bit confused he said that the last time he was in Zante he was 18 lol what). virginity chats at 48 minutes
all his friends are getting married and have kids etc, he’s worried, he’s almost 30
he got a 1000 pounds for his first brand deal
basically admited that he only does Sugg Sundays to keep his viewers happy and doesn’t really want to do them anymore
they talked about Hello World and he was very defensive and diplomatic, he said that he doesn’t feel guilty and that it was better the second day and it was mainly the other 2 who took the words into his mouth and didn’t say anything groundbreaking (I lagreed with Geordie who said that they never collectively put out a statement apologizing and it made it look even worse)
they asked about his „cult fandon” and he admited that it’s a bit too much sometimes(obviously he hates it, I can't imagine dealing with cringey 12 year olds who write dirty fanfics about you).
he made fun of his pose-y Instagram
he said they don't talk about YT much with Zoe but talked to her this week about his Youtube game being a bit slow and that he’s starting to stuggle with new ideas but other than that "they don’t really talk about YT and scandals with her or his friends". what a bullshit….
he talked about Zoe’s calendar and book scandal, defended her and said that she is not a bad person and he said he likes Alfie
they talked about British vs. LA mentality and that British people doesn’t like to see you succeed(I thought it was just in my country haha)
I think the only groundbreaking topic he talked about was his anxiety. he talked about that he needs to see a terapist because of it and that he has quite serious anxiety around food, like he can’t eat on a date, he feel trapped and he feels like he needs to go to the toilet and be sick, he has to pinch his legs and that some point it got so bad and he got so anxious that he threw up in a club called The Box(I looked up, it’s a fetish club btw)(this is at 2h30m). this topic is from 2h23m, it was very new to me and it’s very interesting, never heard this from a guy, especially not from him.
he would go back to thatching if he had to, and he talked about the differences money wise
he feels like if he doesn’t leave the house for a day, he’s wasted a day
he talked about maybe getting with a girl he often thinks „I’d actually rather stay in and play fornite”(it must be shit for him that he can’t move over just the fucking phase and sounds like he’s bored of it, he should really get a serious girlfriend)
- he was only comfortable with the jokes after his 3rd beer, he didn’t seem to enjoy the vulgar jokes at all, not sure if it’s because he was on camera
Geordie and Joe was quite ignorant during the emails, it was dreadful to watch(especially Geordie) trying to give advice on women
after 3 hours of watching Joe, he comes across as a bit naive or maybe ignorant? I can’t tell. it seems liked he can’t see what was wrong with HW and his sister’s scandals, he tried so hard to be diplomatic that he actually didn’t really added much to the conversation, at the risky questions he did actually came across as media trained(especially not talking about Gleam's cut from his earnings). I like to see him be honest and raw about his opinions but this wasn't the case most of the times.
they talked over him a lot and didn't let him finish a couple of his stories that I would like to hear. they asked him about it and then started talking over him... it was annoying. I think the guy in the black tshirt was brilliant and Geordie had some great comments as well but Joe looked clueless and confused at some points. it just looked like he is not as invested in the conversation as the other two and obviously very nervous to not to say anything wrong
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You've clearly never seen someone who's on drugs. We all can see he's thin but the whole ED and drug discussion is stale. 126 pounds isn't that shocking for someone who's his height and has an ectomorphic body type.Morethescarier wrote:Just watching joe sugg on true Geordie, he’s just admitted to being 9 stone, that’s disgusting! He’s a 26 year old man! Is he on drugs? He looks like he’s on meth
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I agree! don't understand why poeple need to act so fucking childish towards his weight(and saw some nasty comment about his viginity also) when he's struggling with it enough, he even said it and that he has a anxiety with food. he's not the disgusting one here, the disgusting is how people like this person talk like a 12 year old brat and criticises something he can't change(same with Zoe but that thread is a shithole itself). also it's a bit of a reach to say he looks like he's on meth cuz of his weight, sure he looks worn out from all the partying but how old are we again to throw around stuff like this?BaconBaconBacon wrote:Have you ever actually seen what someone looks like when they're on meth? 9 stone at 5'7 is actually a healthy weight. Why does everyone on here have to body shame so damn much? Can't even look at Zoe's thread without feeling disgusted with humanity.Morethescarier wrote:Just watching joe sugg on true Geordie, he’s just admitted to being 9 stone, that’s disgusting! He’s a 26 year old man! Is he on drugs? He looks like he’s on meth
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I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks this! I'm all for criticizing his content, some people can totally shit on the stuff I love and that's absolutely fine but to be so ignorant and childish about his weight is so gross to me.Siculus wrote:I agree! don't understand why poeple need to act so fucking childish towards his weight(and saw some nasty comment about his viginity also) when he's struggling with it enough, he even said it and that he has a anxiety with food. he's not the disgusting one here, the disgusting is how people like this person talk like a 12 year old brat and criticises something he can't change(same with Zoe but that thread is a shithole itself). also it's a bit of a reach to say he looks like he's on meth cuz of his weight, sure he looks worn out from all the partying but how old are we again to throw around stuff like this?BaconBaconBacon wrote:Have you ever actually seen what someone looks like when they're on meth? 9 stone at 5'7 is actually a healthy weight. Why does everyone on here have to body shame so damn much? Can't even look at Zoe's thread without feeling disgusted with humanity.Morethescarier wrote:Just watching joe sugg on true Geordie, he’s just admitted to being 9 stone, that’s disgusting! He’s a 26 year old man! Is he on drugs? He looks like he’s on meth
I'd also like to point out that he seems to be going out less. Other than "big nights" where someone has a birthday or there's some big event he's gone to, from his instagram stories it seems a lot of times he's at home while his friends are out clubbing.
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Is it me, or does anyone else think it would be a really good idea for Joe to go back to Wiltshire and take up thatching again part-time? I just feel it would be so healthy for him. Like it's a ridiculous thought but I can't help but wonder what difference it would make to a lot of youtubers if they just took a year or two out from youtube and had a normal life for a while. Would they come back healthier, with fresh ideas? Cos honestly with the problems lots of them seem to have, the best remedy I can think of for their general wellbeing and creativity is to just...take a long ass break from youtube and get a strong dose of reality and healthy lifestyle again. I don't know where I'm going with this, just babbling..
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Joe should just move back to Wiltshire. He seems so much more relaxed and happy when he’s with his friends from home and his dad. He could easily buy a nice little house down there and still. vlog and do YouTube
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I agree but I think he may miss the London buzz though.miserlou wrote:Joe should just move back to Wiltshire. He seems so much more relaxed and happy when he’s with his friends from home and his dad. He could easily buy a nice little house down there and still. vlog and do YouTube
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I agree he needs to get out of London for a bit. All the drinking and partying isn't helping him, If your an anxious person and need a drink to feel comfortable around people London is not the place to be :/
I remember when I first saw his skin video and he mentioned the sun, I was thinking that's going to age you dramatically.
I really do feel for him, the number of people he must get around him purely for his fame :/ But the same time from what we can see it seems he only ever hangs out with the same people, going out clubbing where your gunna find these people.
I remember when I first saw his skin video and he mentioned the sun, I was thinking that's going to age you dramatically.
I really do feel for him, the number of people he must get around him purely for his fame :/ But the same time from what we can see it seems he only ever hangs out with the same people, going out clubbing where your gunna find these people.
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I mean lets not pretend Joe's weight is normal. He's too skinny for his frame. Zoe is skinny, but she doesn't look strange. He should try his hardest to get his eating anxieties sorted.
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BONTBFW wrote:I mean lets not pretend Joe's weight is normal. He's too skinny for his frame. Zoe is skinny, but she doesn't look strange. He should try his hardest to get his eating anxieties sorted.
But it is normal...look at a BMI chart, he's fine. He has a small frame too, so idk what makes you say that tbh.
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I don't really care about BMI, I'm just observing with my own eyes. His face is gaunt, head looks too big for his body, and his legs are boney sticks...that to me says his weight does not match his frame. He literally looks more and more rough and gaunt as the years go by, idk how people can say he looks fine. Besides that he's a grown man, if he was a teenager I'd leave it, but he's pushing 30.BaconBaconBacon wrote:BONTBFW wrote:I mean lets not pretend Joe's weight is normal. He's too skinny for his frame. Zoe is skinny, but she doesn't look strange. He should try his hardest to get his eating anxieties sorted.
But it is normal...look at a BMI chart, he's fine. He has a small frame too, so idk what makes you say that tbh.
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He’s not pushing 30! I’m the same age as Joe and this comment has triggered meBONTBFW wrote:I don't really care about BMI, I'm just observing with my own eyes. His face is gaunt, head looks too big for his body, and his legs are boney sticks...that to me says his weight does not match his frame. He literally looks more and more rough and gaunt as the years go by, idk how people can say he looks fine. Besides that he's a grown man, if he was a teenager I'd leave it, but he's pushing 30.BaconBaconBacon wrote:BONTBFW wrote:I mean lets not pretend Joe's weight is normal. He's too skinny for his frame. Zoe is skinny, but she doesn't look strange. He should try his hardest to get his eating anxieties sorted.
But it is normal...look at a BMI chart, he's fine. He has a small frame too, so idk what makes you say that tbh.
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^He's turning 27 this year, isn't that close to 30? Which is still fairly young in my book but I would say that as I'm ten years older than you and Joe, lol.
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He’s not unhealthy. Period. I’m in my early 20s and I weigh 88lbs. It’s normal because high metabolism is a thing. He’s not obese, he’s not anorexic, he’s healthy, get off his weight and Zoe’s too for that matter.
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we need to think about whether or not he would weight more if he’s be 100% healthy. for God’s sake, he tried to eat 4000 calories/day a couple of months ago and he couldn’t gain weight. he is obviously not healthy with all the partying and drinking and with his anxiety around food, but he do cooks for himself and he stated that he actually eats normally and he does exercise as well sometimes. so do we really think he would be „normal” sized if he ditched the partying and like for example pull a Niomi Smart and started eating super healthy? I’m sure we all know someone who can not gain weight doesn’t matter what. I mean he could go to a doctor and he should as he should be healthier and the doctor could make a special diet based on his personal stats(blood and vitamin needs and all that shit) but he will never be „normal” sized cuz he’s tiny, doesn’t matter what he does. he can break his back and still wouldn't look like Jack or Connor even tho they are the same height.
I think moving back to Whiltshire would be a very unlogical idea. sure, it would be great for his mental health but other that that for what? he’s still very successful, making a shit ton of money from youtube, paying his mortgage for his luxury penthouse, living his fuckboy life in busy London with his friends(and he makes most of his videos with them cuz they are youtubers obviously, the ones back home are not, they have 9-5 jobs, what would Joe do alone all day?). and I’m sure even if youtube comes to an end he still have a B, C and probably D plan before going back to thatching. he said he wants to live eventually back home but he’s still single etc, I think he would last 2 weeks before he runs back to London cuz he’s bored. and he said before that youtube got to that point in 2014 when he was in London more than home so that’s why he moved there. it would be the death of his channel, he's already struggling. but maybe visiting more? that would be great.
his video today was the worst so far. zero effort, zero creativity. wouldn't even be interesting if it was an 8 minute part of his vlog.
I think moving back to Whiltshire would be a very unlogical idea. sure, it would be great for his mental health but other that that for what? he’s still very successful, making a shit ton of money from youtube, paying his mortgage for his luxury penthouse, living his fuckboy life in busy London with his friends(and he makes most of his videos with them cuz they are youtubers obviously, the ones back home are not, they have 9-5 jobs, what would Joe do alone all day?). and I’m sure even if youtube comes to an end he still have a B, C and probably D plan before going back to thatching. he said he wants to live eventually back home but he’s still single etc, I think he would last 2 weeks before he runs back to London cuz he’s bored. and he said before that youtube got to that point in 2014 when he was in London more than home so that’s why he moved there. it would be the death of his channel, he's already struggling. but maybe visiting more? that would be great.
his video today was the worst so far. zero effort, zero creativity. wouldn't even be interesting if it was an 8 minute part of his vlog.
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yeah I just watched the video. I don't remember ever seeing a main channel video of his with THAT little effort in it...Siculus wrote:we need to think about whether or not he would weight more if he’s be 100% healthy. for God’s sake, he tried to eat 4000 calories/day a couple of months ago and he couldn’t gain weight. he is obviously not healthy with all the partying and drinking and with his anxiety around food, but he do cooks for himself and he stated that he actually eats normally and he does exercise as well sometimes. so do we really think he would be „normal” sized if he ditched the partying and like for example pull a Niomi Smart and started eating super healthy? I’m sure we all know someone who can not gain weight doesn’t matter what. I mean he could go to a doctor and he should as he should be healthier and the doctor could make a special diet based on his personal stats(blood and vitamin needs and all that shit) but he will never be „normal” sized cuz he’s tiny, doesn’t matter what he does. he can break his back and still wouldn't look like Jack or Connor even tho they are the same height.
I think moving back to Whiltshire would be a very unlogical idea. sure, it would be great for his mental health but other that that for what? he’s still very successful, making a shit ton of money from youtube, paying his mortgage for his luxury penthouse, living his fuckboy life in busy London with his friends(and he makes most of his videos with them cuz they are youtubers obviously, the ones back home are not, they have 9-5 jobs, what would Joe do alone all day?). and I’m sure even if youtube comes to an end he still have a B, C and probably D plan before going back to thatching. he said he wants to live eventually back home but he’s still single etc, I think he would last 2 weeks before he runs back to London cuz he’s bored. and he said before that youtube got to that point in 2014 when he was in London more than home so that’s why he moved there. it would be the death of his channel, he's already struggling. but maybe visiting more? that would be great.
his video today was the worst so far. zero effort, zero creativity. wouldn't even be interesting if it was an 8 minute part of his vlog.
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I tend to give Joe the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his videos but jesus this week's was awful. Besides the fact that I don't like Mikey or Jack it just wasn't good at all.
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When I say "normal" I don't mean the obvious societal normal. I know he will never look like the average guy, but I just don't think he looks normal for his particular frame.Siculus wrote:we need to think about whether or not he would weight more if he’s be 100% healthy. for God’s sake, he tried to eat 4000 calories/day a couple of months ago and he couldn’t gain weight. he is obviously not healthy with all the partying and drinking and with his anxiety around food, but he do cooks for himself and he stated that he actually eats normally and he does exercise as well sometimes. so do we really think he would be „normal” sized if he ditched the partying and like for example pull a Niomi Smart and started eating super healthy? I’m sure we all know someone who can not gain weight doesn’t matter what. I mean he could go to a doctor and he should as he should be healthier and the doctor could make a special diet based on his personal stats(blood and vitamin needs and all that shit) but he will never be „normal” sized cuz he’s tiny, doesn’t matter what he does. he can break his back and still wouldn't look like Jack or Connor even tho they are the same height.
I think moving back to Whiltshire would be a very unlogical idea. sure, it would be great for his mental health but other that that for what? he’s still very successful, making a shit ton of money from youtube, paying his mortgage for his luxury penthouse, living his fuckboy life in busy London with his friends(and he makes most of his videos with them cuz they are youtubers obviously, the ones back home are not, they have 9-5 jobs, what would Joe do alone all day?). and I’m sure even if youtube comes to an end he still have a B, C and probably D plan before going back to thatching. he said he wants to live eventually back home but he’s still single etc, I think he would last 2 weeks before he runs back to London cuz he’s bored. and he said before that youtube got to that point in 2014 when he was in London more than home so that’s why he moved there. it would be the death of his channel, he's already struggling. but maybe visiting more? that would be great.
his video today was the worst so far. zero effort, zero creativity. wouldn't even be interesting if it was an 8 minute part of his vlog.
As for his video today...I got through about 2 minutes of it. He should've just not bothered uploading. 2015, hell even 2016 Joe would've never put that shit up. I just don't understand how his idea of of going through a rut is pumping out garbage after garbage. What he needs to do is disappear for a month or two, travel, and clear his head. When I say travel, I mean proper traveling not those lad laze arounds. Partying, playing video games, and partying is the same thing over and over again. Why does he keep doing the same thing expecting different results?
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It's been 17 hours and not even 5% of his subscribers have watched the video (despite posting about it on social media & everyone knowing about sugg sunday).
He keeps on talking about wanting to change his content, trying to appeal to an older audience etc. and yet he keeps on putting out videos, which literally noone above the age of 12 would find entertaining. Just stop talking about aging up your content or actually take a break and come back with new ideas, man. He can't be proud of his latest videos, they are nothing more than uninspired and lazy money grabs.
He keeps on talking about wanting to change his content, trying to appeal to an older audience etc. and yet he keeps on putting out videos, which literally noone above the age of 12 would find entertaining. Just stop talking about aging up your content or actually take a break and come back with new ideas, man. He can't be proud of his latest videos, they are nothing more than uninspired and lazy money grabs.