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People over on the J* thread believe her flat ass!!! How do we see Tanya's live subscriber count? I want to see those numbers go down....way down.
we can no longer see the actual countdown in real time on social blade (YT changed it after last year's drama) but you can see the summary of the numbers day by day here: https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/glamlifeguru
She's lost 70,000 subscribers so far since she dropped her video yesterday.
I might totally be repeating things that have already been said so apologies in advance!
I honestly think that this video makes Tati look WORSE than she did before. She's only released this video now because of the level of hate against Shane and Jeffree, it's the perfect time to strike and she knows that some people will believe her because they think Shane/Jeffree are far worse so they will automatically take her side. If she truly cared about James in any of this, she would have made this video a few weeks after Bye Sister, basically as soon as she realised that she had been 'used'.
It also bothered me how she talked SO much about how close she was to James, how he did her make up for her wedding, how she looked upon him as family more than a friend. She then explained that she barely saw Jeffree and spoke to him mostly via texts or video calls and how she didn't know Shane all that well. That being the case, why the hell would you take the word of two people you barely know over your own 'family' member? Why would you not sit that person down and confront them face to face before filming a video which you knew damn well could destroy him?
Then to top it all off, she talks about how she texted Shane saying she was concerned about releasing the video due to James being in Australia and on a high floor of a hotel and he was like 'Oh he'a a narcissist, he will never kill himself!'. It sounds to me as if Tati was already putting an excuse in place so she could blame Shane if anything had happened to James. You know she would have come out and said 'But Shane FORCED me into releasing the video and he told me James would be okay!'.
It's also telling that she talked about the fact that Jeffree had dirt on everyone and had 'forced' people into saying things they would never normally say and how we should forgive them. That to me says that Jeffree has dirt on her for sure, possibly relating to something she may have said about Jackie Aina since I found it strange how she brought her up in this and then said that she'd always enjoyed her company when they had met. Don't be shocked if it comes out she said something racially charged about her but again, she will say that she was 'forced' into doing so.
Lastly, it's funny that towards the end she brings up damn vitamins again and talks about how Morphe are bringing out their own hair gummies and how she suspects that they also played a role in trying to bring James, and possibly herself, down. Firstly, James is one of Morphe's top earners, even if Jeffree has some sort of control at Morphe is he really going to kick out someone who earns them and in turn him a lot of money? No, I don't think so because Jeffree LOVES money and even if he did want James to be sacked from Morphe, my guess is other investors would have overruled him anyway.
As for Tati and Morphe, I get the feeling she is pissed at them because she perhaps pitched them about selling her vitamins and beauty stuff but they weren't interested so she now holds a grudge against them.
This idiot got it all wrong. It has nothing to do with her age or her being a woman. I dislike Shallon a lot, this made me hate her. People like her and Tati always find a reason why it is never their fault.
I can't believe that I am saying this, but except for my fave dr. Grande, Trisha had the best reply to this. She said it best with "you gossiped with them a little bit, and made video and now are the victim". It is literally that. And of course, because of the hair vitamins.
agreed with what has been said here. Remember when she made the J* video absolving him of his past actions because he'd never done anything personally to her. saying that we all need to give people more than one chance.
she flip flops more than a wacky waving inflatable tube guy. she only does what she can to better herself, look at her, she's not a friendly person. she fucked over a kid, because she thought he was cutting into her bottom line. she doesn't have the market cornered in fake vitamins and she never will... remember when she had to beg for the jaclyn hill palette? she totally pitched shit to morphe and they didn't want her. she's just angry because she's a never was and a never will be.
“I don't care what you are doing, so much as the idiotic way that you are doing it.”-vincent valentine
She got dragged by the majority of posters on the 2 articles Buzzfeed put out too. It was hilarious. Between the "who is this old lady and why is she making drama?" posts to the ones calling BS on her points, it was refreshing! Just because one doesn't believe or sympathize with twati, does not absolve Shane and JStar.
Releasing this video now it's not a coincidence! The way she emphasised to forgive people and not cancel them tells me she is talking mainly about herself here. J* has something on her and that is what she is worried and upset about! Bringing up the 'fertility' treatment was so manipulative!
Is her 40 minutes 'Oh Woe is Me' even worth a watch? i clicked on and instantly saw her tearing up and thought CRINGE AF and oh so fake, so I clicked off.
Is her 40 minutes 'Oh Woe is Me' even worth a watch? i clicked on and instantly saw her tearing up and thought CRINGE AF and oh so fake, so I clicked off.
I always watch everything on 2x, you should try it
There's these two fuckers in the Discord who keep defending Twati, saying she has "apologized". The video wasn't an apology as much as it was her shedding her crocodile tears and shifting the blame. Not saying that she couldn't be manipulated but it was her decision to upload the video, to do a follow up, and to promote J* products afterwards. She wanted the clout and now regrets the relationships because it blew up in her face.
There's these two fuckers in the Discord who keep defending Twati, saying she has "apologized". The video wasn't an apology as much as it was her shedding her crocodile tears and shifting the blame. Not saying that she couldn't be manipulated but it was her decision to upload the video, to do a follow up, and to promote J* products afterwards. She wanted the clout and now regrets the relationships because it blew up in her face.
Oh my god I know the Tati discord thread is a fucking mess. So many of them don't know shit about her other than what they heard after last year's drama and now. It's so hard for me not to argue with them but the GG discord is so lawless right now that it's not even worth it. So much infighting and unnecessary rudeness. I missed it here with you guys so I'm glad the site is running better for me.
There's these two fuckers in the Discord who keep defending Twati, saying she has "apologized". The video wasn't an apology as much as it was her shedding her crocodile tears and shifting the blame. Not saying that she couldn't be manipulated but it was her decision to upload the video, to do a follow up, and to promote J* products afterwards. She wanted the clout and now regrets the relationships because it blew up in her face.
Oh my god I know the Tati discord thread is a fucking mess. So many of them don't know shit about her other than what they heard after last year's drama and now. It's so hard for me not to argue with them but the GG discord is so lawless right now that it's not even worth it. So much infighting and unnecessary rudeness. I missed it here with you guys so I'm glad the site is running better for me.
Right? They keep trying to defend her when her video was full of contradictions. "But she did apologize" was written like 20x and I'm just here like how stupid can you be? The users on discord know nothing about her lying ass history and are pretending like Tati's this weak women who got wrecked mentally & physically when JC was the biggest victim.
There's these two fuckers in the Discord who keep defending Twati, saying she has "apologized". The video wasn't an apology as much as it was her shedding her crocodile tears and shifting the blame. Not saying that she couldn't be manipulated but it was her decision to upload the video, to do a follow up, and to promote J* products afterwards. She wanted the clout and now regrets the relationships because it blew up in her face.
Oh my god I know the Tati discord thread is a fucking mess. So many of them don't know shit about her other than what they heard after last year's drama and now. It's so hard for me not to argue with them but the GG discord is so lawless right now that it's not even worth it. So much infighting and unnecessary rudeness. I missed it here with you guys so I'm glad the site is running better for me.
Right? They keep trying to defend her when her video was full of contradictions. "But she did apologize" was written like 20x and I'm just here like how stupid can you be? The users on discord know nothing about her lying ass history and are pretending like Tati's this weak women who got wrecked mentally & physically when JC was the biggest victim.
Agreed. You can tell most of them were never on GG within the last few years, or were part of threads not associated with the beautubers and their shit. "Her apology is for James to accept and it seems like he did so..." that doesn't make what she did right? She literally tried to ruin his career because he shouted out SBH as if he owed her shit? Since when does him being a bad friend at worst warrant her implying he's a predator or committed sexual assault? These influnencers have put so much importance on their bank accounts that any tiny little threat to it must be destroyed in the most malicious way possible. I'm all for petty drama and people not liking each other but we're getting into dangerous territory now. Jeffree being allowed to behave the way he has for so long has opened the door for so much bullshit in the industry and it needs to be slammed shut in his ugly fucking face.
I'm all for forgiveness but JC would be an idiot to let Twati back into his life. If she did apologize, and he accepted then that should be it. I don't watch JC because I am not into the way he does his makeup and the fast-talking makes me agitated. I was on my google news feed and there was a side by side picture of her from the first video on JC and the one she posted recently and holy shite, she looks like a different person. That piggy nose is looking even more piggy.
I went on the discord. For like two minutes before I got a strong whiff of Twati ass fumes and left. Can't be done with it in there. It attracts the same *shallow*dream*pool* types as Twatter - I mean after all it is basically just a glorified chat server. Chat isn't a forum ateotd. Here (and reddit) gives people the chance to type a long form post that takes a bit more thought, quite frankly.
So I'm perfectly happy here in this glorious troll cave thankyouvery. I just wish someone would give it a spring clean and make it less dank and leaden, hint hint Morgan hint hint.
Seems like tattle or whatever it is is full of the same Twatarse sniffers too so what can a woman do huh.
In my future dystopia your history of stanning one of these creatures will be put on your permanent record, so potential employers can judge accordingly on basis of intelligence.
So I came across Kam Lester's livestream which was made weeks before Tati's video. He said he does not support Jeffree Star anymore and confirmed that Jeffree & Shane were talking crap about James 3 months before dramaggedon. He said Jeffree asked whay Kam thought about James. Kam said James always been supportive of him and he never had bad vibes but saw red flags with Jeffree. Also remember when Shane said James didn't want the drama in the trailer but Shane convinced him that it's fine? Maybe thats what he did with Tati.
None of this makes any sense IMO. It's hard to believe Tati and JC were ever that close. If they were, JC would at least have given Tati a heads up before he promoted SBH or she would have simply called him after he did that and complained to him privately instead of making the "Bye Sister" video. I just don't think people who are genuinely close and really care about each other would do these hurtful things to each other in public. It all comes off like some kind of attempt to get attention and publicity without regard for the supposed close friend's feelings.
Supposedly Tati was worried that JC's supposed victims were about to come forward and she was "worried" about him so she made that video? That makes no sense. How would that video do anything to help him?
I have no doubt that SD and J* were doing whatever they could to foment drama and manipulate people, but I'm not sure why they supposedly felt that JC needed to be "taken down" so that their own palette collab could do well. Like somehow J* believed that if JC was cancelled then all his fans would rush and buy his own palette instead? That doesn't really make any sense to me, either.
I also seem to remember that when Tati and J* first started being friends, many of her fans spoke out against it and Tati said something to the effect that nobody knew J* like she did and he was a ray of light and eventually everyone else would know that also. So apparently THAT wasn't true! She really hardly ever saw him or communicated with him, didn't know him well, and eventually was manipulated by him, yet she had the gall to tell her concerned viewers that he was practically an angel.
I truly can't get over how far BGC has their noses shoved between Tati's flatcakes lmao, every megathread is filled with comments acting like she's some delicate waif who was manipulated at gunpoint by J* and Shane. She chose to put on her makeup, set up her lighting, camera, and microphone, and then record, edit, and upload the fake exposé video, and let it sit on her channel for however many days while millions of people hurled abuse at someone who was supposedly her friend. And now she spends 40 minutes skating around any actual accountability and suddenly WE are the bad guys for being suspicious of her?
The misogyny accusations are really getting on my nerves too, because Tati is a grown ass woman with millions in the bank. I understand that money can't protect you from sexism, but Tati's not some 20-something-year-old freelancer who got caught in a fucked up contract, she's an adult who chose to associate with these people. If she really is that easily manipulated by an overgrown scene kid and an unwashed porn addict, maybe she's just straight up dumb.
Back when the whole Tati vs JC thing happened I remember she replied to a twitter comment and said that she had a sexual assault in her past and she outright said that James Charles' behaviors were predatory. I remember because it was the first time I had heard of her assault and it surprised me that she would reveal that in a twitter thread. I think I may have even uploaded a screen shot here but I can't for the life of me remember where it is. Does anyone else remember this? She may not have used the P word in her Bye Sister video but she DID call him a predator on twitter. She is the Qween of backtracking but Tati, people remember and there is proof out there. Why can't you just take some responsibility and grow as a person? If she had just said I fucked up, I let myself be manipulated but at the end of the day I was also jealous and I was hurt that he promoted another brand, maybe people would be able to respect her a little bit more.
I would also hope that should this go to court that Jeffree Star subpoena's her Tati's lawyers letters that were sent to Katie from Without a Crystal Ball because they claim that Tati's video was based on her first hand experiences with James Charles, not that it was based on what she was told by 2 men who she herself says she spend barely any time with. And as a side note I truly think that JC has only "forgiven" her because he needs her to publicly take back what she said about him, now that she has done that we are yet to heat anything from him. How hilarious would it be if he told the world "I told you she was full of shit" and never mentioned her name again. But I'm sure eventually we will see a photo of the two of them hugging, with a butterfly overhead and and some 90s rock remake playing in the background...barf!!
