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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by WORDSALAD » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:25 am

^^^ I wash my face in the shower every day and my skin is honestly better than Caroline's. And I use cheap skincare to boot! Hear that Caroline - CHEAP SKINCARE!!!

I don't know where this woman gets most of the 'advice' she gives but most of it smells strongly of whatever she plucked out of her arse that day.

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Post by SammieG » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:52 pm

..plucked out of her ass, and whoever is paying her: #presssamples #ad

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by AmyRita » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:51 pm

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^^^ I wash my face in the shower every day and my skin is honestly better than Caroline's. And I use cheap skincare to boot! Hear that Caroline - CHEAP SKINCARE!!!

I don't know where this woman gets most of the 'advice' she gives but most of it smells strongly of whatever she plucked out of her arse that day.
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It’s probably better than tugging vigorously with a washcloth and going in 2x a day with glycolic acid and no sunscreen. Now that I think about it, she may change her mind if she can do a sponsored post with the local water company.

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Post by Guest » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:06 pm

AmyRita wrote:
lightrain2 wrote:
GuruG wrote:
lightrain2 wrote:
gemh94 wrote:

I had a similar experience myself, following her rule of "having at least 3 cleansers in rotation", double cleansing with a hot wet wash cloth (hello eczema and even angrier spots!), acid toning like there is no tomorrow and hardly ever mentioning the word Sunscreen. I was too young, desperate and naive to question her "recommendations" which are nothing more than just trying to sell you whatever brand is paying her ATM. After years I eventually cleared up my acne and angry reactive skin, with a basic La Roche Posay cleanser, an Avene moisturiser, prescription Tretinoin and Azelaic Acid, and daily SPF.

I really feel sorry for all the people that fall for her this glorified sales woman's tactics, but as soon as you question her advice you get either bullied by Caroline herself or her deluded minions.
Lol, I still don't get what the "hot cloth/flannel" buzz is. Here it's called a towel or face towel but that's the least issue. Surely the method of cleansing is wet face, apply cleanser, wet fingers/palms and rinse face clean... then use a dry towel to pat dry the skin. What does the "hot" actually mean? Warming up on a radiator, drenching in hot water? I know Liz Earle has a hot cloth method with scratchy muslins too. Yes too lazy to google, but wiping away product with a towel rather than just drying a clean face with it, seems a bit much.
I'm not sure what Caroline means by "hot cloth" method, but I personally tried a hot cloth and oil method and it has worked wonders for me. I have pretty sensitive skin prone to breakouts, so tried many different cleansers, most recent being the cerave gentle cleanser, and it was just alright, I still had problems. Anyway, so the method is like this: apply the oil of choice (I use the Ordinary Hemi-squalane, it's very light and gentl), massage very gently over your entire face (don't over massage, this is important!), take a clean soft cloth, soak in tap water as hot as you can tolerate, and gently wipe the face with it a couple of times. Pat dry. That's it. Honestly, works amazing! Especially great for removing makeup or heavy sunscreen.

Now what I found incredibly damaging for my skin out of her arsenal of skincare advices is the pimple-popping cheat-sheet.. ended up with a full on chemical burn, it took weeks to repair!! She is such a charlatan!!
Thanks, I agree sometimes a simple routine works best. And at the end of the day, everybody is different so a one size fits all recommendation, especially when she starts bringing up supplements & food, isn't the best. Other skincare gurus usually stress that their routines work for them, their bodies, their budgets and climates etc rather than think you can give strict routines to strangers. I do feel she underestimates just how sensitive and prone to reaction people are with chemical exfoliants, even those in low doses can end up causing painful breakouts and dry skin.
Wait... people are taking diet/supplement advise from Caroline now? Skincare advise was bad enough. I remember reading on her website that she’s “trained in brands”. Also, she doesn’t like it when people wash their faces in the shower. Is this a UK vs US shower head thing? I don’t see why she would have a problem with this if people turned down the temperature/didn’t take very hot showers.
The cheat sheets often have food/tablet recommendations. I don't think the shower face cleansing is cultural, more Caroline's own opinion. Don't see what's particularly wrong with cleansing in the shower, it's not as if people are running scolding hot water, presumably you could do the infamous double cleansing too.

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by Evil_robot » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:43 am

I personally get really bad acne from glycolic acid, although every youtube guru out there is obsessed with it and puts it into every damn video recommendation.
so I use lactid acid and it's the best, but I use it only once a week, because I have combination sensitive skin. if I use acid every day, even simply in a toner, my skin will be dry and will fall off in patches, no joke.

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by agirlwillbequeen » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:09 am

It's the eyelashes I can't stand, I don't understand why she has them when she oil/balm cleanses. They ruin them and it shows because they're so gappy and uneven plus so ageing because they overtake her eyes. I don't know why she insists on her hair being so bleach blonde it's clearly f*ked and embracing it whilst calling yourself Rod Stewart is just annoying.
As for her recommendations, if they don't work for you it's because no-ones skin is the same so it's really hard to help the masses. If you go to a dermatologist they will do some trial and error before you find the right combination.

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Post by cleopop » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:02 am

Found this thread today after I was shocked by her reply to a comment on Instagram.

I suggested that a new product costing £15, replacing an old version priced at £2.50, was profit driven. She called me 'rude' and presumptious'! The new product is also less functional.

It may not mean anything to her as she clearly doesn't pay for this brand's products, but since when were consumers not allowed to point out things like this? How can you be 'rude' to a brand??

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by Triple_Axel » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:50 am

cleopop wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:02 am
Found this thread today after I was shocked by her reply to a comment on Instagram.

I suggested that a new product costing £15, replacing an old version priced at £2.50, was profit driven. She called me 'rude' and presumptious'! The new product is also less functional.

It may not mean anything to her as she clearly doesn't pay for this brand's products, but since when were consumers not allowed to point out things like this? How can you be 'rude' to a brand??
That was so uncalled for and unprofessional on her end. Just because you, a consumer who pays full price for a product, do not agree with her, who’s paid or at least given free products from the brand...you must be wrong and deserve to be called out. Maybe the product really was replaced based on feedback, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to like it or shut up about it :roll: I understand that there are plenty of sheep who rush out to buy whatever she advertises, but I can’t believe brands take this woman seriously. There’s a fine line between being frank and plain nasty.

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Post by cleopop » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:47 am

I hadn’t even pointed out that her statement to someone else about the product size was incorrect as it’s now massively diluted...god knows what she’d have called me if I had!

Still it’s led me to question why I follow bulldog influencers like her and twentysomething beauty journalists who must earn peanuts but are permanently on vacation and can somehow afford to buy property in Chelsea through their own hard work. Yeah right.

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Post by SammieG » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:15 pm

Not surprised she called you names. She's been presumptuous and rude for years. If the thread name fits... The Obnoxious Oversized Child Hirons lol.

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by Mrs Smith » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:40 pm

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^^ If she's had Botox then any skincare advice from her now means NOTHING. (Not like it did before but)
Honestly why do ppl still listen to this woman?!?
I guess she had a change of heart. She was always clear about her disdain for botox saying things like "why would you put that in your face" etc etc. She positions herself as such an authority on EVERYTHING - not just skincare. Always so self-righteous and correct.

I could go on for hours the number of times shes proven herself to be a total hypocrite. but for now id just like to get up on my own soap box about two things. First of all she PERSECUTES any form of wipes. She hates them. Horror - they are so damaging!! And anyone who uses them has to be a complete moron. (its mostly the Americans who are THAT stupid ). What is wrong with a wipe when used for removing makeup and then followed with another cleanse! She uses pads for crissake! What is the difference???????????????? Her exfoliating AHA pads are no less scratchy and abrasive than my Costco face wipes.

The second thing is Clarisonic. They do not damage your skin when used properly. And they are not a breeding ground for bacteria that you then spread all over your face. When you finish using it, rinse it and let it dry. Dont let it fester in a pool of water - i agree that is gross but thats not the Clarisonics fault - thats the dumbass who doesnt know how to use it. Why does a Clarisonic brush have more bacteria than makeup brushes? All it has on it is C L E A N S E R. Its getting cleansed every time you use it. I bet she doesnt wash her makeup brushes every time. Im willing to put money on that.

Dont be hating on my wipes and clarisonic just beause there are stupid people out there who dont know how to use them. Hate the player not the game. That is all.

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Post by gemh94 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:45 am

I am sorry but this is a joke. How the f. can they have her hosting a section about perfect skin when she looks like that. I will never get over the IRONY of having her preaching about good skin or grooming in general.
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Post by WORDSALAD » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:05 am

^^^ Honestly it's akin to a morbidly obese person giving dietary advice.

But hey, the world is filled with this shit. Gotta love those doctors and nurses stood outside the hospital smoking like chimneys.

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Post by CinnamonBun » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:10 am

Her skin is dragging down with her lies and hypocrisy
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Post by Catyogurttasteflavor » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:12 am

That blonde hair is atrocious. I would peg her as 60 years old. I recall one video of hers where she was trying to show a face massage. She was kneeding her face like bread dough; I couldn't watch for more than 10 seconds (in horror).

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Post by pksanne » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:46 am

Guys, it is so frustrating to read that there many other people like myself who followed her advise and their skin got way worse. About 5 or 6 years ago when all the gleam people like pixiwoo were constantly plugging her, I was an 18 year old with a few spots. Following her seriously horrible advice (Clinique take the day off balm, Clarins acid toner, NO SUNSCREEN ffs) honestly ruined my skin which erupted in full-blown acne. All the overpriced, fragranced, alcohol-laden product she shills are so bad for the skin. She continues to spread misinformation. Back then she used to say it was ok to get your SPF from your foundation (obv never heard of UVA, or how much sunscreen you need to apply) and I remember recently she thought an article about how SPF does more bad than good was interesting???? She is such a joke. Also, how can she look like that even after so many expensive products, procedures, and filler? And how can she endorse getting a tan in 2019

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Post by dreamhaus » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:34 am

Look at her skin and her LinkedIn, it says all you need to know about Ms Horin's capabilities. She's a shill and obnoxious know nothing know-it-all.

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Post by gemh94 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:08 am

Japp. She is no expert whatsoever, she is only a glorified SALESWOMAN.

If you want to laugh and see how other EXPERTS cringe at her crap advice then watch this live chat. Notice how Dr Sam bunting and Theresa Tarmey are absolutely horrified by CH advice. You can watch the whole thing if you've got time sinsce it is quite amusing, otherwise skip to 37:00.


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Post by Evil_robot » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:10 am

I love Dr Sam and I trust her a lot, I'm glad she doesn't like Caroline lol.
but it's bad that Pixiwoos like her so much though, maybe she paid them?

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Post by gemh94 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:43 am

Evil_robot wrote:
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I love Dr Sam and I trust her a lot, I'm glad she doesn't like Caroline lol.
but it's bad that Pixiwoos like her so much though, maybe she paid them?
I think they are represented by the same agency of something like that. Thats why Ruth Crilly, Pixiwoo and CH are all love and friends (they probably try to potentiate or promote eachother). Luckily, Sam Bunting is a professional and doesn't have to do that.

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by bevflannery » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:09 am

gemh94 wrote:
Evil_robot wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:10 am
I love Dr Sam and I trust her a lot, I'm glad she doesn't like Caroline lol.
but it's bad that Pixiwoos like her so much though, maybe she paid them?
I think they are represented by the same agency of something like that. Thats why Ruth Crilly, Pixiwoo and CH are all love and friends (they probably try to potentiate or promote eachother). Luckily, Sam Bunting is a professional and doesn't have to do that.
Yep, I think they’re all at Gleam. Lily Pebbles & Anna too. They all LOVE each other!


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Post by pksanne » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:30 am

Ok, Caroline has a new blog post on SPF that seems actually reasonable. I am glad she posted it but it shows once again she doesn't acknowledge that she was shilling wrong advice for so long. Also, do any of you guys follow Carolines BFF Nadine Baggot? She is slightly more tolerable and looks better for her age but I have noticed she has also turned into an absolute sellout. She has the same know it all attitude as Caroline and sometimes refers to herself as a scientist(wtf) but is promoting any brand that pays her even if it completely contracts previous advice. Also whenever she has guests on her channel she constantly interrupts them and tries to still force her opinion on them. I feel she deserves her own thread

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Post by bevflannery » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:09 am

pksanne wrote:Ok, Caroline has a new blog post on SPF that seems actually reasonable. I am glad she posted it but it shows once again she doesn't acknowledge that she was shilling wrong advice for so long. Also, do any of you guys follow Carolines BFF Nadine Baggot? She is slightly more tolerable and looks better for her age but I have noticed she has also turned into an absolute sellout. She has the same know it all attitude as Caroline and sometimes refers to herself as a scientist(wtf) but is promoting any brand that pays her even if it completely contracts previous advice. Also whenever she has guests on her channel she constantly interrupts them and tries to still force her opinion on them. I feel she deserves her own thread
Yes I follow her. She’s so annoying when she interrupts her guests! She seems totally oblivious.

I think she did a science degree but that doesn’t make you a scientist anymore than a law degree makes you a lawyer! Image

She’s knowledgeable though and I do quite like her. She’s been more up front about what she’s had done too! Although Caroline is having to be now also!


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Post by Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:14 am

I agree that Nadine is a frustrating interviewer and she comes off a bit snarky with her pal Jo, but I guess that is just their "banter". Worst mean girl and know it all is Sali Hughes though, who is in no way humble and can't just let her guest shine, instead SHE had to have used every product for yonks etc. She also has a controversy of getting the previous Guardian beauty editor (and the first big UK beauty youtuber) sacked because she thought she could do better. She can't as every article is just an ego boost and irrelvant headshot, followed by very subjective sentances on undisclosed PR.

All in all I've grown tired of a lot of skincare gurus, they shill and talk as if they have more knowledge than the average consumer, and are quite stubborn. The dismissal of animal and environmental rights is awful in this day and age. I know they like to say they recycle, but honestly most of these plastics and other packaging is not universally accepted by recycling plants, and the idea that plastic recycling somehow is the ultimate soloution is terribly misguided.

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Re: Caroline TheObnoxiousOversizedChild Hirons PT2

Post by annapolly » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:34 pm

rainwouldbenice wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:14 am
I agree that Nadine is a frustrating interviewer and she comes off a bit snarky with her pal Jo, but I guess that is just their "banter". Worst mean girl and know it all is Sali Hughes though, who is in no way humble and can't just let her guest shine, instead SHE had to have used every product for yonks etc. She also has a controversy of getting the previous Guardian beauty editor (and the first big UK beauty youtuber) sacked because she thought she could do better. She can't as every article is just an ego boost and irrelvant headshot, followed by very subjective sentances on undisclosed PR.

All in all I've grown tired of a lot of skincare gurus, they shill and talk as if they have more knowledge than the average consumer, and are quite stubborn. The dismissal of animal and environmental rights is awful in this day and age. I know they like to say they recycle, but honestly most of these plastics and other packaging is not universally accepted by recycling plants, and the idea that plastic recycling somehow is the ultimate soloution is terribly misguided.
Wait who did Sali Hughes get sacked?!
As for Caroline - recent drama with Drunk Elephant. I couldn’t care less about either of them but I’ve found it hilarious because I’m in the Nadine Baggot Facebook group as so many middle aged women are calling CH a Queen and saying she responded so well to a R&D guy from DE being negative about Saint Caroline.
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