I'm sure Luke treated Whitney like shit. That part is obvious. There is enough evidence out there that Luke is controlling and manipulative, especially preying on young targets.
That being said, I don't think Whitney is entirely innocent either. Maybe that's just me, but not everything is black and white. And we'll never really know for sure. That being said, Whitney could have walked away. She just chose not to. If I remember correctly, she was confused as to why she woke up in Luke's bed one night, didn't feel comfortable with it, but continued to see him anyway? It just seems... off?
Also, I took a quick look at Whitney's page source on tumblr. It doesn't seem like she actually has a tracker or whatever on her blog. I've had one and looked it up before and it usually shows up in the coding (something with stat or counter). But hers might be different.
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None. At least from what I've seen. Most only have the ability to figure out a person's location. The most extensive one I've seen was one that figured out a person's IP/location, type of computer and browser, and referring link if there is one. But it never showed anyone's name.pinkbows wrote:I feel really uncomfortable, because she somehow found out my name (and published it), and is now tumblr stalking me and my posts. What sort of tracker would give out your full name? Is that even legal?
If she found it out, it's probably from her own digging.
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I guess sending anon hate didn't really help you that much did it....
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I think she deleted the post where she mentioned your name? Because the only post she has about you, is the one that was posted on here.pinkbows wrote:Who hasn't sent anon hate ever? Especially on this site where we have people sending cleaning products disguised as make-up to people.
I don't really care about Whitney, she always gave me that stuck up vibe. Plus like Kleinz said, she slept with Luke knowing he was in a relationship with Kristina. I have zero tolerance for cheaters, so in a way, what happened to her is karma. But regardless of that Luke is a terrible person. From all this Luke drama it did make me somewhat admire Ingrid since she took no part in it. I find that even stronger for a person to keep quiet about a damaging situation, rather than constantly dwell on it. It just shows Luke that he really hurt Whitney and Kristina, and with creeps like him, he probably gets an ego boost knowing that. I am sure by Ingrid choosing to ignore the whole topic, it did hurt his ego.
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I call bs on this. If he did force Ingrid, then obviously Chris is doing that also because to quote her she just "got the eff out of the west coast". That girl has her own issues. I do not think Luke forced her in anyway to spend Christmas in Iowa.pinkbows wrote:
Getting back to Luke,....Luke was always pushing Ingrid to spend Christmas with his family,
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Ingrid took no part in it because she had no reason to, he obviously didn't hurt her and there are no hard feelings between them, I don't feel like she suffered from any damaging situation. She still uses his vlogmas song and stuff that he gave her after all.BrightEyes wrote:I think she deleted the post where she mentioned your name? Because the only post she has about you, is the one that was posted on here.pinkbows wrote:Who hasn't sent anon hate ever? Especially on this site where we have people sending cleaning products disguised as make-up to people.
I don't really care about Whitney, she always gave me that stuck up vibe. Plus like Kleinz said, she slept with Luke knowing he was in a relationship with Kristina. I have zero tolerance for cheaters, so in a way, what happened to her is karma. But regardless of that Luke is a terrible person. From all this Luke drama it did make me somewhat admire Ingrid since she took no part in it. I find that even stronger for a person to keep quiet about a damaging situation, rather than constantly dwell on it. It just shows Luke that he really hurt Whitney and Kristina, and with creeps like him, he probably gets an ego boost knowing that. I am sure by Ingrid choosing to ignore the whole topic, it did hurt his ego.
And yeah Ingrid always spends Christmas with whoever is her boyfriend's(at the time) family. God forbid she ever spends christmas with her own mom or invites her bf to. She's so pathetic.
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I think that he didn't abuse Ingrid. It feels like it was a different situatuon with them two. Plus she seems like the kind of person who would speak up about this if othersi did too...
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In the New Media Rockstars article (http://newmediarockstars.com/2014/12/ou ... ie-collab/), Sarah Snitch responds:
Can someone explain how youtube allowed Luke to an abusive boyfriend? Isn't he just an abusive boyfriend that is coincidentally also on youtube? It's not as if his girlfriends were underage fans that he lured in using his youtube fame. I suppose one can argue that Luke used his dominate control over his band channel (and record sales) to influence Kristina. Do you think this is what Sarah means? If so, it didn't seem like Luke had a similar business situation with other people, unless he was also being manipulative toward his Ministry of Magic band.And he's back now because he hopes people have mostly forgotten what went down in March. He has not learned his lesson. If he had, he would not be on YouTube. He wouldn't be back to using the platform that allowed him to manipulate people.
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She deserved to get abused because she fucked another woman's man? Honey, you better get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.BrightEyes wrote: I don't really care about Whitney, she always gave me that stuck up vibe. Plus like Kleinz said, she slept with Luke knowing he was in a relationship with Kristina. I have zero tolerance for cheaters, so in a way, what happened to her is karma. But regardless of that Luke is a terrible person. From all this Luke drama it did make me somewhat admire Ingrid since she took no part in it. I find that even stronger for a person to keep quiet about a damaging situation, rather than constantly dwell on it. It just shows Luke that he really hurt Whitney and Kristina, and with creeps like him, he probably gets an ego boost knowing that. I am sure by Ingrid choosing to ignore the whole topic, it did hurt his ego.
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I think what Sarah meant that YouTube was a platform that helped to enable him to manipulate girls like Kristina, especially where he had the control of the income and funds.badbob001 wrote:In the New Media Rockstars article (http://newmediarockstars.com/2014/12/ou ... ie-collab/), Sarah Snitch responds:Can someone explain how youtube allowed Luke to an abusive boyfriend? Isn't he just an abusive boyfriend that is coincidentally also on youtube? It's not as if his girlfriends were underage fans that he lured in using his youtube fame. I suppose one can argue that Luke used his dominate control over his band channel (and record sales) to influence Kristina. Do you think this is what Sarah means? If so, it didn't seem like Luke had a similar business situation with other people, unless he was also being manipulative toward his Ministry of Magic band.And he's back now because he hopes people have mostly forgotten what went down in March. He has not learned his lesson. If he had, he would not be on YouTube. He wouldn't be back to using the platform that allowed him to manipulate people.
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I thought a few years ago we saw Ingrid at a Christmas party with her mom, and that's also when we met her childhood friend, and that friend's small child (I think it was the first Christmas after she moved into her first apartment)?MDNA wrote: And yeah Ingrid always spends Christmas with whoever is her boyfriend's(at the time) family. God forbid she ever spends christmas with her own mom or invites her bf to. She's so pathetic.
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But didn't she start dating Luke shortly after Christmas that year? So she was single at that point and that's why she spent time with her family.Kleineganz wrote:I thought a few years ago we saw Ingrid at a Christmas party with her mom, and that's also when we met her childhood friend, and that friend's small child (I think it was the first Christmas after she moved into her first apartment)?MDNA wrote: And yeah Ingrid always spends Christmas with whoever is her boyfriend's(at the time) family. God forbid she ever spends christmas with her own mom or invites her bf to. She's so pathetic.
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They were dating before then, they just didn't make it "official" until after the holidays.ECH wrote:But didn't she start dating Luke shortly after Christmas that year? So she was single at that point and that's why she spent time with her family.Kleineganz wrote:I thought a few years ago we saw Ingrid at a Christmas party with her mom, and that's also when we met her childhood friend, and that friend's small child (I think it was the first Christmas after she moved into her first apartment)?MDNA wrote: And yeah Ingrid always spends Christmas with whoever is her boyfriend's(at the time) family. God forbid she ever spends christmas with her own mom or invites her bf to. She's so pathetic.
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But even so, they weren't officially together. That's quite possibly why they didn't spend that Christmas together.Kleineganz wrote:They were dating before then, they just didn't make it "official" until after the holidays.
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Exactly. She hasn't spent one holiday (no Thanksgiving, no Christmas and basically every other US holiday there is) with her mom in forever. The last time was Christmas 2012 but I bet that she showed that same behaviour when she was in a relationship before that.ECH wrote:But even so, they weren't officially together. That's quite possibly why they didn't spend that Christmas together.Kleineganz wrote:They were dating before then, they just didn't make it "official" until after the holidays.
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Didn't Ingrid attend a wedding with Luke? I forgot if it was Fluer or someone from Luke's side of the family?sunshine21 wrote:Exactly. She hasn't spent one holiday (no Thanksgiving, no Christmas and basically every other US holiday there is) with her mom in forever. The last time was Christmas 2012 but I bet that she showed that same behaviour when she was in a relationship before that.ECH wrote:But even so, they weren't officially together. That's quite possibly why they didn't spend that Christmas together.Kleineganz wrote:They were dating before then, they just didn't make it "official" until after the holidays.
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She went to the wedding of Luke's friend, and former Ministry of Magic band mate. I forget his name off-hand, but they did several song duets together, including the "Talk Nerdy to Me" video that Ingrid appeared in.BrightEyes wrote: Didn't Ingrid attend a wedding with Luke? I forgot if it was Fluer or someone from Luke's side of the family?
By the time Ingrid went to Fleur's wedding, she and Luke had already broken up, and I think Joey went with her to that wedding.
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I'm really happy to see how much the views on his "vlogmas" videos have dropped off. Only 5,000-ish for his Christmas Day vlog. I think most of his fans are finally losing interest. Only the most rabid ones are still hanging on (saw one post from some delusional child about how she "really needs Luke and Ingrid to get back together...") Really!? I swear the fantasy world some of these kids live in, is very sad.
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I just watched his channel again after a really long time, what is with the hair
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