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Has anyone else noticed the heavily narcissistic vibes coming from this person in recent videos?

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Yeah she seems very controlling and just trying to portray that "chill" vibe
thats atleast what im seeing, haha

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Yay, glad to see a thread about the great guru Jinti on here. She's utterly insufferable.

I can see how some people might like her to begin with but don't know how they can continue when the inevitable cracks have started to show (as they do will all Yotubers eventually) and she's turned out to be as bad as all the rest.

Yotube attracts narcissistic attention seekers with God complexes and she's no different.

I started watching them to detox from the 'hard sell' of basement vloggers like the Sacconejolys who were making me sad for their children. I thought at least Aya seems happy and well cared for and I still, generally, think that but now I see Chris as the main parent and Jinti as quite a distant, emotionally brittle, figure.

She is clearly irritated by her daughter a lot of the time and admitted that she has no patience. She started to complain that Aya wasn't staying down long enough for naps for her to get anything done. The woman doesn't know she's born, she's got her partner there 24/7.

I think she was fine with the baby stage but is finding Aya's increasing independence and stubbornness (which all toddlers have) a bit more of a challenge.

I think its dreadful that they are getting another van; Aya has clearly come on leaps and bounds by not being cooped up in a van for the last few months. Its incredibly restrictive for children to live that way, especially the way they do it with a lot of time on the road.

I'd be worried that Aya isn't getting enough of a wide variety of experiences and meeting enough new people. Its so unhealthy to just be with your parents all the time, children need other children around or at least parents who are more engaged than those two are. They both seem so flimsy and lackadaisical, as if they're stoned half the time.

The whole law of attraction bollocks she spouts seems very self-serving. It's all about material possessions and acquiring this Instagram-ready lifestyle. Its about as deep and meaningful as a puddle.
They also strike me as potentially quite dishonest. They didn't admit that one of the beaches they stayed at was a very expensive resort. They make it look attainable for everyone when it simply isn't. People should be transparent about these things and not pretend its all just down to luck when its actually money from Youtube that has come through.

Her voice is also very annoying, like chalk on a board or strangled cats. Lol. I'm beginning to sound as if I really hate her when I actually don't I just think her 'brand' of vlogging is just as dangerous and misleading as the hard sellers. Just because you're vegan and prance around in a bikini it doesn't mean you're not a grasping greedy capitalist pig like the rest of them, pimping out your kid for views.

Finally they cry about people complaining about them showing Aya naked. In some vlogs you can see everything. In others they've gone back and blurred bits out.
She is not their possession. If Jinti wouldn't like to be shown naked to a load of strangers online then why is it ok for her daughter? We do not own our children's bodies. They deserve the same respect we give ourselves and the same degree of dignity and privacy.

I'd be very interested to hear what others say about this woman.

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I actually really enjoy their vlogs. Watching them is like a fresh of breath air in comparison to some of the other channels that I watch.
However, I worry that Ayana doesn't get enough interaction with kids her own age or people other than her parents. I also am curious how she will handle having a new sibling, she is constantly being interacted with by her parents every waking moment so I wonder if it will be hard for her to adjust to them having another baby to care for.

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^ Yeah I thought that too which is why I started watching them but now I don't think they're giving their daughter the best start in life.
She looks hollow eyed and pale. I'm vegan myself so not hating on that but you have to be very careful with a child's diet, they need supplements if they are to grow properly.
They seem far too overawed by being parents, as if every thing is cause for amazement. It feels too much as if they are spectators and just watching their child at one remove, as though she is some kind of exotic species they've never seen before.
Watch Our Curious Georgia ( the two families actually met in Bali) and you'll see the difference between engaged pro active parents who are teaching their child ,Georgia, and Aya's who seem very laissez faire by comparison.

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I thought I would do a quick search to see if jinti had a thread and she does!

I do enjoy watching her vlogs but there are some things that I often get curious about...

Like jinti doesn’t seem to be phased about seeing any medical professionals during her pregnancy. No scans blood tests or anything... if something is wrong she would have no clue about it...



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I've grown increasingly irritated by Jinti for numerous reasons.

1. Mostly, well entirely, for the way she is raising her child/children. Sure, she and others might say its none of our buisness sure but it kind of IS when she is broadcasting it on her platform to her viewers and somewhat influencing them to lead a similar lifestyle. I have nothing against veganism; I don't care, that's not my place to judge them on that but what I do judge them on is the fact that Ayana is made vegan. I don't know about you, but I believe a kid really needs those nutrients that come from a standard diet, when she's older then SHE can decide if she wants to be vegan because, as a previous comment has pointed out, she is not their possession. She's also a growing child who really should have a balanced diet consisting of more than just plants. But that is just my opinion because I'm worried about Aya.

2. She has heavily insinutated (specifically on instagram and on youtube) that they are anti-vax and she's said that she doesn't believe in using medicine. This is a topic that makes me extremely heated and MAD. VACCINATIONS!ARE!IMPORTANT! And not just for Aya and her sister but for the children and other people she will come into contact with. The person who first made that anti vaccination report saying it causes autism was a proven liar and the report was found to be inaccurate and wrong and blegh; just do the research please. Please. Do not use biased accounts for it. Look into it from actual doctors, scientists and medical experts who have time and time again rejected this notion and have said that vaccines save lives. Don't believe in vaccines??? Okay, go ahead and travel to a country that doesn't have access to vaccines and have a look at the people there. How they doing???? Not so great, eh??? Wonder WHY. UGH. It's so irresponsible!!

3. She said in her recent instagram story she is not sending her children to school and has said multiple times that they will be raising their kids by doing something called 'unschooling' which teaches kids on the basics of everyday life and things which is all well and good but...you're wasting the potential of Aya becoming a doctor or something else by limiting her schooling. This point is perhaps the most subjective but...it just makes me mad. It feels more like an attempt to be different, edgy, cool parents when in reality they could have sent her to a private school or home schooled her by using a tutor or something. Just as long as she could be given a good, well rounded education that would not limit her for the rest of her life. Correct me if I am wrong though, or if you were 'unschooled' and you're doing good because I'd like to know; my concern and anger is not coming from a place of utter hatred, it's from a place of worry for the children only. For Aya who seems like such a bright, sweet and wonderful child who deserves to live a long life and be given the right to a decent education.

4. Similarly to the anti vaxinations, she is also evidently not having any medical help with her pregnancy. She hasn't had a scan to check anything, she hasn't appeared to go to a hospital at all (though we don't know for sure, but in her instagram she's been pretty forthcoming about the fact she doesn't know the sex of the baby or anything because she hasn't had a scan and doesn't have a midwife or things) She is insisting on not getting any medical treatment/medical practitioners with her pregnancy and is not only putting herself at risk but also her baby. She's also not saying her birth plan; what I infer from that, given that she's usually quite open about all things in her life, is that she's not giving birth in a hospital (which is fair, since home birth is a thing) but I feel like they're doing it ALL natural with no midwife or anything. Though that is simply my speculation and may not be true but I really hope it's not true because I would absolutely hate if anything happened to her or her baby because of an insistence against modern medicine.

She is spreading a very unhealthy lifestyle of which people are subscribing to. It all seems like just a way to project this image of being hip and different but its putting her children at risk and that's why im upset.

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*Apologise about the double post - i am not sure how to edit my post but I wanted to clarify things*

To further add to what I have said, I am not angry/pissed or HATE Jinti; in fact I actually quite like her as a person - she is warm, welcoming and seemingly very loving. I'm annoyed because I would hate and be so heartbroken if anything happened to either her or her child during her pregnancy because of an objection to modern medicine/seeking professional help during the pregnancy. My main concern is just her children. I don't pretend to know everything about what vegan diets do to unborn children or growing kids but I can't imagine that every kind of essential nutrient is obtained by just eating plants.

I just do not understand why someone would not believe in modern medicine? History has proven it is essential. It just feels like the ultimate first world trend; "oh I have access to amazing health care and medicine but I want to be cool and subscribe to the notion that it's like, you know, totally bad for us." Do you get what I'm saying? It makes me mad because there are thousands and thousands of little kids around the world in lesser well off places who cannot afford or have access to health care that they desperately need while people like Jinti have it but just throw it away. I hope this makes sense.

Also, I accidentally wrote 'sister' in referring to the unborn baby, my apologies, we do not know the sex of the child and that was just a slip of the tongue. I meant sibling!

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Does no one think it’s odd that she said they think sex is important for them and they do have an active sex life but refuse to disclose how they have sex???? They live in a van and share the bed with their daughter.
I can’t help but think that Ayana actually is in the van when mom and dad have sex since they are the hippie let’s all be naked under the sun type of parents...I think that’s why they did not want to discuss how because the KNOW they will receive backlash

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Aya hardly ever gets to socialise with other kids and i feel quite sad and worried for her in that sense.
I feel like once new bub comes along aya might regress a little since her only playmate will be much younger than her.


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I agree with the concern about Aya and how she'll cope with a newborn sibling. A child can't have 'too much' attention but they can have too much of the same sort of attention all the time and she's very used to being the centre of their little world.
She's seems a little behind to me, especially with her speech. She'd definitely benefit from being around other children and having a wider social circle.

I can't see how this life is of any benefit to Aya. A child needs space to develop and feel grounded. I know they are outside a lot but they can hardly leave her to her own devices on a beach with other people around whereas if she had a proper place to play, a room or garden, then she might show more advanced signs of development.

These Youtube parents generally make me laugh. You'd think that having parents around all day would mean the children are more advanced but it usually works the opposite way round and most YT kids seem a bit disadvantaged from having parents who see life through a camera lens.

Jinti is pretty lazy and rarely even gets a vlog uploaded and he's so laid back he's almost comatose. If they weren't photogenic and shlepping around such beautiful coastline they'd just be seen as 'homeless and living in a van' so I really can't see what's so great about them but they get plenty of positive comments.

She was very devious about that shampoo segment though and didn't even admit they get money from affiliate links being clicked which you're meant to do. Dodgy AF.

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After watching their morning routine video i can not even imagine living this life for a weeklong holiday. Doing the same thing everyday would suck. Also it appears they never meet other people, I'm surprised they haven't gone mad

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They really don’t seem to socialise a lot do they?
Just them in their little bubble...
I honestly thought after they built the van they would be travelling to some really beautiful destinations, I’m not saying where they have been hasn’t been beautiful but they are just doing circles in the same area...
I think I would get so fed up with doing the same thing over and over...


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A couple of days ago, she posted a status video(?) where Aya was playing with a peacock feather. Aya looked so malnourished in that. Her belly was hard and big but her back looked so boney (just like malnourished children undeveloped countries). I commented on a picture about that and lo and behold, she blocked me and deleted my message.

No wonder, she just has a few but always positive messages under her pictures. Because she deletes all the negative ones...

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Most of the thinks disturb me about Jinti and Chris have already been said.

But there are two things I can't stand about them. First: They seem so unclean. So grimmy! Don't they know how to properly clean and present yourself?

Also the way Jinti speaks is just irritating.

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There's no way they're sleeping in the van every night. I bet they alternate with local air bnb etc. In the last vlog you could see that Jinti couldn't get comfortable on that bed even when she had it all to herself so no way is she sharing with Chris and Aya every night.

I just find them to be so devious. She never properly tags videos as ADs or admits she gets money for the affilaite links and youre meant to do that, even if youre in a different country. If your vlogs are shown in a country then you have to also abide by the laws of that country.

I guess it would ruin the image if her viewers realised just how much shilling of products goes into their minimalist lives.

The constant soft focus whimsy is annoyingly cloying. I feel sorry for the kid.

I found this comment under one of their videos:

The damaging part of this is the enmeshment. The child has no independence — the whole setup is creating huge levels of codependency and “emotional incest”. Mum is treating baby like a prop, and Dad is treating both like a video to be directed, watched, edited. I don’t see healthy interaction because that doesn’t occur ON CAMERA. The camera constantly rolling, with the parents aware of their millions of viewers — is turning the majority of this child’s life into a performance, or witnessing performance. We have no idea what this family actually behave like because all we see here is what they feel motivated to do on video to get money and all the "perks" of exploiting your privacy on social networking. That’s not a true snapshot of real family life but it is an insight into the fact there is narcissism and dysfunction. They want you to say they’re a healthy family, so they show you what they think that looks like so you overlook Mum's eating disorder and Dad’s aloofness. I’m not sure if they’ve stopped to think once about the psychological impact it may have on the child to be constantly forcing a camera in its face, constantly filming themselves speaking and behaving, shifting between on-camera and off-camera selves — that’s not raising a child on freedom, travel and expansion, it’s raising them on technology, appearance and non-consensual fame and putting the emphasis on capturing the moment rather than living it. This whole movement is filled with hypocrites. This life may look ideal to the romantic hippie types, but at what point do the parents have a right to impose a lifestyle on the child that doesn’t allow them any space or autonomy? Your best bet for offgrid living as a family unit is a commune — that way the community sees the real you and monitors the good and bad. But you don’t want that, do you? You want to be in full control of what people see.

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Wow on that comment, what video was that left under? I’m guessing it wasn’t left there long

Also how malnourished does she look :-/
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LikeAbutterfly wrote:Wow on that comment, what video was that left under? I’m guessing it wasn’t left there long

Also how malnourished does she look :-/
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she looks so underweight, you need to be eating about 300 more calories a day when pregnant and slight more when you reach the last few weeks due to the amount of weight you’re carrying around. i highly doubt that Jinti has been eating that much. in so many of her videos, you’ve been able to see her rib cage so easily, that cannot be healthy.


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izzybyrne wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:52 am
LikeAbutterfly wrote:Wow on that comment, what video was that left under? I’m guessing it wasn’t left there long

Also how malnourished does she look :-/
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she looks so underweight, you need to be eating about 300 more calories a day when pregnant and slight more when you reach the last few weeks due to the amount of weight you’re carrying around. i highly doubt that Jinti has been eating that much. in so many of her videos, you’ve been able to see her rib cage so easily, that cannot be healthy.


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On this picture it's not clearly visible but on other pictured and in videos you can see how underweight she is. My girlfriend didn't think she looked underweight until I pointed out to her that Jinit is pregnant. She didn't see that at first glance.

And her voice IS super annoying.

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^ Yes, I suppose she can't help the way she speaks but it's like a knife scraping across a plate. I couldn't be around someone like that all day long without zoning out or getting ear plugs!

She could probably do quite a lot to change it though, thinking about it.

That long comment I quoted is so brilliant, it could be applied to most family vloggers. It's a very problematic way to bring up a child.

Jinti is pals with 'Our Curious Georgia', a Canadian, vegan family of four who they met in Bali. At the moment that channel hasn't succumbed to the Youtube curse (where all vloggers turn out to be unutterable shits ) so maybe worth watching if you've not seen them before.

I think I'm just about done with vloggers now. The best part is what's said on forums like this!

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