Joan Kim is a Korean youtuber and vlogger who caters mostly to beauty and instagrammable cafes in Seoul. She often travels too. She left her radio dj job to focus on Youtube.
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I kinda I like her so far. I do enjoy her vlog channel more hence I unsuscribed from her main channel; she seems clueless about makeup. I still watch some skin care video of hers from time to time.
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I don't like her brother Abe at all!!! And she is always doing videos with him, so annoying! But maybe I'm the only one, because her subbies comments are like "sibblings goals"
(Sorry about my English! I'm still learning)
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yeah, i enjoy her vlogs too. and i like watching her meeting up with her friends (cause it's always a different personality)
same. i couldn't watch her main channel videos, idk why, it gets boring.
And Abe haha. kinda like him, he brings the fun and sarcasm in her vlogs.
same. i couldn't watch her main channel videos, idk why, it gets boring.
And Abe haha. kinda like him, he brings the fun and sarcasm in her vlogs.
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She travels so much! YouTube must be paying her good! But I kinda feel that her parents (or at least her father) are still banking her.
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I just started watching her and Edward Avila (does he have a thread? Can't find anything on GG). She seems nice but a bit boring sometimes. I hate how she pops up on camera and does the thing where she walks away from the camera or walks through the scene, etc. It seems so fake
She seems a bit ADHD, she would lose her train of thought all the time while she's in the middle of the sentences. "So here we are at Lotte Department store to go to the... yeah..." and you can actually hear her mind wandering off to somewhere else LOL. Or the camera's pointed towards here and she says, "Right now, I'm going to Innisfree cafe to meet... hm... *looks left and right* ?? yeah, so follow me along!" ????????
And even on her main channel she would be talking about a product and then seem to get confused and forget what she was talking about, lol. She seems to film her main channel stuff at a studio a lot so why doesn't see get a prompter or something.
I hate some of her friends... like that girl Whitney that she went to the toilet cafe with. I think when Kim Dao hung out with her and Edward and Edward complimented her on being so down for trying any food, he was probably shading Whitney. She's super annoying, picky, and kind of stupid.
I am very surprised at her Korean pronunciation... I can understand that she was raised in America but it seems worse than it should be since she seems intune with Korean culture...???
Although she seems pretty nice I am unsure I'll take beauty/skincare/makeup advice from her. Her skin condition doesn't seem that good no matter how much COSRX/ Troiareuke she uses and even after doing those skin treatments/Troi peels, etc. She does $300 Troi peels and her skin is still just ok. I wonder if her subs have THEMOSTHORRIBLESKINEVER to actually worship her skincare advice and want their skin to be like hers. I'll admit, my skin is fine (better than her's), so she's not someone I would look towards for skincare. And Troiareuke doesn't seem to sponsor her or Edward by giving them money or even free treatments. It looks like they just give them discounted rates and discounted skincare with extra samples, lol. And they obviously see them as marketers and not just customers since once they snapped at Joan and asked if she ate too much bread because her skin got worse, lol.
And she appears to have gotten something done to her nose, cheek fillers, and something to her jaw. The jaw and cheek changes look natural but her nose is just a bit off. Edward's nose looks better off.
And does her brother have a job in Korea? Is her brother gay?
She seems a bit ADHD, she would lose her train of thought all the time while she's in the middle of the sentences. "So here we are at Lotte Department store to go to the... yeah..." and you can actually hear her mind wandering off to somewhere else LOL. Or the camera's pointed towards here and she says, "Right now, I'm going to Innisfree cafe to meet... hm... *looks left and right* ?? yeah, so follow me along!" ????????
And even on her main channel she would be talking about a product and then seem to get confused and forget what she was talking about, lol. She seems to film her main channel stuff at a studio a lot so why doesn't see get a prompter or something.
I hate some of her friends... like that girl Whitney that she went to the toilet cafe with. I think when Kim Dao hung out with her and Edward and Edward complimented her on being so down for trying any food, he was probably shading Whitney. She's super annoying, picky, and kind of stupid.
I am very surprised at her Korean pronunciation... I can understand that she was raised in America but it seems worse than it should be since she seems intune with Korean culture...???
Although she seems pretty nice I am unsure I'll take beauty/skincare/makeup advice from her. Her skin condition doesn't seem that good no matter how much COSRX/ Troiareuke she uses and even after doing those skin treatments/Troi peels, etc. She does $300 Troi peels and her skin is still just ok. I wonder if her subs have THEMOSTHORRIBLESKINEVER to actually worship her skincare advice and want their skin to be like hers. I'll admit, my skin is fine (better than her's), so she's not someone I would look towards for skincare. And Troiareuke doesn't seem to sponsor her or Edward by giving them money or even free treatments. It looks like they just give them discounted rates and discounted skincare with extra samples, lol. And they obviously see them as marketers and not just customers since once they snapped at Joan and asked if she ate too much bread because her skin got worse, lol.
And she appears to have gotten something done to her nose, cheek fillers, and something to her jaw. The jaw and cheek changes look natural but her nose is just a bit off. Edward's nose looks better off.
And does her brother have a job in Korea? Is her brother gay?
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I have no idea if Edward has a thread here. Will find one, or make one if there's none yet.
i actually just watch her because of my fascination for Korea. And yes, I don't watch her main channel videos cause it's hella boring and idk if she knows what she's talking about. She's obv not a beauty guru, maybe just a vlogger but not a beauty guru cause she admitted that she doesn't really know how to do eye makeup.
I believe she was getting breakouts, i also wonder how she gets breakouts with having all of that skincare products. she seems easily impressed on how a product does.
I know Edward does surgery or filters, haven't watch his vlog lately but i saw one with a title "getting filters etc"
She shouldn't have quit her job as a radio dj, or maybe her youtube career is paying her big bucks for her to quit her everyday job.\
his brother is an english teacher or tutor?? idk i forgot what vlog she mentioned it cause everyone was asking. but yeah, sometimes i just get the feeling that she acts kinda "know it all" heh. same with her brother, the sarcasm is great but not always it gets annoying in the long run
i actually just watch her because of my fascination for Korea. And yes, I don't watch her main channel videos cause it's hella boring and idk if she knows what she's talking about. She's obv not a beauty guru, maybe just a vlogger but not a beauty guru cause she admitted that she doesn't really know how to do eye makeup.
I believe she was getting breakouts, i also wonder how she gets breakouts with having all of that skincare products. she seems easily impressed on how a product does.
I know Edward does surgery or filters, haven't watch his vlog lately but i saw one with a title "getting filters etc"
She shouldn't have quit her job as a radio dj, or maybe her youtube career is paying her big bucks for her to quit her everyday job.\
his brother is an english teacher or tutor?? idk i forgot what vlog she mentioned it cause everyone was asking. but yeah, sometimes i just get the feeling that she acts kinda "know it all" heh. same with her brother, the sarcasm is great but not always it gets annoying in the long run
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Re: Joan Kim
I don't think she got anything done to her nose. I know she lost weight and is less tan than before. She has her dads nose. I think her makeup or contour skills are drawing attention to her nose for bad reasons.takoyaki wrote:I just started watching her and Edward Avila (does he have a thread? Can't find anything on GG). She seems nice but a bit boring sometimes. I hate how she pops up on camera and does the thing where she walks away from the camera or walks through the scene, etc. It seems so fake
She seems a bit ADHD, she would lose her train of thought all the time while she's in the middle of the sentences. "So here we are at Lotte Department store to go to the... yeah..." and you can actually hear her mind wandering off to somewhere else LOL. Or the camera's pointed towards here and she says, "Right now, I'm going to Innisfree cafe to meet... hm... *looks left and right* ?? yeah, so follow me along!" ????????
And even on her main channel she would be talking about a product and then seem to get confused and forget what she was talking about, lol. She seems to film her main channel stuff at a studio a lot so why doesn't see get a prompter or something.
I hate some of her friends... like that girl Whitney that she went to the toilet cafe with. I think when Kim Dao hung out with her and Edward and Edward complimented her on being so down for trying any food, he was probably shading Whitney. She's super annoying, picky, and kind of stupid.
I am very surprised at her Korean pronunciation... I can understand that she was raised in America but it seems worse than it should be since she seems intune with Korean culture...???
Although she seems pretty nice I am unsure I'll take beauty/skincare/makeup advice from her. Her skin condition doesn't seem that good no matter how much COSRX/ Troiareuke she uses and even after doing those skin treatments/Troi peels, etc. She does $300 Troi peels and her skin is still just ok. I wonder if her subs have THEMOSTHORRIBLESKINEVER to actually worship her skincare advice and want their skin to be like hers. I'll admit, my skin is fine (better than her's), so she's not someone I would look towards for skincare. And Troiareuke doesn't seem to sponsor her or Edward by giving them money or even free treatments. It looks like they just give them discounted rates and discounted skincare with extra samples, lol. And they obviously see them as marketers and not just customers since once they snapped at Joan and asked if she ate too much bread because her skin got worse, lol.
And she appears to have gotten something done to her nose, cheek fillers, and something to her jaw. The jaw and cheek changes look natural but her nose is just a bit off. Edward's nose looks better off.
And does her brother have a job in Korea? Is her brother gay?
Was it in a vlog when the worker(?) from toriaruke snapped at her??
I agree that her skincare isn't working for her because she seems to be going through cosrx pimple patches at a ridiculous rate. She mentioned that she has bought and used so many in some skincare video. I thought to myself doesn't that you're skincare is not working? I got into skincare and I went from one huge pimple every few weeks to no pimple.
I was so surprised when I found out she was a English major at one point and worked at a radio station of all places. Ecause her English is not good and as someone mentioned here she's not good at thinking on her feet let alone finish a sentence/thought. She seems to have trouble using the correct preposition and makes mistakes with singular/plural verb/noun agreements way too frequently. Of course her limited vocabulary becomes really obvious
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I'm new to her so I'm watching recommended vids that are old and new. Her nose seems different, maybe fillers. Her cheeks definitely have fillers. Not sure if she got jaw shaving or botox there.
I watched a q and a video and she wanted to be an announcer or broadcaster... Omg... With her horrible ability with speech, no... And her dermatologist from times square gave her a book on improving her speech before lol. Maybe she told her dermatologist that she wanted to be an announcer and the dermatologist was like.... Um, I'd better help this poor girl out.
It's hard to watch her videos sometimes because she trains off in the middle of a sentence and can't complete her thoughts.
As for troiareuk, I think may e the expensive products which are $100 for each thing is what's improving her skin slightly. I've noticed that her and Edwards skin has deeper pit scars that last long after the treatment but their skin is smoother and glowy, but very good skincare can do that. The smoothness and glowyness goes away after they stop using the skincare consistently because they want to save it since it's so expensive. But their giant pit scars that they got after the treatment just remains. Tbh they can find much cheaper alternatives but they think the peels are what's helping.
I am getting bored of her and Edwards very quickly.
They should listen to sunny when she said less is more. And sunny even said that once she finds something that works she sticks to it instead of trying new things. Edward and Joan should take that advice instead of wanting money from sponsors , ruining their skin further, and then wasting their money on expensive treatments.
I watched a q and a video and she wanted to be an announcer or broadcaster... Omg... With her horrible ability with speech, no... And her dermatologist from times square gave her a book on improving her speech before lol. Maybe she told her dermatologist that she wanted to be an announcer and the dermatologist was like.... Um, I'd better help this poor girl out.
It's hard to watch her videos sometimes because she trains off in the middle of a sentence and can't complete her thoughts.
As for troiareuk, I think may e the expensive products which are $100 for each thing is what's improving her skin slightly. I've noticed that her and Edwards skin has deeper pit scars that last long after the treatment but their skin is smoother and glowy, but very good skincare can do that. The smoothness and glowyness goes away after they stop using the skincare consistently because they want to save it since it's so expensive. But their giant pit scars that they got after the treatment just remains. Tbh they can find much cheaper alternatives but they think the peels are what's helping.
I am getting bored of her and Edwards very quickly.
They should listen to sunny when she said less is more. And sunny even said that once she finds something that works she sticks to it instead of trying new things. Edward and Joan should take that advice instead of wanting money from sponsors , ruining their skin further, and then wasting their money on expensive treatments.
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Sunnydahye? idk how to spell her name sorry im not following her, maybe i should? but that girl's been in and out of surgery. so maybe... idk haha
yeah. and edward's vlogs are just too long for meeee. and gets boring in the middle. pfft. but Joan's vlogs are getting shorter though
yeah. and edward's vlogs are just too long for meeee. and gets boring in the middle. pfft. but Joan's vlogs are getting shorter though
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I have watched Joan's videos for a little bit over a year now. I think she's getting a little bit boring. In her vlogs, she does the same thing every day. At least her most recent US vlogs are more interesting to watch because she's doing something different. Her main channel is also pretty boring to me now. I feel she always talks about the same products.
Also, does anyone get annoyed that in almost every vlog, she is always apologizing for whatever reason?
Also, does anyone get annoyed that in almost every vlog, she is always apologizing for whatever reason?
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Yeah, SUnnydahye's gotten surgery and she gets skin treatments too so I cant trust her on skincare. Well, I can' t trust her on makeup either since her makeup isnt great, lol. But at least her skin is consistently good. Edward and Joan, for all the skin treatments and skincare they go through, their skin is not good. Especially Eddy's. Omg, Eddy's skin way back when he didn't have dyed hair, it looked so good and he also looked better looking. Now his skin looks like a battle field in France during WWII, christ.
Joan seems to put a lot of pressure on herself. She says she wants her vlogs to be long. But quantity isn't everything... I mean, at least joan goes out and she goes out enough that she had some times where she had to play tour guide to some random person for her agency, so I guess she's doing a good job? but she is just boring sometimes.
She seems totally like the female version of the "nice guy who is always friend zoned" stereotype. She seems nice and sweet and totally friend-worthy but doesn't seem girlfriend material for some reason?!?!? Like she has no attraction... I get that feeling from her, lol.
Joan seems to put a lot of pressure on herself. She says she wants her vlogs to be long. But quantity isn't everything... I mean, at least joan goes out and she goes out enough that she had some times where she had to play tour guide to some random person for her agency, so I guess she's doing a good job? but she is just boring sometimes.
She seems totally like the female version of the "nice guy who is always friend zoned" stereotype. She seems nice and sweet and totally friend-worthy but doesn't seem girlfriend material for some reason?!?!? Like she has no attraction... I get that feeling from her, lol.
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She seems to have some dedicated followers since she gets so many people subtitling her videos. I think DiaTV is investing in her a bit and hoping she gets big. but her recent travel to california has nothing to do with youtube, right? it's for her friend's bachelorette party.
I know this is not an Edward Avila thread but i am just shocked at how worse he is looking. I watch his videos when they are recommended and not in order so I watched videos of him with his black, undyed hair and he just looks so much better... his skin is better (at least it can be covered well in makeup) and his hair looks nice. Now he looks like a slobby mess. His video with Eunice on wishtrend was so ew. She said she loved her makeup but when she turned you can see the 3 sharp brush stokes of the contour next to her ear.
I know this is not an Edward Avila thread but i am just shocked at how worse he is looking. I watch his videos when they are recommended and not in order so I watched videos of him with his black, undyed hair and he just looks so much better... his skin is better (at least it can be covered well in makeup) and his hair looks nice. Now he looks like a slobby mess. His video with Eunice on wishtrend was so ew. She said she loved her makeup but when she turned you can see the 3 sharp brush stokes of the contour next to her ear.
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Better make this a Joan and Edward thread haha.
I actually enjoyed her music festival vlog, cause I like Dean too
But did you see Eddy's new hair??!?!?!?? looking like that monsters inc. character. ohmy what is he doing. his skin's getting worst because of all the harsh hair coloring stuff he uses
I actually enjoyed her music festival vlog, cause I like Dean too
But did you see Eddy's new hair??!?!?!?? looking like that monsters inc. character. ohmy what is he doing. his skin's getting worst because of all the harsh hair coloring stuff he uses
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His new fillers are pretty bad... he says it'll settle down after a couple of months, hopefully it works out for him. looking at him back when he had his natural black hair and no fillers/minimal fillers, he looked so much better. His head looks pretty huge now.
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^ I agree completely. I think some youtube viewers aren't very smart... they think that just because someone has a youtube channel, they are automatically more knowledgeable about skincare and makeup. I meant, at least Joan has stated that she is not an expert on skincare and makeup but i feel like she needs to mention it more often... Even Sunny said she didn't know she had dry skin until very recently. It's normal for the average person to not know their skin type, but she makes a living off putting things on her skin, so she should know her skintype right?!?!? ANd Joan agreed and said that she is no expert either.
Joan goes for expensive treatments every month, right? Does she go to both the place in Times Square and to Troiareuk? I mean, if she's spending $100~$300 per treatment per month and she is STILL have skin troubles (and her skin seems to be getting worse... not too bad, not as bad as Edward's but it's not getting better), then I really don't think her viewers should trust her skincare advice!! She gets peeling treatments TOO much. She says she looks great right after the treatment (of course, they put on great skincare after the treatment and it looks good for a couple of days) and then she goes through a week of horrifying peeling, and the she says her skin looks great. Of course it looks great if they PEEL A LAYER OF YOUR SKIN OFF. But her moisture barrier is completely f'ed up and instead of properly repairing it, she goes for ANOTHER peel next month. I guess her derms don't tell her so she can keep spending money to peel layers of her face off.
She is exactly like the british youtuber TalkBeckyTalk who is constantly scrubbing her face and using crazy DIY scrubs and peel off masks to pull layers of her skin off and thinking it's a great idea because initially, her skin feels soft. Of course it's soft... you ripped the top layer of your skin off!! And your skin will look awful after because it's been damaged and before you can let it repair itself, you just go off and rip another layer of skin off. They're both going to hit bone one day.
I actually like her vlogs with her brother compared to other people. the vlogs with Sunny, especially in Hong Kong, she seemed a little tired of Sunny, lol. And Sunny seemed a bit tired of her too, lol. Joan sometimes gets that way with some female friends. She seems to get along with her brother and gay male friends better.
Wow, so interesting about the DiaTV thing. It's kind of sketchy that they just have a rewards zone and the points expire after a month and Joan had to forfeit her points because the person who handles it wasn't working at the time. It's basically her month's salary down the drain. I wonder if they do it that way so that DiaTV is not PAYING them so they can say they're not SPONSORED. I don't see why Joan or a staff member can't write down what she took and just get her items... And it's so funny that Joan actually has to pay money to DiaTV. She should give them rewards points instead, LOL
oh, and Joan said once she got an email for a sponsorship opportunity and had to forward it to her management because it involved money and then she never heard from the sponsor again. And she ended up just recorded the store anyways. I guess her management wasn't getting enough money from that so they turned it down.
Didn't Edward want to be a part of DiaTV at one point? He was in ilikeweylie's management and hated it and they recontracted him without telling him. He said he wanted to be with DiaTV like Joan and SUnny but not he's with Treasure Hunter who seems to sign with a lot of gay youtubers?
It's weird that he kind of scoffed and rolled his eyes when he mentioned ilikeweylie because he is SOOO similar to her boyfriend, Wah!!! They kind of looked the same back when he had black hair and pre-plastic surgery and since their personalities are so similar. I hate Wah but I can tolerate Edward despite their similarities.
Joan goes for expensive treatments every month, right? Does she go to both the place in Times Square and to Troiareuk? I mean, if she's spending $100~$300 per treatment per month and she is STILL have skin troubles (and her skin seems to be getting worse... not too bad, not as bad as Edward's but it's not getting better), then I really don't think her viewers should trust her skincare advice!! She gets peeling treatments TOO much. She says she looks great right after the treatment (of course, they put on great skincare after the treatment and it looks good for a couple of days) and then she goes through a week of horrifying peeling, and the she says her skin looks great. Of course it looks great if they PEEL A LAYER OF YOUR SKIN OFF. But her moisture barrier is completely f'ed up and instead of properly repairing it, she goes for ANOTHER peel next month. I guess her derms don't tell her so she can keep spending money to peel layers of her face off.
She is exactly like the british youtuber TalkBeckyTalk who is constantly scrubbing her face and using crazy DIY scrubs and peel off masks to pull layers of her skin off and thinking it's a great idea because initially, her skin feels soft. Of course it's soft... you ripped the top layer of your skin off!! And your skin will look awful after because it's been damaged and before you can let it repair itself, you just go off and rip another layer of skin off. They're both going to hit bone one day.
I actually like her vlogs with her brother compared to other people. the vlogs with Sunny, especially in Hong Kong, she seemed a little tired of Sunny, lol. And Sunny seemed a bit tired of her too, lol. Joan sometimes gets that way with some female friends. She seems to get along with her brother and gay male friends better.
Wow, so interesting about the DiaTV thing. It's kind of sketchy that they just have a rewards zone and the points expire after a month and Joan had to forfeit her points because the person who handles it wasn't working at the time. It's basically her month's salary down the drain. I wonder if they do it that way so that DiaTV is not PAYING them so they can say they're not SPONSORED. I don't see why Joan or a staff member can't write down what she took and just get her items... And it's so funny that Joan actually has to pay money to DiaTV. She should give them rewards points instead, LOL
oh, and Joan said once she got an email for a sponsorship opportunity and had to forward it to her management because it involved money and then she never heard from the sponsor again. And she ended up just recorded the store anyways. I guess her management wasn't getting enough money from that so they turned it down.
Didn't Edward want to be a part of DiaTV at one point? He was in ilikeweylie's management and hated it and they recontracted him without telling him. He said he wanted to be with DiaTV like Joan and SUnny but not he's with Treasure Hunter who seems to sign with a lot of gay youtubers?
It's weird that he kind of scoffed and rolled his eyes when he mentioned ilikeweylie because he is SOOO similar to her boyfriend, Wah!!! They kind of looked the same back when he had black hair and pre-plastic surgery and since their personalities are so similar. I hate Wah but I can tolerate Edward despite their similarities.
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For most other management, they usually take a cut of their sponsorship for a management fee. But for DiaTV, according to you, Joan has to give them money. Joan gets products for the points she ears (the points are made by doing videos for DiaTV anyways, right??? So does Joan doesn't get money from the views from those videos, just points) but she ends up reviewing those products which benefits DiaTV and those companies and then the money Joan gets from those views, a portion of it goes to DiaTV. DiaTV is definitely getting more benefits from this arrangement.
I read on PULL that it's possible that Joan used to help edit videos for Jenn Im and eventually went to Korea and started making her own youtube channel.
Joan, Edward and the other Asian vloggers get more conversation on PULL but i'm not sure I want to make an account over there.
I'm not sure about the Troiareuke thing because I'm watching Joan and Edwards vlogs as they are being recommended to me and it's out of order but Edward said that he gets a VERY small discount from Troiareuke and says that he pays for the skincare and cushions after the treatment. Maybe as time went on, they started properly sponsoring them and he now gets free or bigger discounts on treatments and maybe he gets the skincare and cushions for free now. I know Troiareuke asked Joan to give Eunice or whatever her name is - the annoying wishtrend girl who says YYYyaaaahHHHHssssszzzz all the damn time and sounds like an idiot - free cushions and other products.
I read on PULL that it's possible that Joan used to help edit videos for Jenn Im and eventually went to Korea and started making her own youtube channel.
Joan, Edward and the other Asian vloggers get more conversation on PULL but i'm not sure I want to make an account over there.
I'm not sure about the Troiareuke thing because I'm watching Joan and Edwards vlogs as they are being recommended to me and it's out of order but Edward said that he gets a VERY small discount from Troiareuke and says that he pays for the skincare and cushions after the treatment. Maybe as time went on, they started properly sponsoring them and he now gets free or bigger discounts on treatments and maybe he gets the skincare and cushions for free now. I know Troiareuke asked Joan to give Eunice or whatever her name is - the annoying wishtrend girl who says YYYyaaaahHHHHssssszzzz all the damn time and sounds like an idiot - free cushions and other products.
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I agree that her skin is getting worse and shes in denial about it in a way. I think her skincare routine is not working since she mentions in her empties videos that she goes through a ton of cosrx pimple patches . For example she has nothing for acne in her skincare routine like a bha or benzoyl peroxide. She keeps saying nonsense like climate change makes me break out. I think that's bs since pimples have incubation times so you can't exactly pinpoint exactly when it started developing. She just seems dead set on using certain products like the toriaruke ones rather than looking to what's exactly effective for acne.
I think those skincare clinics like toriaruke are bull shit. They're a business and they want your money. Are you really going to go to them for the rest of your life?? I honestly think unless you have cystic acne (in that case see a doctor) a good skin care routine will fix it.
Maybe she thinks that because she has acne prone skin that she'll have acne for the rest of her life and doesn't realize it's not normal to have acne that often especially you're putting that much time and effort into skincare. It means your skincare ain't working which is evident by the never ending acne. I don't understand why refuses to assess the situation. I used to get acne every few weeks and now I get none because I did my skincare research and figured out that the star ingredients for acne are benzoyl peroxide and bha. I am acne free. It's interesting how Joan thinks she's very knowledgeable about skincare yet she's not since her own skin is not in good shape since she actually isn't that knowledgeable
I always get annoyed with how much pressure she puts on her face when she does her skincare routine like with that cosrx pad or when she washes her face with the toriaruke cleanser. And I have absolutely when youtubers say one of the reasons toning is important is that you can make sure that you remove all your makeup and then show you a toner pad with make up on it. It just means your cleanser sucks or you have horrible cleaning technique
By the way does the toriaruke clinic treatment involve peels? I thought they just pop her pimples and put masks on
I think those skincare clinics like toriaruke are bull shit. They're a business and they want your money. Are you really going to go to them for the rest of your life?? I honestly think unless you have cystic acne (in that case see a doctor) a good skin care routine will fix it.
Maybe she thinks that because she has acne prone skin that she'll have acne for the rest of her life and doesn't realize it's not normal to have acne that often especially you're putting that much time and effort into skincare. It means your skincare ain't working which is evident by the never ending acne. I don't understand why refuses to assess the situation. I used to get acne every few weeks and now I get none because I did my skincare research and figured out that the star ingredients for acne are benzoyl peroxide and bha. I am acne free. It's interesting how Joan thinks she's very knowledgeable about skincare yet she's not since her own skin is not in good shape since she actually isn't that knowledgeable
I always get annoyed with how much pressure she puts on her face when she does her skincare routine like with that cosrx pad or when she washes her face with the toriaruke cleanser. And I have absolutely when youtubers say one of the reasons toning is important is that you can make sure that you remove all your makeup and then show you a toner pad with make up on it. It just means your cleanser sucks or you have horrible cleaning technique
By the way does the toriaruke clinic treatment involve peels? I thought they just pop her pimples and put masks on
Re: Joan Kim
finally...i've found her thread
I'm just gonna put it out there, this girl epitomises right place, right time. If she wasn't friends with Edward Avila, her channel never would have taken off. She excuses her lack of make up skills because she's more skincare but her skincare knowledge is that of an average person, her hair tutorial was abysmal and when she first started her vlogging channel, she click baited the hell out of YG/SM, KPOP in general. I'm sure her main channel is a sham lol, how can one person go through so many products to warrant so many KBeauty Empties? They're always on my recommended page.
She got with DiaTV because she got the subs from Eddy, she's said herself that there's over a thousand creators signed with the network. She explained in a vid herself, they take a cut out of her ad revenue and sponsorship deals.
She's so try-hard with her hair and style as well. She's trying to be someone she's not. She does things like dye her hair, get her hair cut etc for footage and not film because she was gonna do them things anyway.
She's socially awkward, you could tell when she was at that bachelorette party and when she said to her friend 'how ironic you taught me about beauty but i'm the one pursuing a career in it'? career? in beauty?
She has Eddy and KPOP to thank for her 'career', without either, there would be no interest in her channel at all.
I'm just gonna put it out there, this girl epitomises right place, right time. If she wasn't friends with Edward Avila, her channel never would have taken off. She excuses her lack of make up skills because she's more skincare but her skincare knowledge is that of an average person, her hair tutorial was abysmal and when she first started her vlogging channel, she click baited the hell out of YG/SM, KPOP in general. I'm sure her main channel is a sham lol, how can one person go through so many products to warrant so many KBeauty Empties? They're always on my recommended page.
She got with DiaTV because she got the subs from Eddy, she's said herself that there's over a thousand creators signed with the network. She explained in a vid herself, they take a cut out of her ad revenue and sponsorship deals.
She's so try-hard with her hair and style as well. She's trying to be someone she's not. She does things like dye her hair, get her hair cut etc for footage and not film because she was gonna do them things anyway.
She's socially awkward, you could tell when she was at that bachelorette party and when she said to her friend 'how ironic you taught me about beauty but i'm the one pursuing a career in it'? career? in beauty?
She has Eddy and KPOP to thank for her 'career', without either, there would be no interest in her channel at all.