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Seasidedreams wrote:I'm not really angry about the withholding of the name, more disappointed and annoyed, but I can understand why others would feel so. It's not so much about whether or not we're ever going to meet Jingle, but more about the rather inconsiderate and unsympathetic way that she has gone about it. How she has treated her followers as unimportant with this baby name saga she created for herself.

She decided to keep the name a secret just to her followers (I believe she said for "superstitious" reasons at one time) but was happy to tell her friends and family. Not only that, but she seemed totally comfortable with the fact they gave her gifts with the name already etched onto them.

So that unequal treatment probably felt unfair to some of her followers. Then there's the fact she didn't say she would be revealing the name until several more weeks after Jingle's arrival, when it was generally expected to be shared shortly afterwards.

That was a lovely surprise. Also, the lack of sympathy and her non-apology when explaining her reasons for doing so. Those reasons seemed pretty weak, especially because she doesn't come across as being that sensitive and fearful of criticism in her videos, but I can understand that she might be feeling more raw and vulnerable at this time.

So after everything that has happened - and remember this been building up for months - her withholding the name because of a bit of potential criticism seems like a weak and insincere reason, particularly as she has shown to be money hungry despite her wealth (like with all the outfits on a headless Jingle) and also because she seems to lack a real sense of consideration and gratitude towards her fans, many of whom have supported her for years.
This. Everything you just said.

Her viewers are the main reason she even exists on YouTube and without them she'd just be another wealthy stay-at-home wife that no one gives two shits about. So talking about the baby for 6 months, posting videos about what she got her and names she won't be using was just to get free stuff out of it. She just used her viewers and when they felt invested she basically said "lol, fuck you, I'll only share the name with the important people in my life. Not you, peasants". She was happy when everyone was showering her with compliments and congratulating her because it gave her a huge ego boost. Yes it's HER baby and she can do whatever she wants, but don't hype it up for half a year if you had no intention to share the name from the beginning.

She doesn't deserve a single view on her name reveal video. I won't watch it.

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If it really isn't about the money she should be happy to donate the revenue from the announcement video to charity, eh?

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ittybittykitty wrote:
kaymaroff wrote:I don’t think it matters that she hasn’t shared the name, honestly, we’ll find out at some point.
She’s just had her first child and is obviously bonding with her baby and adjusting to life as Mum. Let’s be honest, it’s one of the biggest things you can do.
I’m glad that she’s taking some time off, as you would in a “normal” job


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lol thank you!!! I was beginning to think I was crazy for having some empathy for her situation right now. I've never been pregnant but I've seen friends and family immediately after having a baby and it's crazy emotional and HARD. I don't understand those daily vloggers that upload a birth vlog the same day! How??? :o The recovery for a C-section is longer as well. I get that you're curious about the name but she has every right to go about it exactly how she wants. Be angry at her all you want, but her only obligation is to herself as her own boss and to the brands that she works with. That's the joy of being self-employed and she is very lucky for it. But even if she wasn't, she'd be on maternity leave right now and so what she's doing is absolutely justified imo.
But she isnt on maternity leave when shes still posting pictures on instagram tagging brands. That is her work.

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Anyway im not a mum but i thought babies slept the majority of the time when they are newborns? Why wouldnt she have time to sit on the sofa and make a video of the name/post a picture of it.

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Newborns also feed for many hours a day. If she is breastfeeding she will be the one getting up several times during the night to feed. Although they do sleep a lot, the lack of sleep for a new mum is exhausting.

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What annoys me is how pretentious she is about everything. She’s not the one acknowledging how different things would be than she expected, it’s the viewers and commenters on here that are offering that excuse for her. A lot of people are saying she’s above this type of behavior, but how do you know that for sure?

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Maybe but she would have no brands to work with or any of the other perks without her audience

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Tink1987 wrote:
PinkPoppy wrote:First post ....hi!!!

Is her real name Fleur ??
Hey, welcome!

Yes it is. It’s her last name she tries to keep private.
Sorry to drag this up, the thread is moving so fast. She has left her surname fully visible in videos before, that's the only reason I know it. It doesn't seem to be part of her brand like let's say Louise Pentland, but I remember a vlog where she was going to some event and showed the invite, which had her full name on it, even her middle name. If she was actively trying to keep it private she had the choice of either not filming it in the first place or cutting it out afterwards, so I don't think it's a big deal to mention her surname.

I don't think Star is the worst thing she could name lil Jingle. Or maybe I have just built up a tolerance to weird baby names.

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getinmymachine wrote:
Tink1987 wrote:
PinkPoppy wrote:First post ....hi!!!

Is her real name Fleur ??
Hey, welcome!

Yes it is. It’s her last name she tries to keep private.
Sorry to drag this up, the thread is moving so fast. She has left her surname fully visible in videos before, that's the only reason I know it. It doesn't seem to be part of her brand like let's say Louise Pentland, but I remember a vlog where she was going to some event and showed the invite, which had her full name on it, even her middle name. If she was actively trying to keep it private she had the choice of either not filming it in the first place or cutting it out afterwards, so I don't think it's a big deal to mention her surname.

I don't think Star is the worst thing she could name lil Jingle. Or maybe I have just built up a tolerance to weird baby names.
What is her middle name? Image


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Does she not realize that her hundreds of thousands of followers are doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses, entrepreneurs, etc. They are not beneath her and they are her audience and customers. They have the freedom to take business elsewhere, not cheer her on/support her, if they choose not to. There's PLENTY of other YouTubers to get shopping, lifestyle inspiration from. Fleur, your supporters are actual people and although you only care about big numbers, or clicks, or views, you are alienting them. I'm not talking about the occassional wacko who posts something truly mean about an innocent child, but they way she does business is really off putting. Elle Fowler did the same thing. BIt hands that fed her and became hostile to them.

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I didn't care about the name of the baby, I though she wanted to share it with her family and close friends first. Get them to know the kid before everyone else on social media, but after that instastory I am really worried about the name. If she is afraid to release it to grown ups on social media, imagine what it would be like when she starts school. I truly think that this kid is gonna be bullied for her name her whole life because her parents wanted her to be so unique.

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I'm sure someone will tell me that I'm reading far too much into this but, in my opinion, the emojis she used after writing 'not revealing the name yet, watch this space' are emojis that say to me 'I know exactly what I'm doing and that's dragging out the reveal to try and create a frenzy'. I think if she had been apprehensive about the reaction to Jingle's name she would have stated that the name wouldn't be released for a few weeks after the birth in the 'OMG the baby's coming' video. Especially considering that she would have already experienced the reaction of her family and friends to the name at that stage.

I'm not angry/annoyed etc etc about the name not being released but I just don't get why she's gone down this route. As others have said, the best way to avoid comments on the name would have been to announce it alongside a post stating that everything had gone well and then go off SM completely for a while and enjoy the newborn stage. Or even just to disable the bloody comments. Delaying the reveal isn't going to deter the people out there who will leave nasty comments about the name. Best to get it over and done with and just focus on spending time with Jingle.

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If I've learnt anything about Fleur in the past few years, it's that she's every bit as petty and contrived as she appears to be. It's funny how she had no problem milking all the free baby stuff brands gave her, despite her MEGA wealth, and she made vlogs about the pregnancy, and did pregnancy updates etc, yet now she's suddenly needing "privacy"?? Yeah, ok. Withholding the name is just sad way for her drum up hype in an attempt to get her pathetic followers more interested. Tragic. If she really and truly didn't want anyone paying attention to her baby then she could've easily kept all new/events about her pregnancy offline. Oh and why is she now all of a sudden worried about negative comments? She's shared her life with us online for like what, early a decade? You'd think she'd be used to criticism by now...

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CalmYaFarm wrote:Yeh I agree that people need to calm down a bit. It’s just like the time she didn’t do the charity run and everyone kicked up a stink because she kept quiet about her reasons, and a few weeks later she said why and everything went back to normal.
In terms of the name, I just don’t think Mike would allow something utterly stupid. Unique, sure. Maybe Larry/Lawrence? I really hope someone here guesses at least one of her given names!


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So many people gave her an easy pass for not doing the race but being pregnant should not have excused her from barely doing any promotion for the charity, or at least even walking a portion of the race. However, she gave an excuse, everyone forgave her because they were just so excited for her, and she escaped yet again unscathed. She has a knack for that.

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tadahhhhh wrote:If I've learnt anything about Fleur in the past few years, it's that she's every bit as petty and contrived as she appears to be. It's funny how she had no problem milking all the free baby stuff brands gave her, despite her MEGA wealth, and she made vlogs about the pregnancy, and did pregnancy updates etc, yet now she's suddenly needing "privacy"?? Yeah, ok. Withholding the name is just sad way for her drum up hype in an attempt to get her pathetic followers more interested. Tragic. If she really and truly didn't want anyone paying attention to her baby then she could've easily kept all new/events about her pregnancy offline. Oh and why is she now all of a sudden worried about negative comments? She's shared her life with us online for like what, early a decade? You'd think she'd be used to criticism by now...
This is actually something that bothers me about youtubers in general. I understand why companies send these rich people products, because its promotion. But at the same time, they don't need a bunch of free shit. Why did she not offer ANY of the things she got as giveaways? She has two breast pumps (who needs two?), why not give one away?

'I've heard this is an amazing brand, it does x y and z and I'm so grateful that I was sent it, but I'm sure one of you would really love this too!'

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Wasn't she just silly not to have said her name when she put up the first picture of the baby and no one would have batted an eyelid! Now she has built up all this unnecessary drama around the name which will probably end up being an overreaction when we finally hear the name! She has had months to get used to the name, it just makes no sense that she is afraid someone will say something mean about it on social media. The baby will probably have a nickname anyway - isn't Fleur called 'Werber' it want be worse than that surely?!

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I get her explanation to why she's not sharing the name yet, but I also feel like if the name is that controversial, maybe you should have just picked another name? I mean, little Jingle is going to have to present herself with that name for the rest of her life.

Honestly, I didn't think the name reveal was going to be such a big deal. I basically just expected a post on instagram with a caption along the lines of "Welcome to the world little [name]".
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Montymoo wrote:
tadahhhhh wrote:If I've learnt anything about Fleur in the past few years, it's that she's every bit as petty and contrived as she appears to be. It's funny how she had no problem milking all the free baby stuff brands gave her, despite her MEGA wealth, and she made vlogs about the pregnancy, and did pregnancy updates etc, yet now she's suddenly needing "privacy"?? Yeah, ok. Withholding the name is just sad way for her drum up hype in an attempt to get her pathetic followers more interested. Tragic. If she really and truly didn't want anyone paying attention to her baby then she could've easily kept all new/events about her pregnancy offline. Oh and why is she now all of a sudden worried about negative comments? She's shared her life with us online for like what, early a decade? You'd think she'd be used to criticism by now...

This is actually something that bothers me about youtubers in general. I understand why companies send these rich people products, because its promotion. But at the same time, they don't need a bunch of free shit. Why did she not offer ANY of the things she got as giveaways? She has two breast pumps (who needs two?), why not give one away?

'I've heard this is an amazing brand, it does x y and z and I'm so grateful that I was sent it, but I'm sure one of you would really love this too!'

Call me a socialist, bleeding heart liberal, lefty, you name it. Bring it on. But you are so right. There are givers and takers in this world and most of the givers I know don't have a pot to piss in but they still give because they can relate and have empathy. WTH does she need all this shit for? Yes yes it's HER 2 breast pumps "MY breast pumps". All that gluttony when you know that there's people out working just as hard if not harder but didn't inherit a thing. I find it unseemly and gross.

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I bet anything that the only reason why she's withholding the name this long is probably to get her lawyers and her team to get all the appropriate social media account names for her baby like she did with the dogs.

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[quote="whiterabbit"]I bet anything that the only reason why she's withholding the name this long is probably to get her lawyers and her team to get all the appropriate social media account names for her baby like she did with the dogs.

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good point. oy vey.

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