Soniaxfyza

[Karmenvalentina987]

The funny thing is Sonia wasn't actually embarrassed about her ethnicity. Whenever people would ask her where she's from she used to tell them she was Pakistani Kashmiri


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I feel so so so bad for Sonia cos faeza changed her and I remember when she used to always post imran khan songs and say how much she loves him etc

[Karmenvalentina987]

Thing is Sonia and faeza have been begging to be everything and anything but south Asian since they've been on the social media. Remember the obsession with Cuba and pretending that they can speak Spanish ? It's not really even mainly about making it in Dubai it's about their own fucked up perceptions of ethnicity, they've always thought it was cool or something to pretend to be whatever they've claimed to be rather than Pakistani. Sonia and faeza could've been two v different characters, without the racism and lies I'm pretty sure most girls exposing them here would like them and support them ?

[mia94]

Yep they have always wanted to be anything but Pakistani. I think they went with Arab because of the Muslim link and their Arabic names so it would be more believable? And they're are not the only Pakistani girls in Birmingham that dislike being Pakistani and want to be a more "exotic" race. I've seen it in other Asian girls too but yea is Sonia even an Arabic name, I've only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name. I think the reason they hate being Pakistani so much is because of where they are from in the UK. If you know Birmingham and the alum rock/washwood heath area you know what kinda reputation Pakistanis in that area have. That area is mainly Pakistanis from villages back home which I don't think they liked being associated with. Faeza herself used to say that they were "backwards" and inbred" blah blah. And while there are arabs in Birmingham, it's a lot less than Pakistanis, which Birmingham is known for, and you know our girl faeza and her obsession to be ~~unique and exotic~~ lul


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[makeupcatcha]

Excuse me but they chose to move to dubai/kuwait knowing how arabs view pakistani / south asian people so them lying about being arab just because of how they are treated in the gulf makes them even more disgusting because it means they agree with it instead of standing up for their race and changing peoples views. It has nothing to do with how arabs treat south asians it's simply because they're ashamed of being pakistani no matter how pakistanis are treated or viewed in whatever country. I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all. besides everyone in the gulf knows about their plastic surgery since one of our popular and big accounts posted their before and after pictures but no one cares because they're so irrelevant. the only ppl who care about them or follow them are 12 year old kids.

[Roxx]

Excuse me but they chose to move to dubai/kuwait knowing how arabs view pakistani / south asian people so them lying about being arab just because of how they are treated in the gulf makes them even more disgusting because it means they agree with it instead of standing up for their race and changing peoples views. It has nothing to do with how arabs treat south asians it's simply because they're ashamed of being pakistani no matter how pakistanis are treated or viewed in whatever country.

They choose to move to the Gulf knowing how much money there is to be made in the escort trade, and lying about being Arab makes sense if you realize that middle eastern porta-potties are said to be more highly regarded/prized. I'm not saying it's right, but it appears to have been a calculating business decision on their part.

I don't feel any more sorry for these girls than I do for the Bollywood celebrities that have long been rumored to work the skin trade in Dubai: South Asians no more like or respect Emiratis than Emiratis respect South Asians (there's actually a term Desis use called "Budoo/Budu": it means bedouin but carries connotations of stupidity, backwardness and ignorance), they're just in it for the money not unlike their Dubai clients who are in it for the bragging rights. Money for beauty, beauty for money.

I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all.

Persians and Iranians are not the same thing (Iranian is a nationality; there are various ethnic groups living in Iran and not all of them are ethnically Persian). I know it's confusing because many Iranians will refer to themselves as Persian simply because they can speak Farsi, but most of them have more in common with a Persian carpet or a Persian cat than an ethnic Persian person. And perhaps Iranians "are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf", but I've seen Iranians both in person and on TV, and let's just say that the reality doesn't quite live up to the hype.

besides everyone in the gulf knows about their plastic surgery since one of our popular and big accounts posted their before and after pictures but no one cares because they're so irrelevant. the only ppl who care about them or follow them are 12 year old kids.

Yeah, but as everyone in the gulf is also reputed to have plastic surgery, can Khaleeji women really judge? Or is it the quality of the work that's being criticized?

[makeupcatcha]

Excuse me but they chose to move to dubai/kuwait knowing how arabs view pakistani / south asian people so them lying about being arab just because of how they are treated in the gulf makes them even more disgusting because it means they agree with it instead of standing up for their race and changing peoples views. It has nothing to do with how arabs treat south asians it's simply because they're ashamed of being pakistani no matter how pakistanis are treated or viewed in whatever country.

They choose to move to the Gulf knowing how much money there is to be made in the escort trade, and lying about being Arab makes sense if you realize that middle eastern porta-potties are said to be more highly regarded/prized. I'm not saying it's right, but it appears to have been a calculating business decision on their part.

I don't feel any more sorry for these girls than I do for the Bollywood celebrities that have long been rumored to work the skin trade in Dubai: South Asians no more like or respect Emiratis than Emiratis respect South Asians (there's actually a term Desis use called "Budoo/Budu": it means bedouin but carries connotations of stupidity, backwardness and ignorance), they're just in it for the money not unlike their Dubai clients who are in it for the bragging rights. Money for beauty, beauty for money.

I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all.

Persians and Iranians are not the same thing (Iranian is a nationality; there are various ethnic groups living in Iran and not all of them are ethnically Persian). I know it's confusing because many Iranians will refer to themselves as Persian simply because they can speak Farsi, but most of them have more in common with a Persian carpet or a Persian cat than an ethnic Persian person. And perhaps Iranians "are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf", but I've seen Iranians both in person and on TV, and let's just say that the reality doesn't quite live up to the hype.

besides everyone in the gulf knows about their plastic surgery since one of our popular and big accounts posted their before and after pictures but no one cares because they're so irrelevant. the only ppl who care about them or follow them are 12 year old kids.

Yeah, but as everyone in the gulf is also reputed to have plastic surgery, can Khaleeji women really judge? Or is it the quality of the work that's being criticized?

ever since you started writing in this thread all your posts have been too long and annoying. no one is here for a history lesson from you.. all your posts are you thinking you're educating people and history and geography. You don't need to tell me about iranians vs persians I know it already and still my point remains, they couldn't pass as neither persian nor any of the ethnic groups in iran. stop being a besserwisser. keep to the subject which is sonia and fyza.

[Roxx]

anyways am I the only one that doesn't think faeza looks a thing like kylie ? I suppose on Instagram she really begs the kylie look by posing like her and doing her makeup like her but I just don't see it. Sonia has similar features to kim k and tbf Sonia has always had a tiny nose but I reckon she could've had her fair share of fillers and jaw chiselling etc done.

Faeza/Fyza doesn't so much look like Kylie Jenner as she does an extraterrestrial wearing Kylie Jenner's face as a mask. Her face looked quite attractive in some of her pre-transformation photos (discounting the Disney-witch eyebrows, which are terrifying) so I can only hope that once the fillers and Botox subside, she can go back to looking normal, because at the moment, she brings to mind Edgar the Bug from Men In Black:

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Sonia just looks like what you'd end up with if you asked for Kim, but the only Kardashian available was Kourtney, so Kris had Kim's hair and makeup crew work their magic on Kourtney, and assumed you didn't notice. Well guess what, Kris? I NOTICED! AND NOW I WANT MY MONEY BACK!

Yep they have always wanted to be anything but Pakistani. I think they went with Arab because of the Muslim link and their Arabic names so it would be more believable? And they're are not the only Pakistani girls in Birmingham that dislike being Pakistani and want to be a more "exotic" race.

In all fairness, pretty much everyone wants to seems more exotic than they actually are.

I've seen it in other Asian girls too but yea is Sonia even an Arabic name, I've only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name.

Sonia is a Russian name: it's the Russian diminutive for Sophia (which is Greek for wisdom), but it's become quite popular outside of Russia (I've met so many people named 'Sonia', only one of whom is South Asian). If you've "only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name", you might need to get out more, but it's not the only Slavic name that has found popularity in Pakistan (Natasha is another one, inexplicably enough).

[Roxx]

ever since you started writing in this thread all your posts have been too long and annoying.

You bring much wisdom for one who has been on this forum so briefly, and posted so little; my reply to your post was 3 short paragraphs and a couple of sentences, to help clear up some of the misconceptions you were putting out there, but since I'm fluent in English, reading posts longer than a sentence or two isn't too difficult for me. I assumed it was the same with everyone else here, but it appears we have an exception.

no one is here for a history lesson from you.. all your posts are you thinking you're educating people and history and geography.

Well, I suppose someone had to as your parents and teachers don't seem to have made much of an impact. Seriously though: I'm not here to provide "history and geography" lessons to folks like you that can't be helped; I'm here for the gossip but I don't mind clearing up a misconception or two along the way.

You don't need to tell me about iranians vs persians I know it already and still my point remains, they couldn't pass as neither persian nor any of the ethnic groups in iran. stop being a besserwisser.

Sweet double-negative, Sis! And your attempt at speaking Deustch was the icing on the Black Forest Cake!

You literally wrote: "I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all". I can definitely see how "Persians or iranians" might be "known for their distinct beauty in the gulf", but if you think that Persians and Iranians are the same thing or that the Ali sisters couldn't pass themselves off as Iranian because of their looks (and not because of their inability to speak Farsi or lack of knowledge about Iranian culture/customs) that's a misconception that needs clearing (if not for you, then for other readers who can make it through a few paragraphs of English without breaking their brains). I've met Iranians in person and have seen plenty of them on TV, Iran is a large country with various ethnic groups and there are plenty of Iranians that have features and coloring similar to South Asians (but apparently, the Ali sisters much prefer the Armenian look nowadays). By your backwards logic, the Haque Twins "could never ever pass as" Iranians simply because "iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all":



Much like the Ali sisters, they may not look ethnically Persian, but that doesn't mean they don't look "Iranian". There's more to Iran and Iranians than what your tiny mind grasps.

keep to the subject which is sonia and fyza.

I'm here for the Ali sisters, not for your one-woman-flamewar. You're literally the one trying to derail the thread because I dared to inject a few facts into a couple of posts, with your "Aw, shucks, I hate readin'!" bull. Personally, I'd like to hear more about Soniaxpfizer and their Kardashian-kribbing ways, and less about your butt-hurt feelings, but you do you, boo.

[mia94]

I think If you've "only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name", you might need to get out more, but it's not the only Slavic name that has found popularity in Pakistan (Natasha is another one, inexplicably enough).[/quote]


Dw about me, I go out plenty. That's just what I personally have noticed about that name. If you disagree with someone's point just keep it civil, explain your pov and keep it moving. No need to throw shade or get personal, it's not that deep, it's just a gossip forum.


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[makeupcatcha]

ever since you started writing in this thread all your posts have been too long and annoying.

You bring much wisdom for one who has been on this forum so briefly, and posted so little; my reply to your post was 3 short paragraphs and a couple of sentences, to help clear up some of the misconceptions you were putting out there, but since I'm fluent in English, reading posts longer than a sentence or two isn't too difficult for me. I assumed it was the same with everyone else here, but it appears we have an exception.

no one is here for a history lesson from you.. all your posts are you thinking you're educating people and history and geography.

Well, I suppose someone had to as your parents and teachers don't seem to have made much of an impact. Seriously though: I'm not here to provide "history and geography" lessons to folks like you that can't be helped; I'm here for the gossip but I don't mind clearing up a misconception or two along the way.

You don't need to tell me about iranians vs persians I know it already and still my point remains, they couldn't pass as neither persian nor any of the ethnic groups in iran. stop being a besserwisser.

Sweet double-negative, Sis! And your attempt at speaking Deustch was the icing on the Black Forest Cake!

You literally wrote: "I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all". I can definitely see how "Persians or iranians" might be "known for their distinct beauty in the gulf", but if you think that Persians and Iranians are the same thing or that the Ali sisters couldn't pass themselves off as Iranian because of their looks (and not because of their inability to speak Farsi or lack of knowledge about Iranian culture/customs) that's a misconception that needs clearing (if not for you, then for other readers who can make it through a few paragraphs of English without breaking their brains). I've met Iranians in person and have seen plenty of them on TV, Iran is a large country with various ethnic groups and there are plenty of Iranians that have features and coloring similar to South Asians (but apparently, the Ali sisters much prefer the Armenian look nowadays). By your backwards logic, the Haque Twins "could never ever pass as" Iranians simply because "iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all":



Much like the Ali sisters, they may not look ethnically Persian, but that doesn't mean they don't look "Iranian". There's more to Iran and Iranians than what your tiny mind grasps.

keep to the subject which is sonia and fyza.

I'm here for the Ali sisters, not for your one-woman-flamewar. You're literally the one trying to derail the thread because I dared to inject a few facts into a couple of posts, with your "Aw, shucks, I hate readin'!" bull. Personally, I'd like to hear more about Soniaxpfizer and their Kardashian-kribbing ways, and less about your butt-hurt feelings, but you do you, boo.

girl you need to chill for real. the thread got a whole new page because your post was so long.. ''3 short paragraphs'' LOL

[makeupcatcha]

I think If you've "only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name", you might need to get out more, but it's not the only Slavic name that has found popularity in Pakistan (Natasha is another one, inexplicably enough).

Dw about me, I go out plenty. That's just what I personally have noticed about that name. If you disagree with someone's point just keep it civil, explain your pov and keep it moving. No need to throw shade or get personal, it's not that deep, it's just a gossip forum.


lmao that rox girl has serious issues. she thinks her own personal opinions are facts. i think she's the one that needs to get out more. She killed the whole threads vibe


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[mia94]

I think If you've "only ever met Indian and Pakistani girls with that name", you might need to get out more, but it's not the only Slavic name that has found popularity in Pakistan (Natasha is another one, inexplicably enough).

Dw about me, I go out plenty. That's just what I personally have noticed about that name. If you disagree with someone's point just keep it civil, explain your pov and keep it moving. No need to throw shade or get personal, it's not that deep, it's just a gossip forum.


lmao that rox girl has serious issues. she thinks her own personal opinions are facts. i think she's the one that needs to get out more. She killed the whole threads vibe


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Trusssss me , I agree with you. She takes everything way too seriously. And whenever anyone says anything she goes off on one insulting them, like calm down please it's not like you know them personally and bottom line, no one here cares because to most of us it ain't that deep your opinions are not facts and you do not know it all either

Anyway guys I hate straying from the topic so apologies for that... back to Faeza and Sonia


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[Roxx]

girl you need to chill for real. the thread got a whole new page because your post was so long.. ''3 short paragraphs'' LOL

Probably because I added pics (since you seem to struggle with having to read). Also don't laugh so hard, gurl: if your stitches burst, you'll be back at the clinic, demanding a refund (and as Fyza's face can attest: plastic surgeons don't give out refunds).

But yeah (jokes aside) I'm really only here for the Soniaxfyza/Dubai gossip, not for the tag-team flame-war you and Madting69 are trying to start, so let's all just put eachother on "ignore mode" and get back to Soniaxfyza tea instead of the cozy little circle-jerk you two seem to be enjoying.

[6sideting]

Ok guys,
So what I found on the uk birth records I think are Sonia and FAEZA'S. The only thing is that both have 'Shahzad' as a middle name can anyone verify this?
It also stated that both were born in Birmingham UK and the DOB seems to be accurate.

Loool faeza claims her middle name is sherazad and for a while she had it written in her insta in Turkish lmao what a beg. Sonia claims her middle name is Yasmin and the mum is also supposedly called Yasmin but who knows with these two whYs true. It's probs the correct birth certificates

Arabs don't even do middle names. Well maybe it's different with Christian Arabs but I doubt it and either way they're Muslim. Your middle name, if you have one, is your father's+grandfather's+great grandfather's first names. Unless their parents are that westernized.

[6sideting]

Excuse me but they chose to move to dubai/kuwait knowing how arabs view pakistani / south asian people so them lying about being arab just because of how they are treated in the gulf makes them even more disgusting because it means they agree with it instead of standing up for their race and changing peoples views. It has nothing to do with how arabs treat south asians it's simply because they're ashamed of being pakistani no matter how pakistanis are treated or viewed in whatever country. I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all. besides everyone in the gulf knows about their plastic surgery since one of our popular and big accounts posted their before and after pictures but no one cares because they're so irrelevant. the only ppl who care about them or follow them are 12 year old kids.

I disagree. There's beautiful and ugly in every ethnicity. Iran is right next to Afghanistan, which has ethnic Persians, which is then right next to Pakistan. It'd be much easier to convince everyone they're just unfortunate looking Persians than it is to convince everyone you're an Arab. ESPECIALLY Iraqi.

Arabs are semites after all. We have semitic features. No matter how light or dark our skin is we have something semitic about us which these girls just don't.

And shami/mashriqi is the hardest to pull off. There's something so distinct about our look. Before I even knew anything about them I knew they couldn't be Iraqi. Bottom line is Persian or at least Iranian or even Afghan would have been easier for them to pull off.

[Mocha88]

the majority of any country people are actually not that attactive so can we stop disscussing about what persians and arabs and pakis names are or what they look like...the point wasn't to justify fyzas delusions. I hope this thread gets back on track

[GulfBaby_]

Oh my goodness I can not with this two! I'm new here by the way, and ever since last year around December is when I came across these girls. I followed them on Snapchat and thought they seemed sweet and genuine until they went on rants and claims that they didn't have surgery, but looked just like Kim , and then lying to Vogue Arabia and all these companies about their ethnicity. I knew something wasn't right about their Arab and Turkish claim because they just don't at all look anything like us middle eastern which is perfectly fine everyone's beautiful. But the thing that truly irritates me is these girls are respected by so many women for their work but they're not honest to their fans and play the victim role all the time, knowing they're deceiving them, writing in Arabic on Snapchat, truly does bug me. Also their family knows that they makes these lies because someone gave me a memebers instagram but there's nothing they can do about these two grown adults. I just believe the truth will all unfold on their YouTube but they'll still deny until people come do their research.

[GulfBaby_]

Also I was using my Boutiqaat app and noticed they're no longer on there so there most be a reason. A couple of Instagram pages have exposed them, one popular fashion page did and had people in the comments in disbelief and some people even tagged some of their "friends" earlier this year. So the tea is getting spilled, especially on Twitter and @RoastKardashian

[makeupcatcha]

Excuse me but they chose to move to dubai/kuwait knowing how arabs view pakistani / south asian people so them lying about being arab just because of how they are treated in the gulf makes them even more disgusting because it means they agree with it instead of standing up for their race and changing peoples views. It has nothing to do with how arabs treat south asians it's simply because they're ashamed of being pakistani no matter how pakistanis are treated or viewed in whatever country. I'm from kuwait and they could never ever pass as persians. Persians or iranians are known for their distinct beauty in the gulf and they don't look persian at all. besides everyone in the gulf knows about their plastic surgery since one of our popular and big accounts posted their before and after pictures but no one cares because they're so irrelevant. the only ppl who care about them or follow them are 12 year old kids.

I disagree. There's beautiful and ugly in every ethnicity. Iran is right next to Afghanistan, which has ethnic Persians, which is then right next to Pakistan. It'd be much easier to convince everyone they're just unfortunate looking Persians than it is to convince everyone you're an Arab. ESPECIALLY Iraqi.

Arabs are semites after all. We have semitic features. No matter how light or dark our skin is we have something semitic about us which these girls just don't.

And shami/mashriqi is the hardest to pull off. There's something so distinct about our look. Before I even knew anything about them I knew they couldn't be Iraqi. Bottom line is Persian or at least Iranian or even Afghan would have been easier for them to pull off.

No it wouldn't have been easier. They could actually pass for iraqi before passing as iranian and heres why, iraqi girls don't have any typical features iraq has all kinds of looking people. If you're from Najd it's common to have fair skin and green eyes, if you're from the south you could be dark. iraqis all look so different from each other and it's almost impossible to tell who is iraqi or not. Persians are caucasian originally unlike afghans and pakistanis so to any middle eastern, they wouldn't look persian. Lets argue they could look iranian from any of the non persian ethnic groups in iran, even though it would be possible i personally wouldn't buy it. they look pakistani to me and all my friends before we even knew the truth about their origin. that's just what me and my friends (who are iranian and iraqis) have discussed and observed. The eyes are what tells them apart from iranians and iraqis.

[makeupcatcha]

Also I was using my Boutiqaat app and noticed they're no longer on there so there most be a reason. A couple of Instagram pages have exposed them, one popular fashion page did and had people in the comments in disbelief and some people even tagged some of their "friends" earlier this year. So the tea is getting spilled, especially on Twitter and @RoastKardashian

drop the accounts girl (instagram)