I haven't seen the episodes, but I'm not surprised that her Let's Learn Japanese videos turned out to be offensive. I listened to a couple of episodes of her podcast with Will and she totally has the mentality of like Japan being a weird quirky anime land that seemed to totally stereotype the place and the people that live there.fictionist wrote:I know! But apparently she took down her "Let's learn japanese" videos, including the one that was suppose to come out today. I'm kind of glad she did because the first one was so offense and lots of her viewers were calling her out on it.wheein wrote:WHAT ON EARTH is she wearing in the new ''Let's learn Japanese'' !?!?!?
Unfortunately she took down the second video before I saw so I didnt see the damage down. But I guess if she had to delete them both I guess it was just a teribble two episodes. The second episode was only up for a couple of hours before she deleted it too.... says a lot
I dont know what arden was thinking. She apparently lost a lot of fans from it. But her and her guest Lana were so awkward and arden was pretty rude to her as well.
Does anyone know where I can find the second episode?
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I feel like a lot of misinformed people would think like that. But the way she introduce the series was poorly executed.eatincrackers wrote:I haven't seen the episodes, but I'm not surprised that her Let's Learn Japanese videos turned out to be offensive. I listened to a couple of episodes of her podcast with Will and she totally has the mentality of like Japan being a weird quirky anime land that seemed to totally stereotype the place and the people that live there.fictionist wrote:I know! But apparently she took down her "Let's learn japanese" videos, including the one that was suppose to come out today. I'm kind of glad she did because the first one was so offense and lots of her viewers were calling her out on it.wheein wrote:WHAT ON EARTH is she wearing in the new ''Let's learn Japanese'' !?!?!?
Unfortunately she took down the second video before I saw so I didnt see the damage down. But I guess if she had to delete them both I guess it was just a teribble two episodes. The second episode was only up for a couple of hours before she deleted it too.... says a lot
I dont know what arden was thinking. She apparently lost a lot of fans from it. But her and her guest Lana were so awkward and arden was pretty rude to her as well.
Does anyone know where I can find the second episode?
First, the topics she discussed were very stereotypical things of japan: chibis, anime, and the whole "dishonor on you and your family." But the most offensive thing she she did was putting the Rising Sun flag as her intro background. A lot of commenters were asking her to remove it and for her to apologize.
The cohost (or guest?), Lana, is half Japanese and arden made a remark/disclaimer saying " to expect that 50% of what lana says is correct and the other half isnt. "
Overall it was just a mess. At the end she even said that the 2nd episode was going to be about "sex." What does sex have to do with Japan? ???
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It's a pity though in a way. I mean..yes, Let's learn Japanese was a fail but it actually looked like she (or whoever produced it) put quite some effort into it. But it just seemed so forced. If she would have worked on some good videos instead, some things that represent her, idk, even vlogs.
I wonder if she will address the situation.
I wonder if she will address the situation.
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I was thinking the same thing! As you have mentioned, she was not the only one putting work. There seemed like there was a large effort put in it from others...As in the animation/drawing, production, studio space, and so forth. And i hope she addresses the problem as those other peoples work and time is being removed. It also seems a few fans are already asking her why she removed the videos and have yet to have an answer. I hope she apologizes for participating and admits how insensitive the video was.wheein wrote:It's a pity though in a way. I mean..yes, Let's learn Japanese was a fail but it actually looked like she (or whoever produced it) put quite some effort into it. But it just seemed so forced. If she would have worked on some good videos instead, some things that represent her, idk, even vlogs.
I wonder if she will address the situation.
And agreed with the vlogs! She honestly could of done stuff on the studio to at least show her life a bit. It would also get rid of the excuse of being "too busy" to film actual vids all the time. It seems it would save her a lot time and effort...
She's been losing a lot of subscribers from this. I really hope she doesnt ignore how the series turned out to be a flop and still dish out sponsored/forced videos like nothing happened.
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Update;fictionist wrote:I was thinking the same thing! As you have mentioned, she was not the only one putting work. There seemed like there was a large effort put in it from others...As in the animation/drawing, production, studio space, and so forth. And i hope she addresses the problem as those other peoples work and time is being removed. It also seems a few fans are already asking her why she removed the videos and have yet to have an answer. I hope she apologizes for participating and admits how insensitive the video was.wheein wrote:It's a pity though in a way. I mean..yes, Let's learn Japanese was a fail but it actually looked like she (or whoever produced it) put quite some effort into it. But it just seemed so forced. If she would have worked on some good videos instead, some things that represent her, idk, even vlogs.
I wonder if she will address the situation.
And agreed with the vlogs! She honestly could of done stuff on the studio to at least show her life a bit. It would also get rid of the excuse of being "too busy" to film actual vids all the time. It seems it would save her a lot time and effort...
She's been losing a lot of subscribers from this. I really hope she doesnt ignore how the series turned out to be a flop and still dish out sponsored/forced videos like nothing happened.
well turns out I was right. It seems that she took it off because it got so much hate
https://ibb.co/fXpDGk (her youtube response)
Just kind of wish she'd own up to it and apologize. It seems she tried to keep her subscribers and happened to make a book review vid too? Idk, I think how its funny that she only uploads a decent video when her channel is going to shit
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She doesn't admit the problem though, just "insane hate" towards "something new".
Interesting because this wasn't a solo Arden venture. She was filming this last year as a project with another production company. I was actually surprised when it went up on her channel because she made it out like it was a job she was hired for, not content she was herself creating.
Must've lost everyone involved a lot of money.
Interesting because this wasn't a solo Arden venture. She was filming this last year as a project with another production company. I was actually surprised when it went up on her channel because she made it out like it was a job she was hired for, not content she was herself creating.
Must've lost everyone involved a lot of money.
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I swear the music she has in her new video makes it look like a TV ad or something. You know those kind of ads where people buy things like, i don't know, new pillows and they say that it was life changing and stuff. It's the exact same vibe.
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My thoughts exactly! She is in denial. She isn't admiting that it was the show content itself and the information she used as a host that offended people. I feel as though people didn't mind the new content but just how it was portrayed. I honestly didn't mind the idea of the show (more like skeptical of it) and thought it was interesting when she announced it. I just think she needs to admit that it wasnt written (if scripted) correctly and that her participation with the choices made were wrong.Lamour88 wrote:She doesn't admit the problem though, just "insane hate" towards "something new".
Interesting because this wasn't a solo Arden venture. She was filming this last year as a project with another production company. I was actually surprised when it went up on her channel because she made it out like it was a job she was hired for, not content she was herself creating.
Must've lost everyone involved a lot of money.
Instead it seems like she is blaming fans for not "warming up" to these "new idea." I feel as though she expected her viewers to be completely fine with all her videos and eat it up and be happy. She is losing hundreds of followers for a reason and I just wish she addressed it.
Her stats yesterday, sunday, skyrocketed to -1000 estimated loss in subscribers. It must of been a bad video as her previous days only resulted in a below -100 subscriber lost.
https://ibb.co/iRuVCQ (statistics of her youtube channel in the past 30 days. She has also just bee losing followers for the past month or more. Website is called "SocialBlade" )
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Now that you mentioned it, it certainly does. I felt as though maybe she was trying to sell "Frankie." Kind of like her previous video where she talked about Glossier how after they started to sponsor her. I'm not sure what to believe in what she "likes" or if she is trying to get sponsored.wheein wrote:I swear the music she has in her new video makes it look like a TV ad or something. You know those kind of ads where people buy things like, i don't know, new pillows and they say that it was life changing and stuff. It's the exact same vibe.
I also think it's funny how she used the lolita book for her thumbnail. I don't know, it just reminds me of the whole "lolita" aesthetic she has been trying to pull off. There was no need for it in the thumbnail. Not sure why she used it exactly.
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did anyone save the let's learn japanese vids? i missed them rip
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The music is so distracting from the video, and it's the most interesting video she's posted in a while imo... I would've just loved to listen to her talk
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lol idk whether to be amused or saddened to say that she's really gone downhill. i really used to enjoy arden, even just a few months back, but even with this book video i can't take her seriously or genuine as she mispronounced "1Q84" (lol "i"q84). also not even a bit surprised that LLJ was a flop.
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It definitely seems that she was annoyed people didn't like the Japanese series and was blaming it on them not liking change rather than the content itself :/
The first video rubbed me the wrong way, but I just blamed it on the fact it was the first one. Although it just felt so... awkward? And I felt the editing could have removed quite a few of those unnecessarily awkward moments. Plus if it had had background music that might have made it more "show" like and removed a little more of the awkwardness too.
I managed to catch the second video and the number of times Arden mentioned tentacle porn >_> dear lord. I really liked the other hostess but she seemed so uncomfortable sometimes :'D Made me wonder about the set up, was it just a conversation between two people with just the topic agreed upon beforehand? Was there a script? Did Arden mention anything she'd be saying beforehand so as to avoid offending the co-host? I don't think so.
It just really seemed to lack direction?
I also didn't feel it was a very um, let's learn Japanese! type show O.o it was just a conversation and every now and then the co-host (I really can't remember her name gah) would mention how to say a certain word. Not fully transferable as one was like a couple's hotel or something. *Still can't get the image of the tentacle porn segment out of my head*
Or the eyeball licking, WHY DID ARDEN MENTION THAT!?!?
It was all just v "stereotypical" Japanese and I felt kind of offended for Japanese people D: If approached in a different way it could have been good, I welcome the fresh content.
For example:
- She could have had say 5 episodes on learning Japanese, the basics or stuff that would be v useful.
- Then the next episode could have been her organising a trip to Japan (With the co-host or without idc), she could have included stuff to look out for, the best deals etc.
- The next episode could have been a more typical Arden video, 'What's in my suitcase?" or "Travel Essentials" type thing.
- Then maybe 3 episodes showing Japan, with places tourists normally go to and some that they don't, maybe showing off the cuisine or just any other types of experiences.
- Then she could have 1 video where she's back at home and talks about her experiences.
BAM DONE. But that'd be a bit too much work, even though she's already expressed her interest in Japan
The first video rubbed me the wrong way, but I just blamed it on the fact it was the first one. Although it just felt so... awkward? And I felt the editing could have removed quite a few of those unnecessarily awkward moments. Plus if it had had background music that might have made it more "show" like and removed a little more of the awkwardness too.
I managed to catch the second video and the number of times Arden mentioned tentacle porn >_> dear lord. I really liked the other hostess but she seemed so uncomfortable sometimes :'D Made me wonder about the set up, was it just a conversation between two people with just the topic agreed upon beforehand? Was there a script? Did Arden mention anything she'd be saying beforehand so as to avoid offending the co-host? I don't think so.
It just really seemed to lack direction?
I also didn't feel it was a very um, let's learn Japanese! type show O.o it was just a conversation and every now and then the co-host (I really can't remember her name gah) would mention how to say a certain word. Not fully transferable as one was like a couple's hotel or something. *Still can't get the image of the tentacle porn segment out of my head*
Or the eyeball licking, WHY DID ARDEN MENTION THAT!?!?
It was all just v "stereotypical" Japanese and I felt kind of offended for Japanese people D: If approached in a different way it could have been good, I welcome the fresh content.
For example:
- She could have had say 5 episodes on learning Japanese, the basics or stuff that would be v useful.
- Then the next episode could have been her organising a trip to Japan (With the co-host or without idc), she could have included stuff to look out for, the best deals etc.
- The next episode could have been a more typical Arden video, 'What's in my suitcase?" or "Travel Essentials" type thing.
- Then maybe 3 episodes showing Japan, with places tourists normally go to and some that they don't, maybe showing off the cuisine or just any other types of experiences.
- Then she could have 1 video where she's back at home and talks about her experiences.
BAM DONE. But that'd be a bit too much work, even though she's already expressed her interest in Japan
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I don't understand why she low key tries to associate herself with ''Lolita'' When I look at her I don't see that in her at all. It just doesn't come naturally with her. She comes off as fake and trying too hard.
It's not like she even dresses in a Lolita style? Or dates guys a lot older than her? She really isn't the real deal. lol
I don't think this is her fantasy at all. She just thinks its ''edgy'' and ''trendy'' And perhaps Will is into that type of girl at the moment so she indulging him to keep him interested?
It's not like she even dresses in a Lolita style? Or dates guys a lot older than her? She really isn't the real deal. lol
I don't think this is her fantasy at all. She just thinks its ''edgy'' and ''trendy'' And perhaps Will is into that type of girl at the moment so she indulging him to keep him interested?
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I think it's kind of funny in her newer video "My Favorite Books Ever", she hadn't even finished How Not to Die and this is the second time that she has mentioned it in a video. It also seemed like she was just curating a list of books that she thought made her look like an "intellectual" rather than showing books she finished/enjoyed.
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Glad you gave a recap! I was not able to watch the second episode. Apparently japanese people are proud of the tentacle porn and they see it as a tradition (I could be wrong) and if that was the case I hoped she told us why and how. I hope she went into the history of it as it is a "LETS LEARN..."GoP1kachuGo wrote:
I managed to catch the second video and the number of times Arden mentioned tentacle porn >_> dear lord. I really liked the other hostess but she seemed so uncomfortable sometimes :'D Made me wonder about the set up, was it just a conversation between two people with just the topic agreed upon beforehand? Was there a script? Did Arden mention anything she'd be saying beforehand so as to avoid offending the co-host? I don't think so.
It just really seemed to lack direction?
I also didn't feel it was a very um, let's learn Japanese! type show O.o it was just a conversation and every now and then the co-host (I really can't remember her name gah) would mention how to say a certain word. Not fully transferable as one was like a couple's hotel or something. *Still can't get the image of the tentacle porn segment out of my head*
Or the eyeball licking, WHY DID ARDEN MENTION THAT!?!?
It was all just v "stereotypical" Japanese and I felt kind of offended for Japanese people D: If approached in a different way it could have been good, I welcome the fresh content.
For example:
- She could have had say 5 episodes on learning Japanese, the basics or stuff that would be v useful.
- Then the next episode could have been her organising a trip to Japan (With the co-host or without idc), she could have included stuff to look out for, the best deals etc.
- The next episode could have been a more typical Arden video, 'What's in my suitcase?" or "Travel Essentials" type thing.
- Then maybe 3 episodes showing Japan, with places tourists normally go to and some that they don't, maybe showing off the cuisine or just any other types of experiences.
- Then she could have 1 video where she's back at home and talks about her experiences.
BAM DONE. But that'd be a bit too much work, even though she's already expressed her interest in Japan
I feel as though the show was just a random conversation rather than educational or eyeopening. It feels as though they didnt really talk about what the video was going to cover and just based it on a word, and tried to connect random babble with it.
And seriously! She could of done episodes like that. I just wished she gave a history of japan in the intro. Try to ground it more.
I cant believe some of her viewers are blind to how offensive the video was. There are so many comments on her new video defending her saying people are spiteful because they want to see her fail. One comment said "I cant see why people hate any of ardens videos. They are perfect!"
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agreed. People even questioned why lolita was in the thumbnail... she didnt mentioned it as her favorite book in the video either. So why bother having it as the first thing you see? I honestly think she tried to make this video as fast as possible because of the negative reviews of LLJ and the HUGE loss of subscribers. So of course she would try to take the books that make her look so "intellectual" to gain back subscribers.eatincrackers wrote:I think it's kind of funny in her newer video "My Favorite Books Ever", she hadn't even finished How Not to Die and this is the second time that she has mentioned it in a video. It also seemed like she was just curating a list of books that she thought made her look like an "intellectual" rather than showing books she finished/enjoyed.
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This has been mentioned previously in the past pages. But I believe the people here have agreed (note me if I am wrong please) that arden believes she is this revolutionary "sex kitten." I feel as though her advices on sex in her youtube and book arent anything out of the norm but she tries to portray that she is this super experienced (like bdsm) and experimental person. And yes, the whole lolita thing is for Will.Tenebre wrote:I don't understand why she low key tries to associate herself with ''Lolita'' When I look at her I don't see that in her at all. It just doesn't come naturally with her. She comes off as fake and trying too hard.
It's not like she even dresses in a Lolita style? Or dates guys a lot older than her? She really isn't the real deal. lol
I don't think this is her fantasy at all. She just thinks its ''edgy'' and ''trendy'' And perhaps Will is into that type of girl at the moment so she indulging him to keep him interested?
I do believe she thinks it is edgy. A few of her insta stories and post have her in almost toddler estqe wear.
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^^^Notice how she never actually wears her toddler instagram outfits out in public though? It's all for show lol
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here are some from her insta! also note the captions I mean it isn't horrible like real toddler clothes lol. just the idea of itTenebre wrote:^^^Notice how she never actually wears her toddler instagram outfits out in public though? It's all for show lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKw0nVFgoKD ... =ardenrose
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWDd51bARyu ... =ardenrose
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHsrwkYg1tJ ... =ardenrose (this one isn't bad the caption is exactly what Tenebre said