Markiplier - Part 8

[Guest]

My heart goes out to those in brussel and have family members there. It really sucks living in a world that has to deal with these attacks.


Mark made it to 12 million tonight, and it looks like he is making the dog version of meow. It'll be interesting to see if this one goes as viral as meow did. And sucks that he hurt his knee, I know that hurts.

[MapleNia]

Offtopic: My heart goes out to those in Brussel and family members! I hope they are safe now and they will be able to recover

And yes! I was just coming online to say the exact thing KMS! Considering the picture on Twitter, I think that will be the special video for the 12 million milestone. I'm glad he is doing those kinds of videos, it's more cheerful! If this goes viral, I'm preparing myself to see it spread in my FB newsfeed.

I saw it on the RYC video about his knee; I don't know if it was acting but he was limping a bit. I know that it hurts... Some rest and that pad thing will surely help!

[M0nkeeButt2590]

Yeah I suspect a dog version of Meow coming soon, likely will be named either Woof, Bark, or possibly Borf since that's what he says Chica makes instead. Wonder if he'll have clips of Chica and Lego in there too?

It sucks he hurt his leg though. Hopefully that means he'll rest up for a while and doesn't do anything stupid like go rock climbing while injured. He's said that he's capable of climbing without his legs, but it's still a better idea to keep as much weight off of it as possible. And no heavy lifting, which includes Chica.

But congrats on the 12 million Mark. You earned it.

[Guest]

Yeah I suspect a dog version of Meow coming soon, likely will be named either Woof, Bark, or possibly Borf since that's what he says Chica makes instead. Wonder if he'll have clips of Chica and Lego in there too?

It sucks he hurt his leg though. Hopefully that means he'll rest up for a while and doesn't do anything stupid like go rock climbing while injured. He's said that he's capable of climbing without his legs, but it's still a better idea to keep as much weight off of it as possible. And no heavy lifting, which includes Chica.

But congrats on the 12 million Mark. You earned it.

Oh, Im sure Chica and Lego will be a part of the video:) and congrats to Mark. He has worked hard for it:)!!

[AquarianHorse]

I'd love to see a dog version of the meow video When I saw the meow video I was thinking, I hope he makes one with dogs, and you guys know I'm a huge sucker for dogs. Yes I love cats I just love dogs (and horses) more Tho I think I'd pick dogs over horses..shh don't tell...

Yeah hurt knees suck :/ I heard knee surgeries (Not saying he will get one, or he needs one, etc or anything-just in the topic of knees in general), suck and usually need more surgeries. He can climb without his legs? DAMN! That's awesome

Heh, when I watched the video I don't know if it happened for you guys but for recommended, YT Told me to watch the 6 million and 8 million reaction. I doubt Mark would see it but I was going to post a comment talking about how he cries a lot (Not in a mean way of course). I think he talked about how he cries a lot in the ear biscuit thing with Rhett and Link. It's good to know he's a sensitive guy, he just makes stupid moves sometimes but we all have. Worst than others.

I am not sure how I found out, I think someone on here said it or I saw it somewhere but I think I was a fan of Mark since FNAF came out and he was at 3 million subs then right? 12 million people...that is over whelming D: (Not to be a downer but like you said Monkeees some of those subs may have been abandoned, etc, and what not).

[Guest]

Yep, it was everything I expected Woof to be:)!!! Twas really cute, and love that he gives chica the "embarrassed by her father" role in the videos he makes with her.

[kei]

That was cute. Not really my style, but it doesn't have to be. He clearly had fun doing it, and that's all that really matters.

[acidhippie]

talking about MAC again, I'm not to happy about her account. I completely agree with her opinion, but she spreads the message in a hateful way. instead of telling the fans that it's disrespectful to treat mark like this, she just tells them they're weird and dumb. of course, the way the tumblr girls react is also very immature, but I think that her account causes a lot of trouble. it's better if she told the fans that they need to change their behavior out of respect for mark and that they are harassing him this way. explain them why what they're doing is wrong, don't just attack them. I myself have talked to some fans on instagram and told them why they need to stop sexaulizing mark, and most of them did. MAC just gives the movement (as I'm gonna call it) a bad name. if we could convince the tumblr fans that treating mark like this is not okay, they might even tell others and this way we could spread the message.

[AquarianHorse]

The woof video came out pretty cute

Yeah it would be nice if fans can chillax and stop treating Mark like an object, calling him daddy, etc and being all creepy and rude.

[Cupcake Warpaint]

talking about MAC again, I'm not to happy about her account. I completely agree with her opinion, but she spreads the message in a hateful way. instead of telling the fans that it's disrespectful to treat mark like this, she just tells them they're weird and dumb. of course, the way the tumblr girls react is also very immature, but I think that her account causes a lot of trouble. it's better if she told the fans that they need to change their behavior out of respect for mark and that they are harassing him this way. explain them why what they're doing is wrong, don't just attack them. I myself have talked to some fans on instagram and told them why they need to stop sexaulizing mark, and most of them did. MAC just gives the movement (as I'm gonna call it) a bad name. if we could convince the tumblr fans that treating mark like this is not okay, they might even tell others and this way we could spread the message.

THIS! I have huge problems with accounts such as MAC. They're just as rude and aggressive as the most deranged fangirl. Essentially Tumblr is a place where people can post what they like, no matter how offensive, invasive or downright dumb those posts can be. What gives MAC the right to call people out on that? Do they think they'll get head pats from Mark for being a white knight? It's reeks of self importance to me.

[kei]

THIS! I have huge problems with accounts such as MAC. They're just as rude and aggressive as the most deranged fangirl. Essentially Tumblr is a place where people can post what they like, no matter how offensive, invasive or downright dumb those posts can be.

Not exactly. Or at least, not entirely. I still find it interesting how Tumblrinas are busy calling MAC out when all that blog has done is point out the problematic areas of the fandom, the parts people would rather sweep under the rug as they pretend to be lights and rainbows. Those fans hear Mark praising the community at 12 million strong for doing great things, but aside from donating to charity (and I admit they've done their share as far as that's concerned, and they deserve to feel good about it) all they've really done is make NSFW art of him when he asked them not to and bully anyone who doesn't think like they do out of the whole fandom. Death threats are their go-to method of cyber bullying, and that is a major, major problem with the Markiplites. And the whole thing is, given Mark's message alone, it shouldn't be.

So in a way, yes, Tumblr is certainly free to post as much shit as they want, "no matter how offensive, invasive or downright dumb those posts can be", as you put it. But not without consequence. MAC's blog? That's a consequence. No one should expect to throw something into a public area without getting something back in return. A comment, a critique, a response of any sort. And the longer they use that excuse that they're "just kids who don't know better" as they continue making fanfic that would make a porn star laugh or Photoshopping Mark and Jack fucking each other, the less credibility that excuse has. Like I said, a consequence.

What gives MAC the right to call people out on that? Do they think they'll get head pats from Mark for being a white knight? It's reeks of self importance to me.

I don't know them personally so I won't claim to know why they're doing it, but I'd say a tumblr called "Markiplites are creepy" that points out shuploc's tracing and calling attention to a highly X-rated photoshop of Jack isn't looking for head pats.

[M0nkeeButt2590]

Concerning MAC, there are two moderators on MAC's blog, both of which have different ways of dealing with fans. And it's not like they are attacking anyone or promoting their supporters to swarm the fan who is objectifying Mark. A good chunk of posts recently have been positive like give notice to smaller artists, rally those with health issues to seek help, or promote charity. And in a few cases when a fan is having a tough time, MAC has stepped up and talked to them, gave them support and helped them during their time of need.

Plus a few of the more vocal and violent fans who have been trying to rally hate against the "hate blog" they have tried to reach out to and speak with, as have their supporters. Some have not been willing to listen like the one who called MAC Hitler, but others have listened and understand their mistakes.

So it isn't all negativity on there and MAC's blog has helped people in various ways, along with giving a voice to fans who see the problems within the fandom but were too afraid of the bullies to speak up about it.

[Cupcake Warpaint]

all they've really done is make NSFW art of him when he asked them not to and bully anyone who doesn't think like they do out of the whole fandom. Death threats are their go-to method of cyber bullying, and that is a major, major problem with the Markiplites. And the whole thing is, given Mark's message alone, it shouldn't be.

So they behave like every other fandom that exists on Tumblr. I don't justify this behaviour at all, but the reality of fandom life is that's messy. A group of people, a lot of whom are young and immature, all clamouring to be seen and heard by 'Senpai' and with the added bonus of the anonymity of it being online. It's a powder keg waiting to go off. Blogs like MAC (even the name of the blog is both inflammatory and smug) will gleefully light that touch paper, and that's what annoys me.

So in a way, yes, Tumblr is certainly free to post as much shit as they want, "no matter how offensive, invasive or downright dumb those posts can be", as you put it. But not without consequence. MAC's blog? That's a consequence. No one should expect to throw something into a public area without getting something back in return. A comment, a critique, a response of any sort. And the longer they use that excuse that they're "just kids who don't know better" as they continue making fanfic that would make a porn star laugh or Photoshopping Mark and Jack fucking each other, the less credibility that excuse has. Like I said, a consequence.

And my oh my did the consequence of the fandoms actions quickly sink to their level. MAC had an opportunity to raise the discourse, but mud slinging is so much more fun, and depressingly predictable for such blogs of this ilk. How you can call out the behaviour of others when you engaging in the same level of idiocy is beyond me? I suppose you have to admire the brass neck of the people involved with MAC at least.

Speaking of which, when I first saw MAC I felt that it was started by someone from this thread. It calls out the same things that people here do, has the same level of annoyance at the fandom, and is heavily praised here whilst only a small section of the Tumblr fandom seem to know or care about it. If any of you are involved in it, please up your game. It's very easy to become the thing you hate, and nobody likes a bully.

[acidhippie]

MAC needs to change the way she talks to the tumblrinas. she's just spreading hate, and barely spreading the message. if we put out polite posts on tumblr and talk to the fangirls individually, we'd reach an audience who listen much more easy. keep in mind that these tumblrinas are just 14 year old sexually confused girls. they've just hit puberty and are starting to feel sexual attracting for the first time, of course they are going to express it online, especially when they notice there are more of them. there is no need to attack them like they attack us. we are more mature and should behave in a better way. mark hates drama, I do not think that if he would know about MAC that he would like her account. the message is good, - stop sexualizing mark and treat him with respect - but the way it's being spread right now is just dissapionting. we need to educate these girls and not attack them. we are behaving just like the tumblr girls are while talking about them like they're the devil or something- it's hypocritical. we need to spread this message in a loving way, not in a hateful way, like MAC is doing. MAC sends hate to the tumblrinas, the tumblrinas send hate back, MAC sends hate back at them again, it's looking like a war right now. be mature and treat the fangirls with respect, just like you wish they respect you and mark.

[kei]

So they behave like every other fandom that exists on Tumblr. I don't justify this behaviour at all, but the reality of fandom life is that's messy. A group of people, a lot of whom are young and immature, all clamouring to be seen and heard by 'Senpai' and with the added bonus of the anonymity of it being online. It's a powder keg waiting to go off. Blogs like MAC (even the name of the blog is both inflammatory and smug) will gleefully light that touch paper, and that's what annoys me.

Just because "every fandom is like that" doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable, though. Especially since Mark's own fandom enjoys pretending they're on a higher pedestal than every other fandom. Does the fact "everyone does it" mean it's okay to let things go even if it demeans the very person they claim to appreciate?

And my oh my did the consequence of the fandoms actions quickly sink to their level. MAC had an opportunity to raise the discourse, but mud slinging is so much more fun, and depressingly predictable for such blogs of this ilk. How you can call out the behaviour of others when you engaging in the same level of idiocy is beyond me? I suppose you have to admire the brass neck of the people involved with MAC at least.

They're really not, though. MAC is pointing out some idiotic things that others have said or done, yes, and I don't think anyone here is saying they agree 100% with what's said on the blog (or maybe they are, I won't claim to speak for everyone) but it's more that someone is finally reminding the others in the fandom "no, sexual fetishization is not okay" that GG seems to be celebrating. It may not be in exactly the fashion you would go with, but in that case, I guess everybody is welcome to make their own blog about Mark's fandom.

Speaking of which, when I first saw MAC I felt that it was started by someone from this thread. It calls out the same things that people here do, has the same level of annoyance at the fandom, and is heavily praised here whilst only a small section of the Tumblr fandom seem to know or care about it. If any of you are involved in it, please up your game. It's very easy to become the thing you hate, and nobody likes a bully.

Heavily praised? Again, I'm not sure about that. There seems to be more of a general sense of relief that someone is taking the time to actually get the message out there that objectification is not okay, regardless of gender or status. They even came down on Felix and Ken for grabbing Jack's ass, which surprised me, but it's not like that POV is without merit. Here on GG there hasn't really been a flurry of discussion on the blog itself outside a few posts here and there, though maybe it seems like it since we're always discussing the subjects MAC is pointing out. Is it really that difficult to believe someone just got fed up with a fandom who claims to be all sunshine and lollipops yet have harassed Janet Varney for standing next to the man and insist that Mark and Jack are just repressing their sexual feelings for each other when both have repeatedly mentioned they aren't gay?

[Cupcake Warpaint]

I've really nothing more to add than I've said in my previous posts. Like acidhippie said, I can see what the purpose of MAC is, but they've falling way short of their target. It's pretty disappointing tbh.

[kei]

I've really nothing more to add than I've said in my previous posts. Like acidhippie said, I can see what the purpose of MAC is, but they've falling way short of their target. It's pretty disappointing tbh.

No worries. Like I said before, I appreciate you bringing a different perspective to these discussions. I may not agree with everything that's said, but it can be refreshing to discuss things from different points of view.

[M0nkeeButt2590]

Unfortunately in some cases, these fans are not willing to listen regardless of how you present it.

Back last year a fan had taken an Instagram video of Mark off of one of his step-nieces' account. One of our members politely spoke to the fan privately, explaining why it was wrong to have that video up on her account as it was dragging his family into the spotlight and taking a private moment away from them. The fan in question was very rude, insisting that she had a right to it and there was no reason why she should take it down. Eventually it was removed, but it was a fight to do so and the girl was not happy over it.

Remember the Facebook picture of Mark and KWP from the set of the new Ninja Sex Party music video? People were trying to rationally talk to some of the fans objectifying the boys, and the response was victim blaming and absolute justification for their actions.

And I have seen this before on Tumblr as well, or when Monodes tried to talk to the Markiplier's dick group on Twitter.

Sometimes rational discussion isn't enough if the person is unwilling to listen, and it is very prevalent with a major chunk of Mark's fans these days.

Do I agree with everything MAC has said? No. But the fact that so many who have been bullied by these fans' holier-than-thou hypocritical attitude finally have someone there willing to give them a voice is more than they had before, so I give them props for that.

And considering they are still promoting charity and smaller fanartists and giving support to fans struggling, I doubt that their in-game is to be rude and aggressive and mud-sling for fun while looking for head-pats from Mark. If anything they're the ones risking backlash just for simply having a dissenting opinion.

[Striker693]

Just watched the woof video... admittedly I didn't find it all that funny, but I didn't find the cat one funny either. That being said it's clever how he puts his mouth on top of vid clips of the animals like that, so from a technical standpoint I liked it. Also he has perfect teeth, I spent years in orthodontic surgery and mine still never came out looking as good as his! Lucky devil.

Whilst we're on the subject of humour etc, my friend said something I found kinda interesting earlier. Basically he'd been catching up on Mark's vids since he'd not seen any of his more recent content, and after watching quite a few of his newer vids in bulk he's come to the conclusion that the current company Mark's keeping (I assume he meant Ryan and Matt) seems to have had an affect on his sense of humour and general comedic timing etc, his theory/opinion is that being around them 24/7 has reduced his comedic ability. I found it quite surprising that someone outside of the fandom that only watches his stuff on occasion not only noticed it but pinpointed it changing ever since he started living with Matt and Ryan. Personally I wouldn't want to say that it's reduced his ability because humour is subjective and what one person may find hilarious another will find rubbish, but what I will say is that given how much he's gotten into improv and comedy like Who's Line Is It Anyway etc I assumed that his humour would begin to lean more towards a "think fast/smart mouth/answer to everything" style if it was going to change at all, but instead it seems to have done the complete opposite LOL! I also thought that if anyone's sense of humour was going to inspire/rub off onto him it would Arin's from Gamer Grumps.

[M0nkeeButt2590]

Just watched the woof video... admittedly I didn't find it all that funny, but I didn't find the cat one funny either. That being said it's clever how he puts his mouth on top of vid clips of the animals like that, so from a technical standpoint I liked it. Also he has perfect teeth, I spent years in orthodontic surgery and mine still never came out looking as good as his! Lucky devil.

Whilst we're on the subject of humour etc, my friend said something I found kinda interesting earlier. Basically he'd been catching up on Mark's vids since he'd not seen any of his more recent content, and after watching quite a few of his newer vids in bulk he's come to the conclusion that the current company Mark's keeping (I assume he meant Ryan and Matt) seems to have had an affect on his sense of humour and general comedic timing etc, his theory/opinion is that being around them 24/7 has reduced his comedic ability.

I found it quite surprising that someone outside of the fandom that only watches his stuff on occasion not only noticed it but pinpointed it changing ever since he started living with Matt and Ryan. Personally I wouldn't want to say that it's reduced his ability because humour is subjective and what one person may find hilarious another will find rubbish, but what I will say is that given how much he's gotten into improv and comedy like Who's Line Is It Anyway etc I assumed that his humour would begin to lean more towards a "think fast/smart mouth/answer to everything" style if it was going to change at all, but instead it seems to have gone the complete opposite LOL! I also thought that if anyone's sense of humour was going to inspire/rub off onto him it would Arin's from Gamer Grumps.

Sometimes you do act a different way around certain people, like I doubt the way you talk to your best friend is the same way you talk to your mother. Likely with Mark he adapts to his surroundings and acts differently, even comedic-wise, depending on the company he keeps.

His mannerisms and humor was different around Wade during his LA visit, same thing with Jack's visit. And even when he was working in the Grumps Office, his humor seemed more leaning towards their brand of comedy. Probably because he's always around Ryan and Matt these days, he's adapted more to their style.

Edit: Also I agree that I didn't find Woof all that funny. I thought it was cute, especially with Chica's appearance, but it didn't tickle my funny bone. With Meow I laughed at a few parts, but I grew desensitized to it after the second viewing. But if he had fun making it, that's all that matters.