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illegal_mind wrote:usually when i see people that are verified tweeting that type of fake deep vague inspirational stuff is when they're not the ones running their twitter accounts and it's just some poorly paid intern copy pasting random shit they find online, just so they can say the account is active
...Ahhh..

There was a discussion on reddit because Phil deleted a tweet, people pretty much agreed that his research team (or some of them) have access to his twitter.

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rai1234 wrote:[tweet][/tweet]

~deep~. How long before this is on a Defranco Elite poster?
Ya... that reads like something you would have found on one of my old xanga accounts. I was deeper+wiser than the other kids. ;) :D

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Merpedy wrote:
illegal_mind wrote:usually when i see people that are verified tweeting that type of fake deep vague inspirational stuff is when they're not the ones running their twitter accounts and it's just some poorly paid intern copy pasting random shit they find online, just so they can say the account is active
...Ahhh..

There was a discussion on reddit because Phil deleted a tweet, people pretty much agreed that his research team (or some of them) have access to his twitter.
only just started and he's already been caught on having someone else running his social media.
if his team is running his account like this already, it won't be long until his fans start seeing the disconnection.
rupaul's twitter account is also filled with inspirational phrases, the reason people know it's all bs and not honest in the slightest is because if you search for one of the phrases, you'll find the same tweet or nearly identical in rupaul's account, from months or maybe years prior.
what it does is it makes the fans not feel any sort of relatable connection with you, because it's not even you tweeting out that fake deep bs. and for a regular celebrity, that's fine, but a youtuber needs to have that connection with their audience, it's what keeps them around
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illegal_mind wrote:what it does is it makes the fans not feel any sort of relatable connection with you, because it's not even you tweeting out that fake deep bs. and for a regular celebrity, that's fine, but a youtuber needs to have that connection with their audience, it's what keeps them around
Well that's where Defranco Elite ( :tu: :tu: ) and the direct connection to Phil that becomes available via the DeFranco Elite Discord Server( :tu: :tu: ) will come in I'm sure.

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prettyjay wrote:
illegal_mind wrote:what it does is it makes the fans not feel any sort of relatable connection with you, because it's not even you tweeting out that fake deep bs. and for a regular celebrity, that's fine, but a youtuber needs to have that connection with their audience, it's what keeps them around
Well that's where Defranco Elite ( :tu: :tu: ) and the direct connection to Phil that becomes available via the DeFranco Elite Discord Server( :tu: :tu: ) will come in I'm sure.
i've never used discord, have no idea how it works. is it just like a private text chatroom?
does anyone know how regularly phil's there? is there a way that proves it's actually him and not someone from his team?
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illegal_mind wrote:
prettyjay wrote:
illegal_mind wrote:what it does is it makes the fans not feel any sort of relatable connection with you, because it's not even you tweeting out that fake deep bs. and for a regular celebrity, that's fine, but a youtuber needs to have that connection with their audience, it's what keeps them around
Well that's where Defranco Elite ( :tu: :tu: ) and the direct connection to Phil that becomes available via the DeFranco Elite Discord Server( :tu: :tu: ) will come in I'm sure.
i've never used discord, have no idea how it works. is it just like a private text chatroom?
does anyone know how regularly phil's there? is there a way that proves it's actually him and not someone from his team?
Discord has text chat, voice chat, and video chat. You can create different channels under each type of chat and give access to the channels based on whether supporters have payed a certain amount on Patreon.

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^ This is generally how it goes if you don't pay at least $10 a month. If you pay more, it's things like this...

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Basically Phil playing video games with and getting story ideas from a bunch of people who look like school shooters.

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prettyjay wrote:
illegal_mind wrote:
prettyjay wrote:
illegal_mind wrote:what it does is it makes the fans not feel any sort of relatable connection with you, because it's not even you tweeting out that fake deep bs. and for a regular celebrity, that's fine, but a youtuber needs to have that connection with their audience, it's what keeps them around
Well that's where Defranco Elite ( :tu: :tu: ) and the direct connection to Phil that becomes available via the DeFranco Elite Discord Server( :tu: :tu: ) will come in I'm sure.
i've never used discord, have no idea how it works. is it just like a private text chatroom?
does anyone know how regularly phil's there? is there a way that proves it's actually him and not someone from his team?
Discord has text chat, voice chat, and video chat. You can create different channels under each type of chat and give access to the channels based on whether supporters have payed a certain amount on Patreon.

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^ This is generally how it goes if you don't pay at least $10 a month. If you pay more, it's things like this...

[youtube][/youtube]

Basically Phil playing video games with and getting story ideas from a bunch of people who look like school shooters.
HOLD UP. People are PAYING for a freaking NEWS NETWORK to watch him PLAY VIDEO GAMES???? Is this some sort of joke? Is this what he's "so busy" with in the vlogs?!

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So the two people he mentioned that screwed him over for money does anyone know who they are ? I know one is Toby turner but who is the other one ?

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I find myself funny wrote:So the two people he mentioned that screwed him over for money does anyone know who they are ? I know one is Toby turner but who is the other one ?
I think one of them is Ross Everett (I'm like 99% sure about this) and the other is someone at Maker. He and Lindsay always talk about how screwed over he got from the sale and never got his share.

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Watching some of the old sourcefed videos it sometimes came across that Phil looked down on Ross Everett and didn't respect or especially like him, so I was really surprised to find out that he was meant to be Phil's best man? I get that Phil was apparently hurt by things Ross said to others, but in all honesty only a narcissist would consider that kind of one-sided relationship to be a genuine friendship. I think Phil was in the friendship for the wrong reasons(liked feeling superior and getting his ass kissed) just as much as Ross was.

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prettyjay wrote:Watching some of the old sourcefed videos it sometimes came across that Phil looked down on Ross Everett and didn't respect or especially like him, so I was really surprised to find out that he was meant to be Phil's best man? I get that Phil was apparently hurt by things Ross said to others, but in all honesty only a narcissist would consider that kind of one-sided relationship to be a genuine friendship. I think Phil was in the friendship for the wrong reasons(liked feeling superior and getting his ass kissed) just as much as Ross was.
It's also interesting that a lot of other SF people remained friends with Ross after what happened, which shows that we don't know both sides of the story. It's also really weird to me that he made him his best man.

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Did anyone else catch the premiere of the networks new news show?

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^ It's the complete opposite of the kind of content that Phil gave the impression he would be producing. Kind of like an even more amateur tabletalk with some buzzfeed thrown in. I honestly thought it was a joke release to kind of poke fun at everyone with low expectations.

Dani seems cool and it was introduced as being one of the 'lighter' news shows that will be on the network, but... why is the video of him announcing the network and patreon elite ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7frDFkW05k ) a million times more professional looking and well thought out than the actual content he's putting out? So far the donations seem to be basically going towards paying people to hang out with Phil rather than anything of quality.

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prettyjay wrote:Did anyone else catch the premiere of the networks new news show?

[youtube]<a class="vglnk" href="[/youtube" rel="nofollow"><span>https</span><span>://</span><span>www</span><span>.</span><span>youtube</span><span>.</span><span>com</span><span>/</span><span>watch</span><span>?</span><span>v</span><span>=</span><span>zcqFQs35yZo</span><span>[/</span><span>youtube</span></a>]

^ It's the complete opposite of the kind of content that Phil gave the impression he would be producing. Kind of like an even more amateur tabletalk with some buzzfeed thrown in. I honestly thought it was a joke release to kind of poke fun at everyone with low expectations.

Dani seems cool and it was introduced as being one of the 'lighter' news shows that will be on the network, but... why is the video of him announcing the network and patreon elite ( [url]<a class="vglnk" href="[/url" rel="nofollow"><span>https</span><span>://</span><span>www</span><span>.</span><span>youtube</span><span>.</span><span>com</span><span>/</span><span>watch</span><span>?</span><span>v</span><span>=</span><span>b7frDFkW05k</span><span>[/</span><span>url</span></a>] ) a million times more professional looking and well thought out than the actual content he's putting out? So far the donations seem to be basically going towards paying people to hang out with Phil rather than anything of quality.
You have got to be kidding me. Again, PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THIS? I'm only like 5 minutes in but what the actual fuck? This is what he wants to fight CNN and other MSM with? You never see TYT pulling any of this. Also, this is such an awful set, audio was bad, terrible logo and song...like wtf. Seriously. I wouldn't be this angry if it's something he was doing and wasn't putting out exclusively to people who are donating and expecting quality news, not this. Should have said this will be a Sourcefed 2.0, not a "news network".

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I think as he starts going with this project and the quality doesn't improve people (those mature) will stop donating.

That being said, Phil won't care because half of his fanbase still see him as some sort of God.

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So according to his new video, Trump is not racist. He said this verbatim.

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rai1234 wrote:So according to his new video, Trump is not racist. He said this verbatim.
Maybe he found a picture of Trump smiling at a black man as a child.. :?

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If Trump doesn't qualify as racist in Phil's mind, then what exactly are they raising Trey not to be? It's pretty telling that Phil has no problem dissecting what it means to be racist when someone calls him mayo or when he feels a white person is on the receiving end of it, but can put blinders on with Trump of all people. [tweet][/tweet]

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Old video where Phil talks about his parents being racist and disowning him( @ 0:40 ).
rai1234 wrote:You have got to be kidding me. Again, PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THIS? I'm only like 5 minutes in but what the actual fuck? This is what he wants to fight CNN and other MSM with? You never see TYT pulling any of this. Also, this is such an awful set, audio was bad, terrible logo and song...like wtf. Seriously. I wouldn't be this angry if it's something he was doing and wasn't putting out exclusively to people who are donating and expecting quality news, not this. Should have said this will be a Sourcefed 2.0, not a "news network".
It's confusingly bad! It doesn't make sense to me that there are teenagers putting up vlog videos with better production quality courtesy of their allowance money or whatever. Baby Carter might as well change his name to scapegoat because I predict him being used as one quite a bit over the next year or so to justify certain failings in regards to the network. I also predict Phil's going to throw Dani and Yuck City under the bus and make it seem like he was doing her a favor or something to deflect from the fact that he wasn't able to come up with and execute anything better.

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prettyjay wrote:[youtube]<a class="vglnk" href="[/youtube" rel="nofollow"><span>https</span><span>://</span><span>www</span><span>.</span><span>youtube</span><span>.</span><span>com</span><span>/</span><span>watch</span><span>?</span><span>v</span><span>=</span><span>HECGHmjPiKU</span><span>[/</span><span>youtube</span></a>]

Old video where Phil talks about his parents being racist and disowning him( @ 0:40 ).
rai1234 wrote:You have got to be kidding me. Again, PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THIS? I'm only like 5 minutes in but what the actual fuck? This is what he wants to fight CNN and other MSM with? You never see TYT pulling any of this. Also, this is such an awful set, audio was bad, terrible logo and song...like wtf. Seriously. I wouldn't be this angry if it's something he was doing and wasn't putting out exclusively to people who are donating and expecting quality news, not this. Should have said this will be a Sourcefed 2.0, not a "news network".
It's confusingly bad! It doesn't make sense to me that there are teenagers putting up vlog videos with better production quality courtesy of their allowance money or whatever. Baby Carter might as well change his name to scapegoat because I predict him being used as one quite a bit over the next year or so to justify certain failings in regards to the network. I also predict Phil's going to throw Dani and Yuck City under the bus and make it seem like he was doing her a favor or something to deflect from the fact that he wasn't able to come up with and execute anything better.
Holy crap that video. I expected Lindsay's family to maybe be the racist family, not his. No wonder he was so butthurt when someone called him mayo and threw a fit at MTV's video "Dear White People". They DISOWNED him because he dated a black girl? Wtf.
And totally agree with you about him throwing Dani under the bus if that show or whatever that is doesn't take off. He's done it before to her, nothing is going to stop him from doing it again, just like how he continuously threw sourcefed and everyone there under the bus too.
He's been using the "second baby on the way" excuse since Lindsay was 3 months pregnant. I doubt he's even doing much to prepare, Lindsay is the one doing most of the work it seems. He said he's taking a week off when the baby comes, that's it.

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That "Yuck City" video is laughable. Seriously, laughable.

You'd think people donating would want something informative or educational or polished. Instead they get a group of people bantering back and forth during "a show" when the viewers can already catch all of that on the vlog. Maybe it's just me, I think the days of people being satisfied with a roundtable format are over. Sure, it's cheap to produce and doesn't take any time to prepare, but what a slap in the face to all the donors who are paying for this--especially the ones who say Phil is their only news source.

There's something else that's been on my mind for awhile.

Preface: I am an overweight woman. I'm not meaning to body shame or insinuate a thin woman brings more value than one who carries extra weight. Having said that, I'm about to share an honest thought and question that keeps coming up for me.

Remember, back in the day, when Phil would do a daily feature of a really beautiful sorority girl or find ways to work in stories about porn actresses? Remember when he would show risque selfies female fans sent him ?

I remember, near the beginning of the Defranco Fam vlogs Lyndsey complaining that girls would send him NSW messages to their DeFranco family FB account.

I've noticed that Phil seems to only surround himself with female employees who are overweight and, compared to the women he used to objectify, not overly attractive. I have to wonder if he made a deal with Lyndsey to never hire women he might be sexually attracted to and tempted by.

Of course thin and attractive doesn't automatically mean a woman is going to be a good news commentator (or have anything relevant to add to a roundtable discussion), but let's be real. This is supposed to be a business. Having attractive hosts would bring in the views. People want to tune in to see something extraordinary--either beautiful or charismatic or opinionated or highly intelligent and aware of what's going on. The people Phil seems to hire all seem so average, dispassionate, almost as bitter as he is, and don't have anything interesting or compelling to say.

Okay, sure, you could say, "But that's how MSM has done it for decades. They'd hire some ditzy bleach blonde and never the woman who was 50-100lbs overweight. Phil is just keeping it real." The thing is, I don't buy it. I don't think he's trying to go against the norm. I think his motives are more selfish. I'm just wondering if it's to please his wife or for some other reason.

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Presence wrote:I've noticed that Phil seems to only surround himself with female employees who are overweight and, compared to the women he used to objectify, not overly attractive. I have to wonder if he made a deal with Lyndsey to never hire women he might be sexually attracted to and tempted by.

Of course thin and attractive doesn't automatically mean a woman is going to be a good news commentator (or have anything relevant to add to a roundtable discussion), but let's be real. This is supposed to be a business. Having attractive hosts would bring in the views. People want to tune in to see something extraordinary--either beautiful or charismatic or opinionated or highly intelligent and aware of what's going on. The people Phil seems to hire all seem so average, dispassionate, almost as bitter as he is, and don't have anything interesting or compelling to say.

Okay, sure, you could say, "But that's how MSM has done it for decades. They'd hire some ditzy bleach blonde and never the woman who was 50-100lbs overweight. Phil is just keeping it real." The thing is, I don't buy it. I don't think he's trying to go against the norm. I think his motives are more selfish. I'm just wondering if it's to please his wife or for some other reason.
Oh damn... I've never thought about this.

Part of it could also be because he wouldn't want someone to outshine him in being attractive, smart, aware or passionate. This is basically screaming a high school kid (usually girl) that surrounds themselves with nice people that won't stand up to them and uses them as a means of feeling better about themselves. Therefore, Phil is able to throw them under the bus anytime he wants because they won't say anything. Chances are, some are also fans of Phil.

That's some fucked up shit even for Phil.

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